Episode 3 -Conversations
Jul 1, 2010 18:02:46 GMT -6
Post by Claude on Jul 1, 2010 18:02:46 GMT -6
spies8mary 9:11 am
Hi.
spies8claude 9:14 am
Hello Mary.
spies8mary 9:14 am
Do you have a few minutes to talk?
spies8claude 9:14 am
Of course.
spies8mary 9:15 am
What do you think of the new people who've joined our team?
spies8claude 9:15 am
Eh
Some of them are just kind of there.
spies8mary 9:16 am
So you don't have a read on any.
spies8claude 9:16 am
I wouldn't say that
spies8claude 9:16 am
I've talked to Allan and Nita individually
and I think they're both citizens
I haven't talked to Jenny nor Rondak much(a little, but not much)
spies8mary 9:16 am
I'm leaning strongly in that direction.
Nita's old posts and group chats look solid.
Allan's role being claimed by Jenny is interesting.
spies8claude 9:17 am
I haven't read any of the republican group chats, but I've read most of their forum posts.
spies8mary 9:17 am
Their group chats are very interesting.
spies8claude 9:18 am
I'm not sure what to make of that situation.
spies8mary 9:18 am
I have a problem with the way Jenny approached the Alexei exile.
spies8mary 9:18 am
She seemed to be willfully ignoring questions about Alexei.
spies8claude 9:18 am
How so?
spies8mary 9:19 am
And also disappearing from chat when asked things about Alexei.
spies8claude 9:19 am
Hmm, I'll have to read up on it.
spies8mary 9:19 am
Tina confronted her with Alexei contradictions a few times
And she essentially ignored Tina.
spies8claude 9:19 am
Hmmm
I'm suspicious of Tina
spies8mary 9:20 am
From my notes:
Next day, Tina brings up Alexei and a contradicted quote from a Jenny-Alexei conversation
Jenny freezes and doesn't discuss the contradiction or Alexei until the topic changes to Allan.
Tina points out another contradiction in Alexei's Zed suspicions, Jenny ignored it.
spies8jenny: Well that was special. 22:19
spies8alexei: ok, now let me ask you, and please answer honestly, how many of you think I am spy for sure?
spies8alexei: steph? rondak? jenny? themba? what do you think honestly?
Jenny disappears for a half hour without answering.
spies8mary 9:21 am
Themba asks who she's voting for.
spies8jenny: Just saw your question, sorry. Yeah I'll probably stick with Zeddy for now (sorry Zeddy )
Never comments on Alexei or tries to persuade people to join her, based on evidence from their 1 1/2 hours of talking.
Tina calls Jenny and Alexei out:
spies8tina: You said that during the chat you were following along with the whole thing, but talking with Jenny the entire time so were being quiet.
Jenny admits to talking to Lexi for two 40 minute spans.
spies8claude 9:21 am
I'm finding all of this more suspect on Tina's part.
spies8mary 9:22 am
For not voting Alexei?
Yes, it's weird.
There was so much evidence.
That she was generating.
spies8claude 9:22 am
Especially when she helped start the case on him, and from those posts it looks like she was trying to say Jenny was scum by assocation w/ Alexei
spies8mary 9:22 am
jenny: "When I see Lexi, I'm going to want to talk to him for a bit." 17:17
Jenny very tuned in to who's voting who, seems to be tallying
Sees alexei: "It sounds like you got some 'splainin to do." 20:38
Jenny goes silent for 10 minutes without talking to him.
Alexei gets attacked in chat, Jenny goes silent in chat.
spies8mary 9:23 am
Jenny goes silent for 40 minutes until the end of the chat log
Reappears to say have a good night to hambone once the alexei attacks are over
spies8dane: whoa, you are on jenny?
[21:42] spies8jenny: I've been here.
[21:42] spies8dane: afk or listening?
[21:42] spies8jenny: Just listening.
Comments on Steph's attacks on Dane but not on the massacre of Alexei.
I also don't like that she says she hunts Citizens instead of Spies.
spies8claude 9:25 am
It's kind of a cop out
spies8mary 9:25 am
That's moderately helpful but not the difficult part of this game. It's also easy for Spies to do in an effort to look decent.
spies8claude 9:25 am
But some people really do play that way.
spies8mary 9:26 am
But if that's how she operates
She says she thought Savannah was a Citizen
But never said a word I can find to help save Savannah.
spies8claude 9:26 am
Hmmm
spies8mary 9:26 am
Nor get her to roleclaim to save herself.
