Episode 2: Bandwagoners DeUnite

[Broderick]

Tomorrow and Wednesday are going to be rather sucktacular days. I have to be physically at work for twelve hours each day. That does not include driving time. Plgggh.


Yesterday, twenty six minutes before Exile I FYI'd our group chat that I was FoSing Gertie, Margot, and Jasmine - all for banwagon votes. One could argue that Jasmine's was the least bandwagonesque due to not that many people actually 'voting for' him at the time she 'publically announced hers'. However Chance had been talked about by many people. If not a true bandwagon vote, she was still hopping on the Chance train. Given that she was deciding between Chance and Claude only.

Jasmine was in the group chat when I FYI'd them. Time went by, When Exile started she called it out as stupid for waiting five minutes before Exile to bring up these FoS'. She also definitely went off on me for no reason, saying I had been in the chat all fucking day long. I pointed out to her that no, I had not been. Jasmine said they had been looking for me, Chance agreed. I skimmed over the chat that I missed - I don't recall seeing once a 'where is Broderick?'. Lie much?

I asked her why she didn't bring up it being stupid when I FYI'd the chat room, and she said 'because I just now thought it was stupid?'. I essentially pointed out that she was contradicting herself, and she was like 'not really?'

1. I think her actions towards the FoS are pretty damn shady. I think perhaps someone in a private IM was talking about it to her, and she then decided it was stupid because they did.

It is a freaking FoS, not a vote.

2. She absolutely overreacted to the FoS. SHADE to the Y.




I find it surprising that someone figured Gertie out and actually accused her. However it does make me rethink my own playing style. Perhaps become just a bit paranoid that it is too much like Andreas. I will think on it, and figure out how to be subtle about tweaking it a bit.

On one hand I don't feel like putting too much effort into the game before the Imprisonment, because I have a feeling I am a good choice for it.

[Broderick]

Democrats:

Awohali
Broderick
Camilla
Chance
Cinnamyn
Claude
Cory
Gertrude
Isaac
Jasmine
Lawrence
Lilith
Magalie
Margot
Mary

[Broderick]

In all honesty I wasn't that bummed to see a citizen go. Perhaps because I was extremely tired. It definitely gives information - even if a spy would've been a better scenario!

[Broderick]

Sunday, June 20, 2010
spies8broderick (16:40:21): Hi Claude.
spies8broderick (17:37:3): We are such a quiet group.
spies8jasmine (17:39:4): hey everyone.
Spies8Awohali (17:39:6): Hello, Jasmine
Spies8Awohali (17:39:18): And Broderick, also
spies8broderick (17:39:28): Hi Jasmine
Spies8Awohali (17:39:52): I was talking to Chance about his Claude suspicion, trying to make as much sense o it as possible..
spies8broderick (17:41:22): I will be back in a little bit
spies8jasmine (17:41:29): What are you thinking Awohali?

spies8broderick (19:37:29): For the record. I am FoSing Jasmine, Gertie, and Margot.
Spies8Awohali (19:37:54): Is there a reason for this, Broderick?
spies8cinnamyn (19:38:15): sory yall im watchin' da tv until exile startz
spies8broderick (19:38:43): All three votes appear to be hopping on the bandwagon. Gertie and Margot both supplied similar reasons 'I agree with what has been said".
spies8broderick (19:38:55): I am finishing up the post right now for the Suspicions thread.
spies8jasmine (19:39:13): I was the first to vote for Chance, so i didn't really agree with any of the above votes. But thats fine.
Spies8Awohali (19:39:19): I look forward to reading it.
spies8broderick (19:39:49): I have not given my reasons for you yet Jasmine.
spies8jasmine (19:39:55): Ah okay.

She acknowledged my FoS.

spies8jasmine (19:41:37): bandwagon?
spies8jasmine (19:42:19): Wouldn't other people have to have been voting for Chance for it to be a bandwagon, or no?

spies8gertrude (19:58:31): Hey guys, I'd like to respond to Broderick's FoS of me in the suspicion thread.
spies8gertrude (19:58:47): This is what he said:
spies8gertrude (19:58:49): Margot and Gertie - Both of your votes are rather bandwagonesque. Have either of you spoken to Camilla directly in an attempt to hear from her? I assume not as you both said something similar to 'I agree with the things said about her.'
spies8gertrude (19:59:7): While it may seem I bandwagoned on the vote for Camilla, that's not actually the case.
spies8jasmine (19:59:10): Where is this post?
spies8chance (19:59:18): in the suspicion thread.
spies8gertrude (19:59:23): Colloquially, I suspected Camilla before it was cool to suspect Camilla.

