Episode 3 Conversations

[Awohali]

spies8jenny (1:56:00 PM): So how has the game been going since I last saw you?
Spies8Awohali (1:56:47 PM): It has been interesting, to say the least. Most of our drama has stemmed from a feud, but we have also faced the inactive bug from the likes of Margot and Magalie, both garnering suspicion recently, and Margot ultimately dying because of it.
spies8jenny (1:57:26 PM): I heard about Maggie a bit from Spice. Something about how she's coming off badly because of her attitude.
spies8jenny is available (2:05:25 PM)
Spies8Awohali (2:11:52 PM): I apologize, I did not get an alert from your last message. And yes, Magalie's attitude is poor, but beyond that, she has been senseless so fa.
spies8jenny is available (2:37:01 PM)
spies8jenny (2:13:17 PM): Good to keep in mind then. Hopefully I will have some better luck.
Spies8Awohali (2:13:36 PM): If you do, I would loe to employ you as a translator.

[Awohali]

spies8nita (1:42:52 PM): Hola Awohali!
Spies8Awohali (1:43:14 PM): Nita, Osiyo, I am glad that you have come online to relieve me of my solitude! How are you?
spies8nita (1:43:33 PM): I do come online to do that, I see your post
Spies8Awohali (1:43:44 PM): It was a veiled cry for help
spies8nita (1:44:00 PM): I'm doin okay, things cool down a little here so it ain't so hot
spies8nita (1:44:08 PM): How you doin?
Spies8Awohali (1:44:56 PM): Yes, the break is probably partially to blame. I am well, but interested in quickly pursuing leads. Have you had a chance to meet much of the original Demcorats on our team now?
spies8nita (1:45:20 PM): Just Claude, Cinnamyn, Gertrude y Magalie
spies8nita (1:45:29 PM): Still got you, Mary, Chance y Cory
spies8nita (1:45:49 PM): So I workin on it
spies8nita (1:45:55 PM): You meet Allan, Jenny, Rondak y Hambone?
Spies8Awohali (1:46:19 PM): Well, here is your chance to cut that list in half! And no, you are the first have had the pleasure of speaking with. I was unable to get online yesterday, the first day back from the break.
spies8nita (1:47:11 PM): They good people, you like them
spies8nita (1:47:21 PM): You see from our chat votes, everybody like everybody
spies8nita (1:47:27 PM): Ain't as crazy as you all
Spies8Awohali (1:48:03 PM): Yes, we have a feud over here between Chance and Claude, and speaking of that... What is your view on their quarrel at the moment? I am interested to get a fresh perspective
spies8nita (1:48:11 PM): I got lots of notes on that
spies8nita (1:48:16 PM): Read lot yesterday
spies8nita (1:48:35 PM): I ain't suspectin Chance much
spies8nita (1:49:00 PM): Somethin against him bein the piont he play devil's advocate or avoid makin stances, he do both
spies8nita (1:49:26 PM): Other pont bout him, Cinnamyn say he bring up others thoughts without givin his own
spies8nita (1:49:37 PM): Apparently he had a meltdown when questioned
spies8nita (1:49:46 PM): Y he change suspects quick
spies8nita (1:50:12 PM): So I see where people comin from, just ain't sure because I find more on Claude
Spies8Awohali (1:50:21 PM): These do sound like the primary points against him, although I have yet to see the examples of him changing suspects quickly, even though the claims have been made.
spies8nita (1:50:38 PM): Said change from Broderick y Magalie to Claude y Cory
Spies8Awohali (1:50:38 PM): And I agree, I am much more suspicious of Claude at the moment, though hesitant to vote a role out so early.
spies8nita (1:50:53 PM): I'm lookin at the role thing as a moot point
spies8nita (1:50:58 PM): here's why
spies8nita (1:51:02 PM): Claude, he seem real crazy
spies8nita (1:51:28 PM): Last night I ask him why he suspectin Tina
spies8nita (1:51:36 PM): he say because Tina talk to Cory, y who would do that less they had to?
spies8nita (1:51:44 PM): Loco.
spies8nita (1:52:06 PM): I ask him, why he claim when he take Chance's vote away y only 2 other people vote him?
spies8nita (1:52:10 PM): Why he so worried?
spies8nita (1:52:19 PM): He say he ain't worried, he just tryin to give information to the town
spies8nita (1:52:28 PM): How that information that helps the citizens?
spies8nita (1:52:29 PM): Loco.
spies8nita (1:52:33 PM): Other stuff too
spies8nita (1:52:51 PM): Point es, do I want some loco hombre runnin around messin wit people's votes?