You know Savannah had a role, right?
spies8claude 9:26 am
So, one of Tina/Jenny is probably a spy, but probably not both
No, I didn't
spies8mary 9:28 am
They are saying she was The Messenger or something like that.
She claimed after votes were closed and Sam started counting.
spies8claude 9:29 am
That sucks.
spies8mary 9:31 am
What do you think of Magalie?
Oh, first, the rest of the other team.
I reviewed Hambone's posts and group chats.
He made about four cases. One was his own and three look copied from others.
spies8claude 9:33 am
That seems fine.
I've talked to him a bit as well, and nothing he said raised any alarms.
spies8mary 9:33 am
I don't have a problem with him right now. He looks noob and sincere.
spies8mary 9:34 am
Rondak, I have no clue. He seems a little deceptive.
Could just be roleplay.
What do you think of him and Allan?
spies8claude 9:35 am
I like Allan
He's suspicious of all of the same people as me :-P
spies8mary 9:35 am
He's already suspicious of Chance?
spies8claude 9:35 am
Oh
spies8mary 9:35 am
How did that happen so fast?
spies8claude 9:35 am
maybe not Chance
But he did seem to indicate being suspicious of Isaac
spies8mary 9:35 am
Based on what?
He actually reads the opposite side's group chats?
spies8claude 9:36 am
I think so.
spies8mary 9:36 am
I'll have to ask him about that.
If he claimed his role to escape an exile I'd have more of a problem with him right now.
But I don't really see a spy playing it the way he did. Unless he and Jenny are both Spies.
And he actually told Nita as well after a week.
spies8mary 9:38 am
Ok, so back to Magalie.
I'm thinking there are very few downsides to voting her.
spies8mary 9:40 am
I think I lost you.
spies8claude 9:41 am
I'm still here sorry
Just doing other stuff also.
spies8mary 9:41 am
It's ok.
spies8claude 9:42 am
I agree about Magalie
I just hate lynching someoen in these circumstances.
spies8mary 9:42 am
I want to exile Magalie for several reasons.
spies8mary 9:42 am
She's lied about her suspicions.
spies8claude 9:42 am
What do you mean
spies8mary 9:42 am
The game doesn't work with someone like that.
She said she suspected Gertrude.
Then she said she had actually lied about that and just said that to get everyone off her back.
Because she hadn't actually taken the time to develop suspicions or something.
spies8claude 9:43 am
It's hard to see a Spy lying there and then just admitting to it.
spies8mary 9:44 am
I know.
Her Margot suspicions look completely flat.
spies8claude 9:44 am
It seems like she's really just not participating
not being on, just bandwagon voting, etc
spies8mary 9:45 am
If there's a better candidate for exile, a really good one, then I could see waiting a day on Magalie.
spies8claude 9:46 am
I stll like Chance best for that, of course. I'm also fairly suspicious of Gertrude now.
spies8mary 9:53 am
Sorry, also busy here at the hospital.
spies8mary 10:19 am
Gertrude's votes and vote switches have been logically well explained.
She says she switched from Margot to Camilla to "make a difference".
That makes sense.
spies8claude 10:21 am
I could accept that.
And I do, I suppose.
spies8mary 10:21 am
Then she went back to Margot.
spies8claude 10:21 am
But she says that she was 'torn' between whether to vote for Margot or Magalie on Day 2.
spies8mary 10:21 am
When Margot arrived the afternoon of exile, she was unimpressive.
Yeah I talked to her a bit to see if she was really considering alternatives.
spies8claude 10:22 am
And then at the start of Day 3, she just apparently completely forgot about being suspicious of Magalie. Or at least, when I asked her about it, the first person she mentioned was Rondak.
spies8mary 10:22 am
Really?
spies8claude 10:22 am
Yeah
spies8mary 10:22 am
Hold on, let me check my log from exile day.
spies8claude 10:22 am
I did ask her if she was suspicious of anyone else, and she said she was going to answer(I waited about 10 minutes and then moved on)
This is at the start of Day 3.
spies8mary 10:22 am
Yes, but I want to see how much she suspected Magalie.