Gertie explains her vote. Jasmine asks where the post is, even though I said I was finishing up the post for the Suspicions Thread after I FYI'd my FoS'. Jasmine merely wasn't paying attention or what?

spies8broderick (20:00:16): I have not been in this chat 'all fucking day' Jasmine

spies8broderick (20:00:27): I told you when I posted it and where I posted it, Jasmine.

spies8jasmine (20:00:38): No brod u have been in here the entire fucking day
spies8jasmine (20:00:44): just a mute.
spies8jasmine (20:00:45):
spies8broderick (20:00:48): No I have not.
spies8jasmine (20:00:49): k i found the post
spies8jasmine (20:00:57): yes u have? since ive been online anyways.

spies8jasmine (20:01:3): We were wondering where u were for like the entire time.
spies8chance (20:01:9): i can verify that.

One. You were not wondering why I was the entire time. I went and looked through the chat. Chance asked what I was thinking and Claude made a statement that he didn't even know I was in the chat room. You however had not made a single comment regarding it. So your statements are absolutely false. Unless you made it privately, in which case..

spies8jasmine (20:01:50): i just found out stupid that you wait till the last minute to bring shit up at the end, you could at least have the decency to bring it up with more time to explain or at least consider wat your saying.
spies8jasmine (20:01:57): find it*
spies8broderick (20:02:16): I joined this chat room about two minutes before you did. Then I said 'I will be back in a little bit'
spies8mary (20:02:30): I feel queasy.
spies8jasmine (20:02:42): okay, thats fine. Just saying I find it odd and dumb that you would wait this long.
spies8broderick (20:02:49): Wait this long?
spies8jasmine (20:02:56): 5 minutes before exile
spies8jasmine (20:02:57): yes
spies8jasmine (20:03:2): or lynch
spies8jasmine (20:03:6): or watever
spies8jasmine (20:03:6): lol
spies8broderick (20:03:43): I said in this chat about the FoS 26 minutes ago Jasmine. Not five
spies8broderick (20:04:0): you have been in this chat
spies8jasmine (20:04:12): ya but you posted it only 20 minutes ago
spies8jasmine (20:04:19): it's watever, i just found it stupid.
spies8broderick (20:04:34): Why not say that orginially?
spies8jasmine (20:04:43): say what originally?
spies8broderick (20:04:55): That is was stupid?
spies8broderick (20:05:6): Why wait until now to say it?
spies8jasmine (20:05:7): cause i didnt think it was stupid till now? idk?
spies8broderick (20:05:25): What changed your opinion?
spies8jasmine (20:05:37): why r u questioning me thinking it was stupid. i feel like shooting myself now.
spies8jasmine (20:05:48): nothing changed my opinion?
spies8jasmine (20:05:51): it was always stupid?
spies8broderick (20:06:3): cause i didnt think it was stupid till now? idk?
spies8broderick (20:06:11): You are contradicting yourself Jasmine
spies8jasmine (20:06:21): Not really?

The only thing I was wrong about was saying that I joined the chat about two minutes before her. Actually I think I did. I recall joining it previously and no one was talking. I can't recall if I left the room because no one said anything. But I do recall looking back up and seeing that I joined two minutes before she did. So no I doubt I am wrong about that.

Her reaction is absolutely ridiculous and a complete overreaction. Considering that she acknowledged my FoS. I told her where I posted it, so she didn't need to "find" it. Her delayed reaction to the FoS'.. SCUMMY.

[Broderick]

Chance tried to make additional points about Claude to both Awohali and myself before exile. It was probably an hour+ before Exile occurred. I know this because Awohali mentioned it, and I confirmed that he was doing the same to me. However I told Chance that I would not be voting for Claude, so..

[Broderick]

Gertie - What about Camilla's posts turned your gut? Why did you switch to Camilla when you did?

[Broderick]

Courtesy of Mary:
spies8margot: i'm just concerned that if we're in a conversation with him in the chat, that claude will just start a witch hunt against us and say
spies8margot: you're a spy
spies8margot: with no reason behind it
spies8margot: and even though you defend yourself, it's considered "spy-ish"

Margot: Who do you mean by 'us'?

[Broderick]

If I ordered the Democrats:

Suspicious:
Chance
Jasmine
Gertrude
Margot
Isaac
Lawrence
Lilith
Magalie
Mary
Claude
Cory
Cinnamyn
Awohali
Not Suspicious

Lilith is in the dead center because she hasn't been here and therefore I can not get a read on her.

Magalie I think really goes above Lilith, because I definitely find her more suspicious than the no-read Lilith.