Spies8Awohali (1:52:52 PM): Right, he does not make any sense, and his claims are very frequently contradicted by himself.
Spies8Awohali (1:53:16 PM): Have you read the public chat between him and I that discusses the discrepancy between him not believing in emotion and attributing his role claim to emotion?
spies8nita (1:53:35 PM): No. I ain't so good with big public chat transcripts
spies8nita (1:53:47 PM): How bout you summarize the important parts?
Spies8Awohali (1:54:06 PM): I do not blame you in the least. I myself am unable to read through the long transcirpts; it is tedious.
Spies8Awohali (1:54:23 PM): Basically, Claude argued that he does not believe Citizens should ever use emotion because it does no good.
Spies8Awohali (1:54:49 PM): When he made his role claim, I mentioned that it sounded like he made an emotional, panicked decision, but he responded saying that it was a "Calculated, logical decision"
spies8nita (1:54:59 PM): I ain't seen the logic in it
Spies8Awohali (1:55:16 PM): However, as more heat was placed upon him for the claim, he started to say that it was an emotional decision
Spies8Awohali (1:55:33 PM): So I provided him with his claim that it was calculated and logical, and he tried to argue that it was both.
spies8nita (1:56:55 PM): So you agreen that he ain't all there?
Spies8Awohali (1:57:18 PM): I am in total agreement with that. Since the first Episode I have felt that he would be an issue.
Spies8Awohali (1:57:50 PM): By the way, Mary, Jenny, and I are all in the DEMOCRAT CHAT ROOM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US.
Spies8Awohali (1:57:56 PM): And I apologize for that Caps lock.
spies8nita (1:58:02 PM): You ain't gotta scream at me
spies8nita (1:58:06 PM): I old but I ain't that old
spies8nita is available (2:02:24 PM)
spies8nita (1:58:33 PM): Gonna be a mom in a few months
spies8nita is available (1:59:14 PM)
Spies8Awohali (1:59:15 PM): I am glad to hear that, an early congratulations!
spies8nita (2:00:00 PM): Gracias!
spies8nita (2:00:18 PM): Back to Claude, you see why I ain't worried bout his role?
spies8nita (2:00:32 PM): If the hombre es suspicious, you exile him.
spies8nita (2:00:45 PM): Can't let the role thing stop you because he a crazy man runnin round with a role
Spies8Awohali (2:01:29 PM): I agree with you here. I did wish to see how he used his role this Episode, out of curiosity, which is why I did not vote for him last episode.
Spies8Awohali (2:01:34 PM): I am interested to see what he does.
spies8nita (2:01:44 PM): Why?
spies8nita (2:02:07 PM): I no see your point. If you suspect him, why is waitin to see what a spy suspect do with a role a good thing?
spies8nita is available (2:02:21 PM)
Spies8Awohali (2:02:40 PM): His first use of his role tells me nothing, because Spy or Cit, he had reason to use it on Chance. I merely wish to get a better understanding of him before voting for him. I was very adamant last episode that this grace period would be very brief
spies8nita is available (2:04:17 PM)
spies8nita (2:05:05 PM): Then you waitin to see what he do aint' the right move
spies8nita (2:05:09 PM): Waitin es passive
spies8nita is available (2:05:23 PM)
spies8nita (2:06:02 PM): I also no believe in lettin suspects have time to act
Spies8Awohali (2:06:04 PM): It can be, if done improperly. I do not wait with my hands behind my back, though. I was able to collect a good bit of evidence from Claude while under the pretense that I was not voting for him.
spies8nita (2:06:12 PM): They make the right move, you forget bout them
Spies8Awohali (2:07:13 PM): I am not one to ever forget.
spies8nita (2:07:27 PM): So why you suspectin claude?
spies8nita (2:07:35 PM): Y then I ask what you think of chance
Spies8Awohali (2:08:14 PM): He has lied, is what it comes down to. He cannot claim to have made a "calculated, logical decision" and then later state that he was in "an emotional state" and made a rash decision, and then claim that it is all true... That does not even make sense.