And if dropping her is a big shift.
spies8claude 10:23 am
I also am dubious that she really was torn between voting them
She had genuine reasons for voting Margot
But her reasons for 'thinking about' voting Magalie were 'she could be a detriment'
spies8claude 10:24 am
There shouldn't be any real tough decision there. Margot bandwagon voted the asme person as Gert, and accused Gert of being scum because of it.
spies8mary 10:24 am
spies8gertrude: I am torn between those three suspects, as well.
spies8mary: Really?
spies8mary: What's your reasoning?
I listed Magalie, Isaac and Margot.
spies8claude 10:25 am
She never said anything about Isaac
spies8mary 10:25 am
Then the topic switches to you and Chance for 20 minutes.
spies8claude 10:25 am
I suppose I can't blame her too much for that, since he was moved to the other team by the time I asked her about it.
spies8mary 10:26 am
spies8mary: More importantly, though, tonight's vote.
spies8mary: One more hour to decide.
spies8gertrude: Yes, sorry.
spies8claude 10:26 am
I felt like she really overreacted to what was clearly minor suspicion on my part(towards her)
spies8mary 10:26 am
spies8gertrude: I'm not sure if what you have on Isaac is enough for an Exile.
spies8mary: What do you think of Margot? And about the way her wagon has played out?
spies8gertrude: I think I'd rather go with Magalie.
spies8gertrude: I don't know what I think of Margot. I think she's inexperienced, for sure, but at the same time, I think she's more productive than Magalie.
spies8mary: But I don't get a sense of conviction from him.
spies8gertrude: Actually, I have today.
That's about Isaac.
spies8claude 10:28 am
Fascniating
spies8claude 10:28 am
I've never gotten a sense of conviction from Isaac
spies8mary 10:28 am
Me neither.
spies8gertrude: Voting Magalie seems to be the most logical decision.
spies8gertrude: But I still think it's probable that she's just a useless citizen.
I asked her where Isaac showed conviction.
spies8isaac: Excuse me Jasmine my vote isn't being "thrown away" the fact that you don't buy the argument for now is fine but my vote was there for What I thought were all the right reasons last night and tonight is the same story. I believe I'm voting the person most suspect of being a spy.
spies8gertrude: Yes. And her most recent thought intrigues me.
spies8mary: That Claude might be protecting Margot?
spies8gertrude: Yes.
spies8gertrude: It's interesting, becuase it looks like the bandwagon came off of Margot as fast as it came on.
spies8claude 10:31 am
That post by Isaac actually does read as genuine, somewhat. But I think it's something that could be said as a Spy.
spies8mary is available 5:52 pm
spies8claude 6:24 pm
I can't make sense of what she is saying at all.
spies8mary 6:24 pm
Sam appears to have found a functional illiterate to play his game.
spies8claude 6:24 pm
haha
She takes so long to answer anything
I feel like she's being coached.
spies8mary 6:25 pm
Possible.
She doesn't seem to understand the concepts she's talking about.
spies8claude 6:26 pm
I know, that's what I mean.
spies8mary 6:26 pm
She can't express a suspicion.
Or her motivation in the game.
Or her thoughts on your thought process.
spies8claude 6:26 pm
or anything.
spies8mary 6:26 pm
Chance and Jenny are talking.
I was talking with Gertrude.
spies8claude 6:27 pm
Okay.
spies8mary 6:27 pm
Cory's been quiet for a while.
spies8mary 6:40 pm
Decent working theory would be that someone fed her Gertrude suspicions which she couldn't explain or back up.
And now she's been fed Claude suspicions that she can't explain or back up.
spies8claude 6:40 pm
Yeah
spies8mary is available 1:22 pm
spies8mary 2:27 pm
Are you there?
spies8claude 2:27 pm
I am always here when you need me, Mary.
spies8mary 2:27 pm
It seems like Chance is searching for evidence to fit his conclusions.
spies8claude 2:27 pm
Yes.
That is, in my estimation, exactly what he is doing.
spies8mary 2:28 pm
He claimed to find Magalie suspicious/bad based on the group chat last night.
But didn't include her in his list of 6 spies.
But is going to vote her.
And when I ask why he has to go look for evidence.
spies8claude 2:30 pm
Yeah.
Well, according to him, he didn't figure that out about Magalie until after he posted that list.
spies8mary 2:31 pm
Ok.
spies8claude 2:31 pm
Which I guess COULD be true
But it's just another example of Chance's stories working out as conveniently as possible for him
spies8mary 2:32 pm
Chance was there last night.
I think he left near the start of it.
Hold on.
I also noticed earlier today that he left during the fallout in Episode 1 group chat.