Chance, Jasmine, Gertie, and Margot are people I want to definitely examine this episode. The rest are not to be left out. As the more information possible, the better. It comes down to the processing of that information which is the task.

[Judge Sam]

Ugh 12 hours at work. =/ ouch.


Thanks for the FoS drama summary I enjoyed reading it. :-)

[Broderick]

Yeah. I wouldn't mind if it was straight twelve hours of actually doing stuff.
But forthe next four hours I essentially have to sit here and wait for people to show up. Their ETA's are... whenever they show up. PLGH PLGH PLGH Is ay.

[Broderick]

WTF. Who the fuck wouldmake Chance immune from Exile? As the result of a role? So I wonder if Chance made himself immune from Exile. I doubt the Spies wouldhave that ability.Can't rule it out. Dang this keyboard sticks. Plgggh.

Doctor save? Hahaha. I had justbeenthinking that Dane's plea for the Doctorto save Nita was asly ploy to get the Spies to focus on her. 'She crafted theentire case on...' ROFL.

[Broderick]

spies8broderick (21:40:9): Did you learn anything today Magalie?
spies8magalie (21:40:24): well yes I did actually
spies8magalie (21:41:6): I learned that chance was immune and that no one was imprisoned because the doctor saved them
spies8broderick (21:41:53): Heh okay. Did you learn anything in your conversations with people today?
spies8magalie (21:42:15): yes that isaac is bi and feels like a woman sometimes
spies8isaac (21:42:24): lol
spies8gertrude (21:42:33): Ha.
spies8broderick (21:42:36): Oh geez.
spies8broderick (21:42:38): Game related?
spies8magalie (21:42:53): game related
spies8broderick (21:43:15): Uh yeah.
spies8magalie (21:43:23): no I got to know the person first before I get to know their motives
spies8magalie (21:43:41): I also learned that gertrude thinks your cute
spies8isaac (21:43:50): Well, what's the deal between you and Cinnamyn?
spies8magalie (21:44:5): its all funn.... for me
spies8broderick (21:44:13): Just under two days left until Exile. Do you plan on voting how you did last episode?
spies8isaac (21:44:22): Threatening to spit in your nachos next time you visit Tace Bell...lol
spies8broderick (21:44:23): suspicious, dedicated cit, suspicious?
spies8gertrude (21:44:32): That's me!
spies8magalie (21:45:1): bitch please I cook my own food you fat pig
spies8isaac (21:45:2): what, suspicious or dedicated cit? Or was it worst democrat in the group Gertie....lol
spies8isaac (21:45:21): LOL....cat fight
spies8magalie (21:45:44): omg broderick you can shove it if you keep bringing that up
spies8mary (21:45:54): This conversation looks like a disaster. I'm going to go back to cutting onions.
spies8magalie (21:46:15): I better get nita to make me my real nachos
spies8broderick (21:46:22): I'm trying to have a game related discussion here.
spies8broderick (21:46:30): Why are you so adverse to one?
spies8magalie (21:46:52): okay but sometimes thats why people leave when you are in the chat room
spies8magalie (21:46:58): because your borin
spies8broderick (21:47:15): lol. Evidence
spies8broderick (21:47:20): Show it
spies8magalie (21:47:26): okay fine
spies8magalie (21:47:29) has left the room.
spies8gertrude (21:47:34): LOL
spies8magalie (21:47:44) has entered the room.
spies8magalie (21:47:50): proved it
spies8broderick (21:48:4): Not really.
spies8isaac (21:48:7): Whoa, just got cold in here
spies8broderick (21:48:24): you just proved that you are insanely childish and have no desire to hunt for spies.
spies8magalie (21:48:54): lighten up you fuckin queer
spies8broderick (21:49:11): Heh. All you have? Name calling?
spies8magalie (21:49:22): we can talk game lets talk
spies8magalie (21:49:53): see when you get the floor you dont say shit
spies8broderick (21:50:12): I already asked a question.
spies8broderick (21:50:26): Do you plan on actually voting for someone you find suspicious, and spy hunting this episode?
spies8broderick (21:50:31): Or are you just going to play games?
spies8magalie (21:50:46): I will most likely do the spy huntin
spies8broderick (21:51:33): Most likely?
spies8magalie (21:51:35): broderick are you going to die if you get exiled?
spies8magalie (21:51:51): is you life attached to some kind of spies wire
spies8broderick (21:52:9): Not that I know of.
spies8broderick (21:52:14): Do you have a point?
spies8magalie (21:52:15): do you want me to lay down so you can win the last game of spies
spies8mary (21:52:27): Magalie, what do you think of Gertrude?
spies8broderick (21:52:44): Are you admitting to being a spy Magalie?
spies8magalie (21:53:7): no I am not where would you get that
spies8broderick (21:53:41): do you want me to lay down so you can win the last game of spies
spies8broderick (21:53:51): To win, the spies would need to be eliminated.
spies8magalie (21:54:3): yeah so if I get eliminated
spies8magalie (21:54:8): then you can find the spies
spies8magalie (21:54:20): because im not as dedicated as you are
spies8cinnamyn (21:54:22): how about u jus' help uz magalie lmbo
spies8magalie (21:54:23): duhh
spies8broderick (21:54:25): Uh huh.
spies8magalie (21:54:46): Okay can do
spies8isaac (21:55:25): Ummm just curious gertrude. But why exactly did you post just that random chat bot to Cinn's thread?
spies8magalie (21:55:28): gertude has moved up from spy to unsure in my book
spies8gertrude (21:55:39): Because I thought it was hilarious.
spies8broderick (21:56:13): Why is that Magalie?
spies8isaac (21:56:23): Oh....well then I completely agree with it. Just weren't sure what point you were trying to make as there was no explanation
spies8magalie (21:56:47): I dont have to tell you
spies8magalie (21:57:5): if others want to know they can IM me