Spies8Awohali (2:08:33 PM): He has employed a bullying tactic to get rid of his suspects so far, starting that it must either be his suspect or himself.
spies8nita is available (2:09:00 PM)
Spies8Awohali (2:09:06 PM): And he always states that he is absolutely certain that his suspects are Spies, even in Episode 1, which I fview as impossible to be "certain", and of course he was wrong.

[Awohali]

spies8mary (1:45:18 PM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (1:45:18 PM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (1:45:24 PM): Hello there, Mary.
spies8mary (1:45:25 PM): Osiyo.
Spies8Awohali (1:45:43 PM): Ah, you are learnnig the tongue of my people, my unali'i
spies8mary (1:46:20 PM): Are you Cherokee?
Spies8Awohali (1:46:39 PM): I am. But I do not sing the song about "Cherokee People".
spies8mary (1:46:48 PM): That's a joke.
spies8mary (1:47:03 PM): I almost laughed.
Spies8Awohali (1:47:15 PM): It is, and I will some day manage to get you to truly laugh!
spies8mary (1:47:42 PM): Maybe tonight. I'm starting to enjoy the big group meetings more.
spies8mary (1:47:58 PM): I didn't get to talk to you after the last exile.
Spies8Awohali (1:48:21 PM): Yes, the break was unfortunate, although I would not have been online those days, anyway
spies8mary (1:48:21 PM): Have you been able to talk with Magalie since then?
spies8mary (1:48:27 PM): Oh.
spies8mary (1:48:31 PM): You were away.
Spies8Awohali (1:48:34 PM): Unfortunately no, this is my first appearance since the break.
spies8mary (1:48:44 PM): Did you have a nice weekend?
spies8jenny (1:49:07 PM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (1:49:09 PM): I did! I spent a great deal of the time sweating, but it was a good weekend, overall.
Spies8Awohali (1:49:13 PM): Osiyo, Jenny.
spies8jenny (1:49:19 PM): Hi there
spies8mary (1:49:23 PM): Hi.
Spies8Awohali (1:49:29 PM): It is nice to meet you officially.
spies8mary (1:49:36 PM): Were you in a sweat lodge, Awohali?
spies8jenny (1:49:40 PM): Haven't seen you since before teams were picked.
spies8jenny (1:50:32 PM): I miss anything?
Spies8Awohali (1:50:52 PM): I was no, thanbkfully, though it may as well have been that.
Spies8Awohali (1:51:16 PM): I was invited to a program known as "CrossFit Inception" by a friend. It was interesting...
Spies8Awohali (1:51:24 PM): I am not sure, Jenny, this is my first time online since the break.
Spies8Awohali (1:51:34 PM): Weekends are usually bad for me, time-wise.
spies8mary (1:51:39 PM): I think maybe if we get everyone into a sweat lodge one of these nights, the Spies may give in under the heat.
spies8jenny (1:51:41 PM): It looks like we have an activity tonight.
Spies8Awohali (1:52:25 PM): That is not such a bad idea, Mary. Perhaps I will secretly pack ice for the three of us so that we may not die in the process.
spies8mary (1:52:38 PM): Are the teams for the activity Democrat vs. Republican?
spies8jenny (1:52:43 PM): Yep.
spies8mary (1:53:07 PM): I think we can win.
spies8mary (1:53:14 PM): If everyone tries hard.
spies8mary (1:53:25 PM): We have a lot of smart people on this team.
Spies8Awohali (1:53:40 PM): I surely do hope so. I will not be online at 8:00, but I plan to be by 9:30 or 10
spies8mary (1:54:31 PM): Awohali, were you able to meet Nita yet?
Spies8Awohali (1:55:43 PM): I am speaking with her through the IM's at the moiment
Spies8Awohali (1:55:51 PM): We are discussing... You guessed it, Claude and Chance.
spies8mary (1:57:13 PM): I invited her to this group and she hasn't accepted it.
Spies8Awohali (1:57:31 PM): I will kindly remind her that we are all here.
spies8jenny (1:57:38 PM): I'll invite her!
spies8nita (1:57:50 PM) has entered the room.
spies8mary (1:57:54 PM): Hi.
spies8jenny (1:58:00 PM): Hi Ni-Ni!
Spies8Awohali (1:58:04 PM): Hello, Nita.
spies8mary (1:58:13 PM): Your name is a nice green.
spies8mary (1:58:20 PM): You got lucky.
spies8jenny (1:58:27 PM): Looks like the first part of the challenge tonight involves a picture of some kind if he's saying we need paint.