When you grilled me about inaccurate statements Chance had made.
spies8claude 2:34 pm
Yeah
spies8mary 2:35 pm
spies8chance: ...you don't suspect anyone else even a little?spies8magalie: even a little...
spies8chance: ...
spies8claude 2:35 pm
That really bugged me
spies8mary 2:35 pm
spies8chance: i'm heading out for the night, guys. i still feel pretty cruddy. i'll be on tomorrow afternoon, though.
He was there for the first half of it.
spies8claude 2:44 pm
Awww
You didn't say Chance :-(
He's probably bussing Magalie anyway
so, meh.
spies8mary 2:45 pm
I am considering a switch, but Magalie is the only person who's outright lied about their suspicions.
And continues to.
spies8mary 2:46 pm
She's either a spy or a Citizen who has the potential to wreck this game.
spies8claude 2:47 pm
I honestly think that she's harmless
But could simply be a Spy
spies8mary 2:48 pm
I guess if she's a Cit she could be a tool to draw out Spies.
See who pushes her repeatedly.
But I'm at least mildly supporting her exile and I don't think it's wrong to.
spies8claude 2:50 pm
I agree.
spies8Nita 9:17 pm
In this challenge I have cut up a poem into pieces and placed them in your confessional. Take the pieces from your confessional and share them here. There are no instructions other than the poem.
You makin sure people do this?
Tell everyone es haste
Everyone, si?
spies8claude 9:42 pm
Why did you tell me, and not just the group chat?
spies8Nita 9:44 pm
I tell everyone
spies8Nita 9:44 pm
Y askin you to tell the people who an't payin attention to the chat
spies8claude 9:44 pm
Oh I see.
Okay.
spies8Nita 10:30 pm
You think things go okay o got ideas for what can be done better?
spies8claude 10:30 pm
I think things will naturally go a little better next time
spies8Nita 10:31 pm
Si, we learnin
spies8claude 10:31 pm
Yeah exactly
spies8claude 10:31 pm
Having a constant 15 minute penalty b ecause we lost the first challenge is discouraging to me, though.
I feel like it should only be 5 minutes now, because that is what they won by.
spies8Nita 10:32 pm
Really we win by 10
But 3 15 minute penalties, that add up fast
You right
spies8Nita is available 6:58 pm
spies8Nita 8:47 pm
We talk
spies8claude 8:47 pm
Alright.
spies8Nita 8:47 pm
You sayin you for or against no exile in this special case? I ain't sure where you stood
spies8claude 8:48 pm
I suggested it in the first place..or at least tried to.
I am for it in this unique circumstance
But that's probably because I feel like Spies are running the Republican side, especially now that you're on this side.
spies8Nita 8:50 pm
Why you say that?
Because of the Savannah exile?
Cept you guys exile 2 citizens en a row
spies8claude 8:50 pm
Yeah I know
spies8Nita 8:50 pm
these spies gotta be somewhere here too, si?
spies8claude 8:51 pm
But that's because everyone on this side just doesn't want to ever take action.
spies8Nita 8:52 pm
That a problem on this side?
spies8claude 8:52 pm
Plus like, I am legitimately only suspicious of a couple of people on this side.
Most people over here seem overwhelmingly townie.
Yeah, I meant on this side.
I'm really happy that you're here now, you provide action and seem extremely trustworthy.
spies8Nita 8:53 pm
Gracias Claude. That's a nice thing to say
spies8Nita 8:54 pm
Part of me, si, it want to say "sure let's nominate Magalie, she suspicious bout Gertrude, she lyin bout things y makin terrible suspects, ain't playin the game"
But she kind of an easy target, no?
spies8claude 8:55 pm
Her behavior during the challenge really bugs me
I find it very hard to believe that it took her 2 hours to reboot.
And that she 'had' to give up the computer during the final challenge.
spies8Nita 8:55 pm
Si. She no do nothin
She no do nothin to find the spies
y she only postin bout sex y stuff
spies8claude 8:56 pm
right
This has been brought to her attention before, but she's just made excuses.
At the start of today(the game day, not Tuesday), she assured me that it is 'game on' now
spies8claude 8:56 pm
But I'm really not seeing it
spies8Nita 8:57 pm
No, she ain't doin nothin
Only things I see out of her this round
I tell her bout my suspicions on Stephanie y she name Stephanie
as her top suspect
Then I post she do that
So she name me as her top
spies8claude 8:59 pm
lol
spies8Nita 9:03 pm
If no exile no become an option, who you think you gonna nominate?
spies8claude 9:03 pm
Chance..