..... ..... ..... I wonder if Magalie is five years old.

[Broderick]

What the fuck yo. Helicopter central.

Yesterday(?) there was life flight across the street. Just now a helicopter flew so insanely low, it rattle my windows as it flew over.

[Broderick]

I am wondering when someone will get on my casefornotcontributing, and for notbeing around lol. Usually I can't get on inthemornings, and jointhe activities late afternoon andevening. Yesterday and today arelargely dayswhere I wontbe around. This keyboard stick. RAGHGHGHGHGHg. Anywhoo.. I seem to miss the most dramatic things.... alotofthem apparently. I wonder when someone will accuseme of not contributing.
ROLF.

[Broderick]

On another note. This kitchenis freaking HOOOTTTT. Because I'vebeenbaking for the last two+hours. I cantopenthewindow, because one)sneaky bugs will get in, akafruit flies from hell. and two)it cools the oventemperature down, and the food. because itblows straighttowards the oven. KEyboard, nasty nasty!!!

[Broderick]

Questions for people, since they appear to beAFK or.. with prostitutes.


Claude: Why did you out your role?

Jasmine: Why did you overreact to my FoS'? Do you find either Margot or Gertie suspicious because of their votes? If so, why? (isnt that a bit odd, seeing as you called my FoS' stupid?)

Magalie: "19:37] spies8magalie: stupid fuckin nita". What is that about?

*****Chance: [19:45] spies8gertrude: Does Sam post the Imprisonment stories in a Chat room as well as on the board, or just on the board?
[19:45] spies8chance: i have no idea

You seemed to show Spies knowledge before, why the 'no idea' now?

Awohali: 20:11] Spies8Awohali: I am surprised that Lillith is safe from Imprisonment, after all the great Spy hunting work she has done so far. rofl.

Chance: Why was Nita your prediction for imprisonment?

Claude: According to Margot, you 'convinced' her to vote for Camilla.

[20:54] spies8claude: I'm largely resigned to getting lynched today anyway, but you and whichever scum of Gertrude/Margot(probably Margot) you duped into voting Camilla to force a tie at the last minute aren't going to get awayi with it.


HUMMINGBIRDS!!!! TWO OF THEM. OUTSIDE THE WINDOW. DAmn. I donth ave my camera.


[20:55] spies8chance: ....yeah, cause i totally wasn't defending cam the entire time against your bogus word-twisting. pull the other one.
[20:55] spies8cinnamyn: aight yall imma eat my pizza.! b back l8r may b
[20:55] spies8chance: later sweetness.
[20:55] Spies8Awohali: Farewell, Cinnamyn.
[20:55] spies8claude: Only a Spy ever defends someone else that adamantly anyway, so I'm not sure how that's a point for you. A Citizen never puts their neck on the line for someone else' sake.

These need to be addressed. I think Chance agreed in a later chat about Camilla. Claude's theory is completely wrong.

[Broderick]

I want to go to sleep. zzzzzz

[Broderick]

Jasmine - are you sold on the idea that Chance is a spy? If so, why?

[Broderick]

Claude's Role:

21:12] spies8claude: Stopping a vote is frequently a town one.