Spies8Awohali (1:59:02 PM): Painting is something I can handle; doing construction work for a few years eventually makes you a master artist with a roller.
spies8nita (1:59:14 PM): Gracias, I choose the color myself
spies8jenny (1:59:21 PM): I'll go ahead and get a photobucket account ready just in case.
spies8mary (1:59:22 PM): Jenny, have you read many of the old Democrat group chats?
spies8jenny (2:00:00 PM): Not yet Mary, I've been wanting to meet all the new people first before doing that. Is there anything in particular I should look at?
spies8mary (2:00:41 PM): Well, I'd say it's all important.
spies8mary (2:00:55 PM): That is why you're so diligent about posting group chats, right?
spies8jenny (2:01:31 PM): Yep.

Don't worry, I'll be sure to read all of them. I just didn't want to join the team and then not talk with anyone.
spies8mary (2:01:51 PM): I think Zed and Nita are probably Citizens.
spies8nita (2:02:21 PM): Por que?
spies8nita (2:02:24 PM): Why?
spies8mary (2:02:25 PM): Do you two agree?
spies8nita (2:02:58 PM): Y I no like that quesiton before imprisonment.
spies8jenny (2:03:18 PM): Nita I agree with, Zeddy I'm not as sure on.

Also, on my way home from work a few minutes ago (had to leave early because I'm apparently sick ) I was thinking about something. Themby keeps mistaking myself and Stephi-kins for the other. If one of them turns out to be a spy, I would think the other isn't likely to be one, because I would think Themby would remember who is on her own team and what they are doing.
Spies8Awohali (2:03:22 PM): Yes, it may not be good to discuss likely citizens at the moment, otherwise I would comment upon this.
spies8mary (2:03:52 PM): I don't understand.
spies8jenny (2:04:14 PM): Who is that directed at?
spies8nita (2:04:17 PM): If you no understand somethin obvious like that then there ain't no way my explainin it to you gonna do anything
spies8hambone (2:05:16 PM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (2:05:23 PM): Greetings, Hambone.
spies8nita (2:05:23 PM): Hambone mi amor, I miss you
spies8jenny (2:05:25 PM): Hi there Hammy!
spies8hambone (2:05:30 PM): AWOHALLLLLLIIIIIII
spies8mary (2:05:33 PM): Hi.
spies8hambone (2:05:35 PM): finally get to meet the man himself
spies8hambone (2:05:45 PM): hello mary
spies8hambone (2:05:48 PM): nice to meet u 2
spies8mary (2:06:03 PM): I don't like the idea that we should stop discussing our opinions for days at a time.
spies8hambone (2:06:14 PM):
spies8hambone (2:06:18 PM): so
Spies8Awohali (2:06:25 PM): Indeed, Hambone, aarrrggg!
Spies8Awohali (2:07:00 PM): I do not think that we should cease to discuss our opinions, but it would be prudent to be a bit more careful of who we say is a Citizen right before the Imprisonment.
spies8mary (2:08:14 PM): What's different between today or yesterday or Thursday night?
spies8nita (2:08:39 PM): You ain't the smartest rat en the cage, I see that
spies8nita (2:09:00 PM): You do what you want Mary. But I ain't gonna answer questions that help the spies pick out targets
Spies8Awohali (2:09:30 PM): Mary is very bright, Nita. She has been one of the greatest contributors of our team so far.
spies8mary (2:10:03 PM): I imagine that you want me to only talk about perceived Spies then?
Spies8Awohali (2:10:04 PM): Her insightful questions that most of us would not have thought to ask have sparked many important discussions.
spies8mary (2:10:28 PM): We're not to talk about perceived Citizens?
spies8mary (2:10:39 PM): What if one or more of them are Spies?
spies8nita (2:10:46 PM): You do what you want. But you throw people under the bus, I gonna call you out
spies8mary (2:11:01 PM): What do you mean by that?
spies8nita (2:13:12 PM): Al mal tiempo, buena cara. Lord, I'm askin for patience
spies8mary (2:13:38 PM): It's not polite to say things like that and then not clarify what you mean.
spies8nita (2:14:12 PM): Then I rude. Now we agree y can talk bout somethin else.
spies8mary (2:14:45 PM): You remind me of Claude.