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Hi.
spies8claude 9:14 am
Hello Mary.
spies8mary 9:14 am
Do you have a few minutes to talk?
spies8claude 9:14 am
Of course.
spies8mary 9:15 am
What do you think of the new people who've joined our team?
spies8claude 9:15 am
Eh
Some of them are just kind of there.
spies8mary 9:16 am
So you don't have a read on any.
spies8claude 9:16 am
I wouldn't say that
spies8claude 9:16 am
I've talked to Allan and Nita individually
and I think they're both citizens
I haven't talked to Jenny nor Rondak much(a little, but not much)
spies8mary 9:16 am
I'm leaning strongly in that direction.
Nita's old posts and group chats look solid.
Allan's role being claimed by Jenny is interesting.
spies8claude 9:17 am
I haven't read any of the republican group chats, but I've read most of their forum posts.
spies8mary 9:17 am
Their group chats are very interesting.
spies8claude 9:18 am
I'm not sure what to make of that situation.
spies8mary 9:18 am
I have a problem with the way Jenny approached the Alexei exile.
spies8mary 9:18 am
She seemed to be willfully ignoring questions about Alexei.
spies8claude 9:18 am
How so?
spies8mary 9:19 am
And also disappearing from chat when asked things about Alexei.
spies8claude 9:19 am
Hmm, I'll have to read up on it.
spies8mary 9:19 am
Tina confronted her with Alexei contradictions a few times
And she essentially ignored Tina.
spies8claude 9:19 am
Hmmm
I'm suspicious of Tina
spies8mary 9:20 am
From my notes:
Next day, Tina brings up Alexei and a contradicted quote from a Jenny-Alexei conversation
Jenny freezes and doesn't discuss the contradiction or Alexei until the topic changes to Allan.
Tina points out another contradiction in Alexei's Zed suspicions, Jenny ignored it.
spies8jenny: Well that was special. 22:19
spies8alexei: ok, now let me ask you, and please answer honestly, how many of you think I am spy for sure?
spies8alexei: steph? rondak? jenny? themba? what do you think honestly?
Jenny disappears for a half hour without answering.
spies8mary 9:21 am
Themba asks who she's voting for.
spies8jenny: Just saw your question, sorry. Yeah I'll probably stick with Zeddy for now (sorry Zeddy )
Never comments on Alexei or tries to persuade people to join her, based on evidence from their 1 1/2 hours of talking.
Tina calls Jenny and Alexei out:
spies8tina: You said that during the chat you were following along with the whole thing, but talking with Jenny the entire time so were being quiet.
Jenny admits to talking to Lexi for two 40 minute spans.
spies8claude 9:21 am
I'm finding all of this more suspect on Tina's part.
spies8mary 9:22 am
For not voting Alexei?
Yes, it's weird.
There was so much evidence.
That she was generating.
spies8claude 9:22 am
Especially when she helped start the case on him, and from those posts it looks like she was trying to say Jenny was scum by assocation w/ Alexei
spies8mary 9:22 am
jenny: "When I see Lexi, I'm going to want to talk to him for a bit." 17:17
Jenny very tuned in to who's voting who, seems to be tallying
Sees alexei: "It sounds like you got some 'splainin to do." 20:38
Jenny goes silent for 10 minutes without talking to him.
Alexei gets attacked in chat, Jenny goes silent in chat.
spies8mary 9:23 am
Jenny goes silent for 40 minutes until the end of the chat log
Reappears to say have a good night to hambone once the alexei attacks are over
spies8dane: whoa, you are on jenny?
[21:42] spies8jenny: I've been here.
[21:42] spies8dane: afk or listening?
[21:42] spies8jenny: Just listening.
Comments on Steph's attacks on Dane but not on the massacre of Alexei.
I also don't like that she says she hunts Citizens instead of Spies.
spies8claude 9:25 am
It's kind of a cop out
spies8mary 9:25 am
That's moderately helpful but not the difficult part of this game. It's also easy for Spies to do in an effort to look decent.
spies8claude 9:25 am
But some people really do play that way.
spies8mary 9:26 am
But if that's how she operates
She says she thought Savannah was a Citizen
But never said a word I can find to help save Savannah.
spies8claude 9:26 am
Hmmm
spies8mary 9:26 am
Nor get her to roleclaim to save herself.