[21:12] spies8claude: I also have these abilities:
[21:13] spies8claude: I can pick someone, and choose 2 other people. That person will not be able to vote for those people.
[21:13] spies8claude: I can also pick someone, and choose 3 other people. That person will only be able to vote for those people.

[21:20] spies8claude: I can't use the same ability twice in a row, I have to use each one before I can re-use them

[Broderick]

Lyk 4 reals as Georgia before, I aint got much room to tlk. lol.

Chance & Claude. They both apparently hate each other, and wouldn't mind seeing the other gone, regardless of alignment. I think that they are both blinded by their hatred for each other, that they can not think logically about the situation. Unless they are split up when teams hopefully switch it up, it will be a continuation. If they are both still here when the Merge happens - we'll see (hopefully in my case anyhow.)






*****Claude, why do you trust Awohali and myself this early? (I don't recall you answering the question when we asked.)

[Broderick]

[21:23] Spies8Awohali: This does not seem to fall in line with the idea of you being an emotionless, logical player.
[21:23] spies8claude: It is a calculated, logical decision.

I actually disagree (heh). If you are a citizen, it was a rather rash decision to reveal early Episode Two. If you are a spy, and are spypals with Chance - then yes it could be a calculated, logical decision.


[21:23] spies8cinnamyn: i am curious az 2 why..u didnt go 2 tha few ppl u trusted 2 seal their vote..n' den u wud b safe and every1 n' they motherz wudnt no bout ur role

21:23] Spies8Awohali: Cinnamyn makes a good point.

[21:24] spies8claude: Cinnamyn does make a good point, I just didn't think of that until after I had already said something.


I concur.
I think you should of asked people whether or not they were considering voting for you, before you decided to assume you would be Exiled this Episode.


21:26] spies8claude: Pretty sure 'it could go either way' is not an argument in favor of it being a spy role.

Why wouldn't he say it was a citizen role, if he were a citizen? Why admit that it could go either way? Do you have a hard time boldly lying Claude?

21:37] spies8chance: claude, you say all your powers have to do with controlling votes in some way, correct?
[21:37] spies8claude: That is correct.
[21:38] spies8chance: can you please explain why controlling votes is something a citizen would want to do?
[21:38] spies8claude: You don't really get it, do you? I didn't claim my role as a way of trying to save yourself.
[21:38] spies8claude: The moment that I saw that some other spy had made you immune to Exile today, I pretty much gave up. I admit that.
[21:38] spies8chance: i'm trying to be civil.
[21:38] spies8claude: I claimed my role to provide everyone else with information.
[21:38] spies8chance: the least you could do is avoid the blatant assumptions and other crap.
[21:38] spies8chance: please.
[21:40] spies8claude: It is a logical deduction.
[21:40] spies8claude: You knew you were going to be under heat today. That was obvious just from people talking on the forums between the exile-imprisonment.

[Broderick]

spies8cory (22:27:0): The main thing I'm worried about with Margot is I kind of feel like she's a noob.
spies8cory (22:27:3): Which makes her harder to read.

Side notation. Rinse and Repeat. Rinse and Repeat. lol.
Someone mentions something they find suspicious about another person. It seems to blossom to other people and multiple people are then suspicious of that person and vaguely give reasons. Very few actually delve deeper into that person. Picking from the limelight is what is happening.

I was the first one to FoS Margot, Gertie, and Jasmine for their votes. Look what happened, Margot and Gertie are largely topics of discussion. Quite a few people suspect Margot because of her vote. Yet I apparently rarely state my opinion. HOW MUCH MORE STATEED SHOULD I GET? What the hell do you think an FoS is. IT IS AN OPINION, of MY OWN. Which as far I as know, I was the first to publicly do so.

I am having serious issues concentrating right now. I'm just kind of floating all over the place. lol.
I am hoping that by eating dinner it will help. But ugh it is like ninety degrees outside, and I just want to lay out and tan or something. YAH I KNOW. SURPRISE. ROFL. Bodies will be hitting the floor @ Rockfest 14 in August. On a sunday night. BOOYAH. This summer has so many good cocnerts I want to go to. TOOL in july in SEATTLE. AIC, DEFTONES, and MASTODON in OCTOBER in PDX. AHGHGHGHGHGHG

[Broderick]

spies8jasmine (18:20:4): I'm going to head off in a few more minutes if nothing else really occurs. Gonna get some stuff done before the reveal.

Before the reveal? Nice choice of wording. You seem certain.

[Broderick]

Ugh. That dinner just made me feel ill.

[Savannah]

Win for the most rambling confessional.

Actually, it's nice to hear thoughts other than soley game talk and helps keep my attention.