Spies8Awohali (2:14:57 PM): Who, between the two of you, Nita and Jenny, would you say is the most suspicious person coming over from your team, and why?
spies8jenny (2:15:30 PM): We had myself, Ni-Ni, Al, Hammy, and Rondie come over right?
Spies8Awohali (2:16:07 PM): I believe so, yes
spies8nita (2:16:11 PM): None of them be my top suspects right now
spies8mary (2:16:42 PM): If we ask you in exactly the right way, would you share your suspects with us?
spies8jenny (2:16:53 PM): Out of that, I know I'm a cit of course . Ni-Ni and Al I think are cits for now. And between Hammy and Rondie, I would pick Rondie just because he's only recently getting into game discussion.

A former republican wouldn't really be my first choice for a vote for the time being though.
spies8nita (2:18:08 PM): I know there suspicion on Jenny y I had some too
spies8nita (2:18:19 PM): Most of it be she ain't lookin for spies
spies8nita (2:18:25 PM): I agree with that
spies8nita (2:18:40 PM): She's sayin that ain't her style. She looks for people to trust first y then finds the spies from the people she don't
spies8mary (2:18:58 PM): I've seen you say that before.
spies8nita (2:19:03 PM): So like Rondak y Allan y Zedekiah I watchin to see what they do next. They know what wrong with their gameplay
spies8nita (2:19:27 PM): If they no change then they ain't doin their job as citizens. Y then no can use "I no know what people want" as an excuse
spies8mary (2:19:42 PM): Nita, what is your opinion of Zed?
spies8nita (2:19:47 PM): Then they just actin like spies instead of new players
spies8nita (2:20:01 PM): Zedekiah, I no suspect him. Alexei, he grill him real hard
spies8nita (2:20:09 PM): Over nothin
spies8nita (2:20:14 PM): Alexei first person to call it a case
spies8mary (2:21:32 PM): What do you think of Stephanie's and Allan's votes at Exile 1?
spies8nita (2:21:50 PM): Allan, he a real wildcard
spies8nita (2:21:55 PM): He loco y I no know what he doin
spies8nita (2:22:08 PM): Stephanie, she one my biggest suspects. I no trust her.
spies8nita (2:22:23 PM): First round she vote real dumb for Dane
Spies8Awohali (2:22:38 PM): I apologize, I am speaking with my father at the moment.
spies8nita (2:22:41 PM): Second round she make dumb accusations y then jump on Savannah
spies8hambone (2:23:14 PM): im kinda shocked that i havent been asked a single question
spies8mary (2:23:15 PM): If she was a spy, wouldn't she have voted for Zed?
spies8mary (2:23:20 PM): Unless Zed is a spy?
spies8hambone (2:23:26 PM): i met cory chance and gerty last night and not one asked me a single question
spies8nita (2:23:49 PM): I ain't playin the game "what would a spy do?"
spies8mary (2:24:01 PM): Hambone, what were your reasons for voting Allan?
Spies8Awohali (2:24:27 PM): And I now return.
spies8nita (2:24:35 PM): Even more weird, why Alexei tell Tina he votin Stephanie y then he no do it? Why mention Stephanie at all?
spies8mary (2:24:48 PM): I think when people's votes directly or indirectly get a spy exiled, it's notable.
spies8hambone (2:24:49 PM): allan admitted he was a liar
spies8mary (2:25:11 PM): Both Allan's and Stephanie's votes indirectly got Alexei exiled.
spies8hambone (2:25:13 PM): i asked him about his vote... whether it was for Z or Alexei
spies8hambone (2:25:46 PM): and first he said he never read the case on alexei
spies8hambone (2:25:56 PM): then he admitted to me that he only skimmed it when i asked him about it
Spies8Awohali (2:26:01 PM): I agree that people's votes when a Spy is Exiled are very notable and worth examining.
spies8hambone (2:26:07 PM): and then later that night in the group chat he admitted that he never even read it at all
spies8hambone (2:26:39 PM): so he says he suspected alexei, then he lies to me, revealing he never even read the case
spies8mary (2:26:41 PM): It doesn't make sense that Alexei didn't vote for Zed.
spies8hambone (2:26:58 PM): then he leaves before the vote and votes for random Owen, which was a purely wasted vote
spies8hambone (2:27:12 PM): however, i was not online when he roleclaimed, so I was the only one who voted for him
spies8nita (2:27:45 PM): If you look at Alexei, nothin he do make sense cept tryin to put suspicion on Zedekiah
spies8nita (2:27:47 PM): that what I think.