You know Savannah had a role, right?
spies8claude 9:26 am
So, one of Tina/Jenny is probably a spy, but probably not both
No, I didn't
spies8mary 9:28 am
They are saying she was The Messenger or something like that.
She claimed after votes were closed and Sam started counting.
spies8claude 9:29 am
That sucks.
spies8mary 9:31 am
What do you think of Magalie?
Oh, first, the rest of the other team.
I reviewed Hambone's posts and group chats.
He made about four cases. One was his own and three look copied from others.
spies8claude 9:33 am
That seems fine.
I've talked to him a bit as well, and nothing he said raised any alarms.
spies8mary 9:33 am
I don't have a problem with him right now. He looks noob and sincere.
spies8mary 9:34 am
Rondak, I have no clue. He seems a little deceptive.
Could just be roleplay.
What do you think of him and Allan?
spies8claude 9:35 am
I like Allan
He's suspicious of all of the same people as me :-P
spies8mary 9:35 am
He's already suspicious of Chance?
spies8claude 9:35 am
Oh
spies8mary 9:35 am
How did that happen so fast?
spies8claude 9:35 am
maybe not Chance
But he did seem to indicate being suspicious of Isaac
spies8mary 9:35 am
Based on what?
He actually reads the opposite side's group chats?
spies8claude 9:36 am
I think so.
spies8mary 9:36 am
I'll have to ask him about that.
If he claimed his role to escape an exile I'd have more of a problem with him right now.
But I don't really see a spy playing it the way he did. Unless he and Jenny are both Spies.
And he actually told Nita as well after a week.
spies8mary 9:38 am
Ok, so back to Magalie.
I'm thinking there are very few downsides to voting her.
spies8mary 9:40 am
I think I lost you.
spies8claude 9:41 am
I'm still here sorry
Just doing other stuff also.
spies8mary 9:41 am
It's ok.
spies8claude 9:42 am
I agree about Magalie
I just hate lynching someoen in these circumstances.
spies8mary 9:42 am
I want to exile Magalie for several reasons.
spies8mary 9:42 am
She's lied about her suspicions.
spies8claude 9:42 am
What do you mean
spies8mary 9:42 am
The game doesn't work with someone like that.
She said she suspected Gertrude.
Then she said she had actually lied about that and just said that to get everyone off her back.
Because she hadn't actually taken the time to develop suspicions or something.
spies8claude 9:43 am
It's hard to see a Spy lying there and then just admitting to it.
spies8mary 9:44 am
I know.
Her Margot suspicions look completely flat.
spies8claude 9:44 am
It seems like she's really just not participating
not being on, just bandwagon voting, etc
spies8mary 9:45 am
If there's a better candidate for exile, a really good one, then I could see waiting a day on Magalie.
spies8claude 9:46 am
I stll like Chance best for that, of course. I'm also fairly suspicious of Gertrude now.
spies8mary 9:53 am
Sorry, also busy here at the hospital.
spies8mary 10:19 am
Gertrude's votes and vote switches have been logically well explained.
She says she switched from Margot to Camilla to "make a difference".
That makes sense.
spies8claude 10:21 am
I could accept that.
And I do, I suppose.
spies8mary 10:21 am
Then she went back to Margot.
spies8claude 10:21 am
But she says that she was 'torn' between whether to vote for Margot or Magalie on Day 2.
spies8mary 10:21 am
When Margot arrived the afternoon of exile, she was unimpressive.
Yeah I talked to her a bit to see if she was really considering alternatives.
spies8claude 10:22 am
And then at the start of Day 3, she just apparently completely forgot about being suspicious of Magalie. Or at least, when I asked her about it, the first person she mentioned was Rondak.
spies8mary 10:22 am
Really?
spies8claude 10:22 am
Yeah
spies8mary 10:22 am
Hold on, let me check my log from exile day.
spies8claude 10:22 am
I did ask her if she was suspicious of anyone else, and she said she was going to answer(I waited about 10 minutes and then moved on)
This is at the start of Day 3.
spies8mary 10:22 am
Yes, but I want to see how much she suspected Magalie.
And if dropping her is a big shift.
spies8claude 10:23 am
I also am dubious that she really was torn between voting them
She had genuine reasons for voting Margot
But her reasons for 'thinking about' voting Magalie were 'she could be a detriment'
spies8claude 10:24 am
There shouldn't be any real tough decision there. Margot bandwagon voted the asme person as Gert, and accused Gert of being scum because of it.
spies8mary 10:24 am
spies8gertrude: I am torn between those three suspects, as well.
spies8mary: Really?
spies8mary: What's your reasoning?
I listed Magalie, Isaac and Margot.
spies8claude 10:25 am
She never said anything about Isaac
spies8mary 10:25 am
Then the topic switches to you and Chance for 20 minutes.
spies8claude 10:25 am
I suppose I can't blame her too much for that, since he was moved to the other team by the time I asked her about it.
spies8mary 10:26 am
spies8mary: More importantly, though, tonight's vote.
spies8mary: One more hour to decide.
spies8gertrude: Yes, sorry.
spies8claude 10:26 am
I felt like she really overreacted to what was clearly minor suspicion on my part(towards her)
spies8mary 10:26 am
spies8gertrude: I'm not sure if what you have on Isaac is enough for an Exile.
spies8mary: What do you think of Margot? And about the way her wagon has played out?
spies8gertrude: I think I'd rather go with Magalie.
spies8gertrude: I don't know what I think of Margot. I think she's inexperienced, for sure, but at the same time, I think she's more productive than Magalie.
spies8mary: But I don't get a sense of conviction from him.
spies8gertrude: Actually, I have today.
That's about Isaac.
spies8claude 10:28 am
Fascniating
spies8claude 10:28 am
I've never gotten a sense of conviction from Isaac
spies8mary 10:28 am
Me neither.
spies8gertrude: Voting Magalie seems to be the most logical decision.
spies8gertrude: But I still think it's probable that she's just a useless citizen.
I asked her where Isaac showed conviction.
spies8isaac: Excuse me Jasmine my vote isn't being "thrown away" the fact that you don't buy the argument for now is fine but my vote was there for What I thought were all the right reasons last night and tonight is the same story. I believe I'm voting the person most suspect of being a spy.
spies8gertrude: Yes. And her most recent thought intrigues me.
spies8mary: That Claude might be protecting Margot?
spies8gertrude: Yes.
spies8gertrude: It's interesting, becuase it looks like the bandwagon came off of Margot as fast as it came on.
spies8claude 10:31 am
That post by Isaac actually does read as genuine, somewhat. But I think it's something that could be said as a Spy.
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spies8claude 6:24 pm
I can't make sense of what she is saying at all.
spies8mary 6:24 pm
Sam appears to have found a functional illiterate to play his game.
spies8claude 6:24 pm
haha
She takes so long to answer anything
I feel like she's being coached.
spies8mary 6:25 pm
Possible.
She doesn't seem to understand the concepts she's talking about.
spies8claude 6:26 pm
I know, that's what I mean.
spies8mary 6:26 pm
She can't express a suspicion.
Or her motivation in the game.
Or her thoughts on your thought process.
spies8claude 6:26 pm
or anything.
spies8mary 6:26 pm
Chance and Jenny are talking.
I was talking with Gertrude.
spies8claude 6:27 pm
Okay.
spies8mary 6:27 pm
Cory's been quiet for a while.
spies8mary 6:40 pm
Decent working theory would be that someone fed her Gertrude suspicions which she couldn't explain or back up.
And now she's been fed Claude suspicions that she can't explain or back up.
spies8claude 6:40 pm
Yeah
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spies8mary 2:27 pm
Are you there?
spies8claude 2:27 pm
I am always here when you need me, Mary.
spies8mary 2:27 pm
It seems like Chance is searching for evidence to fit his conclusions.
spies8claude 2:27 pm
Yes.
That is, in my estimation, exactly what he is doing.
spies8mary 2:28 pm
He claimed to find Magalie suspicious/bad based on the group chat last night.
But didn't include her in his list of 6 spies.
But is going to vote her.
And when I ask why he has to go look for evidence.
spies8claude 2:30 pm
Yeah.
Well, according to him, he didn't figure that out about Magalie until after he posted that list.
spies8mary 2:31 pm
Ok.
spies8claude 2:31 pm
Which I guess COULD be true
But it's just another example of Chance's stories working out as conveniently as possible for him
spies8mary 2:32 pm
Chance was there last night.
I think he left near the start of it.
Hold on.
I also noticed earlier today that he left during the fallout in Episode 1 group chat.