Spies8Awohali (2:27:48 PM): Alexei seemed to hav egiven up, from what I could read.
spies8jenny (2:27:49 PM): Hammy came online at the buzzer for the deadline, and had enough time for me to go "Hammy, change your vote from Al, he's got a role!" before time was up.
Spies8Awohali (2:28:14 PM): Allan roleclaimed? This is news to me.
spies8mary (2:28:22 PM): Jenny did actually.
spies8jenny (2:28:25 PM): Well technically I had to claim his role for him.
Spies8Awohali (2:28:29 PM): I have not heard this... Would someone mind a summary?
spies8jenny (2:28:34 PM): He had claimed to me before, and wasn't online when exile was about to happen.
spies8mary (2:28:59 PM): Jenny, was he upset with you at all afterwards?
spies8jenny (2:29:00 PM): So an hour before exile happened, since it looked like he would be exiled otherwise, I told everyone online about Al claiming a role to me and Ni-Ni.
spies8jenny (2:29:22 PM): Nah, he said thanks for doing so since he realized he probably would have been exiled if that didn't happen.
Spies8Awohali (2:29:28 PM): Is there information of this role in the Burg? If so, I have missed it.
spies8mary (2:29:30 PM): Who switched their votes?
spies8jenny (2:29:46 PM): It should be in the end of the group chats for episode 2. Look at the time an hour before Exile.
spies8hambone (2:29:47 PM): [22:01] spies8jenny: Screw it, I don't have time to wait to see if Allan is coming on or not, we're going to be short on time as it is.
[22:01] spies8savannah: =O
[22:01] spies8jenny: Don't vote him, he claimed a role to me the other day. And since he's going to get lynched otherwise, there's no point not saying something.
spies8hambone (2:29:58 PM): Jenny this is what I wanted to ask you about
spies8hambone (2:30:06 PM): and since we're on the topic I'll just ask you in here
spies8jenny (2:30:11 PM): Okies.
spies8hambone (2:30:17 PM): i wasnt online at the time, so I dont know what 1 on 1 convos u were having
spies8hambone (2:30:23 PM): but i have looked at the group chat and the voting thread
spies8hambone (2:30:31 PM): the only votes on Allan were mine, danes, and thembas
spies8hambone (2:30:37 PM): even savannah posted saying she was not voting for allan
spies8hambone (2:30:44 PM): allan had roleclaimed to you and nita
spies8hambone (2:30:53 PM): nita is bff's with tina, so u can cross off tina voting for allan
spies8hambone (2:31:04 PM): and gabe had a huge case on savannah, which others like kiara and owen were agreeing to
spies8hambone (2:31:14 PM): so the time is 2 hours before the vote
spies8hambone (2:31:22 PM): and u roleclaim for allan
spies8jenny (2:31:26 PM): No, it was only one hour.
spies8hambone (2:31:32 PM): in the chat
spies8hambone (2:31:33 PM): it says 2
spies8jenny (2:31:40 PM): The time stamps are EST.
spies8hambone (2:31:44 PM): someone says about 2 hours til the vote
spies8hambone (2:31:48 PM): but ok
spies8hambone (2:31:51 PM): either way
spies8hambone (2:32:06 PM): so why did u roleclaim for him
spies8hambone (2:32:12 PM): i just talked to nita
spies8hambone (2:32:15 PM): sorry nita if u didnt want this said
Spies8Awohali (2:32:19 PM): If this portion of the chat could be posted for examining, I would greatly appreciate it.
spies8hambone (2:32:23 PM): but allan told nita NOT to give out his role
spies8jenny (2:32:24 PM): It is up.
spies8hambone (2:32:26 PM): did he say the same to u
Spies8Awohali (2:32:37 PM): Is it in the Republican forum?
spies8jenny (2:32:43 PM): Yep.
spies8hambone (2:32:46 PM): he did?
spies8jenny (2:32:54 PM): Group Chats - Episode 2.