When you grilled me about inaccurate statements Chance had made.
spies8claude 2:34 pm
Yeah
spies8mary 2:35 pm
spies8chance: ...you don't suspect anyone else even a little?spies8magalie: even a little...
spies8chance: ...
spies8claude 2:35 pm
That really bugged me
spies8mary 2:35 pm
spies8chance: i'm heading out for the night, guys. i still feel pretty cruddy. i'll be on tomorrow afternoon, though.
He was there for the first half of it.
spies8claude 2:44 pm
Awww
You didn't say Chance :-(
He's probably bussing Magalie anyway
so, meh.
spies8mary 2:45 pm
I am considering a switch, but Magalie is the only person who's outright lied about their suspicions.
And continues to.
spies8mary 2:46 pm
She's either a spy or a Citizen who has the potential to wreck this game.
spies8claude 2:47 pm
I honestly think that she's harmless
But could simply be a Spy
spies8mary 2:48 pm
I guess if she's a Cit she could be a tool to draw out Spies.
See who pushes her repeatedly.
But I'm at least mildly supporting her exile and I don't think it's wrong to.
spies8claude 2:50 pm
I agree.
spies8Nita 9:17 pm
In this challenge I have cut up a poem into pieces and placed them in your confessional. Take the pieces from your confessional and share them here. There are no instructions other than the poem.
You makin sure people do this?
Tell everyone es haste
Everyone, si?
spies8claude 9:42 pm
Why did you tell me, and not just the group chat?
spies8Nita 9:44 pm
I tell everyone
spies8Nita 9:44 pm
Y askin you to tell the people who an't payin attention to the chat
spies8claude 9:44 pm
Oh I see.
Okay.
spies8Nita 10:30 pm
You think things go okay o got ideas for what can be done better?
spies8claude 10:30 pm
I think things will naturally go a little better next time
spies8Nita 10:31 pm
Si, we learnin
spies8claude 10:31 pm
Yeah exactly
spies8claude 10:31 pm
Having a constant 15 minute penalty b ecause we lost the first challenge is discouraging to me, though.
I feel like it should only be 5 minutes now, because that is what they won by.
spies8Nita 10:32 pm
Really we win by 10
But 3 15 minute penalties, that add up fast
You right
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spies8Nita 8:47 pm
We talk
spies8claude 8:47 pm
Alright.
spies8Nita 8:47 pm
You sayin you for or against no exile in this special case? I ain't sure where you stood
spies8claude 8:48 pm
I suggested it in the first place..or at least tried to.
I am for it in this unique circumstance
But that's probably because I feel like Spies are running the Republican side, especially now that you're on this side.
spies8Nita 8:50 pm
Why you say that?
Because of the Savannah exile?
Cept you guys exile 2 citizens en a row
spies8claude 8:50 pm
Yeah I know
spies8Nita 8:50 pm
these spies gotta be somewhere here too, si?
spies8claude 8:51 pm
But that's because everyone on this side just doesn't want to ever take action.
spies8Nita 8:52 pm
That a problem on this side?
spies8claude 8:52 pm
Plus like, I am legitimately only suspicious of a couple of people on this side.
Most people over here seem overwhelmingly townie.
Yeah, I meant on this side.
I'm really happy that you're here now, you provide action and seem extremely trustworthy.
spies8Nita 8:53 pm
Gracias Claude. That's a nice thing to say
spies8Nita 8:54 pm
Part of me, si, it want to say "sure let's nominate Magalie, she suspicious bout Gertrude, she lyin bout things y makin terrible suspects, ain't playin the game"
But she kind of an easy target, no?
spies8claude 8:55 pm
Her behavior during the challenge really bugs me
I find it very hard to believe that it took her 2 hours to reboot.
And that she 'had' to give up the computer during the final challenge.
spies8Nita 8:55 pm
Si. She no do nothin
She no do nothin to find the spies
y she only postin bout sex y stuff
spies8claude 8:56 pm
right
This has been brought to her attention before, but she's just made excuses.
At the start of today(the game day, not Tuesday), she assured me that it is 'game on' now
spies8claude 8:56 pm
But I'm really not seeing it
spies8Nita 8:57 pm
No, she ain't doin nothin
Only things I see out of her this round
I tell her bout my suspicions on Stephanie y she name Stephanie
as her top suspect
Then I post she do that
So she name me as her top
spies8claude 8:59 pm
lol
spies8Nita 9:03 pm
If no exile no become an option, who you think you gonna nominate?
spies8claude 9:03 pm
Chance..
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