Spies8Awohali (2:32:56 PM): I shall endeavor to check it out when I return tonight, then.
spies8jenny (2:32:57 PM): Look under the last few posts.
spies8jenny (2:33:03 PM): And to answer Hammy.
spies8jenny (2:34:17 PM): Yes he did request that when he claimed to me, but neither he nor Ni-Ni were on when it was approaching exile, and from my count of what people were saying about the vote, it looked like Al was the fore runner. It would have been silly for me to stay quiet about a potential town role being on the chopping block.
spies8jenny (2:34:40 PM): A few hours later when Al finally came back on, he saw what happened and said thanks for doing so, agreeing with what I did.
spies8hambone (2:35:03 PM): really wow
spies8hambone (2:35:09 PM): cuz im looking at the votes now
spies8hambone (2:35:13 PM): he wasnt the forerunner, savannah was
spies8nita (2:35:24 PM): When he say this? I ain't seen him.
spies8jenny (2:35:41 PM): It was about 1:30 am my time.
spies8nita (2:35:44 PM): Y wasn't it break right after exile?
spies8nita (2:35:48 PM): Oh you still talkin at that time?
spies8hambone (2:35:58 PM): right before the roleclaim the votes were.... 3 for allan - me dane and themba
spies8jenny (2:36:02 PM): We were allowed to talk to each other for the rest of the night.
spies8hambone (2:36:10 PM): 4 for savannah - gabe tina steph and owen
spies8jenny (2:36:18 PM): Hold on, doorbell over here.
spies8hambone (2:36:22 PM): one for themba - Z
spies8hambone (2:36:38 PM): one for steph - savannah (so she didnt vote allan even though she was on the chopping block)
spies8hambone (2:36:53 PM): and the only people not to vote were Nita/Jenny, Rondak, Kiara, and Allan himself
spies8jenny (2:37:01 PM): Just some guy giving out flyers, I'm back.
spies8hambone (2:37:02 PM): right there that's THREE guaranteed votes who wont vote for allan
spies8hambone (2:37:11 PM): allan himself, and the 2 ppl he roleclaimed to
spies8hambone (2:37:14 PM): you Jenny, and Nita
spies8hambone (2:37:29 PM): so unless ppl switched votes, he was definitely safe
spies8hambone (2:37:33 PM): by at least 3 votes
Spies8Awohali (2:37:49 PM): That sounds quite curious.
spies8nita (2:40:22 PM): Jenny where you go?
spies8jenny (2:40:54 PM): I'm here, just looking up the chat log from that night. Maybe I miscounted at the time, but I'm sure at the time it seemed like Al was ahead in the votes.
spies8hambone (2:41:15 PM): he wasnt, but, u mightve thought he was
spies8mary (2:41:33 PM): Normally, it's good policy to get all the details about a claimed role out.
spies8hambone (2:41:38 PM): either way giving out his role i dont think was a good idea
spies8mary (2:41:47 PM): If the roleclaim saved someone from exile.
spies8hambone (2:41:54 PM): yeah but if he wasnt going
spies8mary (2:41:56 PM): But in this case I don't think that policy applies.
spies8hambone (2:41:56 PM): theres no need
spies8hambone (2:42:01 PM): yea
spies8hambone (2:42:11 PM): if he had the votes though
spies8mary (2:42:15 PM): Unless there's a troubling sign in the roleclaim.
spies8hambone (2:42:15 PM): then u definitely gotta roleclaim
Spies8Awohali (2:42:47 PM): It would be prudent, then, for Jenny to explain who exactly she thought was voting Allan, so that we may ascertain the threat from her point of view
spies8mary (2:42:48 PM): Nita and Jenny, is there anything contradictory or questionable about Allan's roleclaim?
spies8nita (2:43:12 PM): No that I see. It be his behavior that questionable
spies8nita (2:43:52 PM): He say to me if he no know his alignment he would suspect hisself
spies8mary (2:43:59 PM): Did his talk about an equivalent role on the "other team" sound unusual at all?
spies8nita (2:44:24 PM): No. I no have no idea how roles in this game go. He say it sound like there could be, I say okay
spies8jenny (2:44:47 PM): I would have likd more information on that myself, but I can't exactly ask to see what the specifics of the role say.
spies8mary (2:45:52 PM): If he were a Spy and knew a Cit had the same role, he would have to be prepared for a counterclaim.
spies8nita (2:46:17 PM): Si, I guess so. But as far as I know no one say "He lyin, that be my role"
spies8hambone (2:46:36 PM): i still need to talk to him 1 on 1
spies8hambone (2:46:39 PM): about his role
spies8hambone (2:46:45 PM): id like to hear it in his own words what it is
spies8nita (2:46:46 PM): I ain't usin no role claim to decide if a person is a citizen or spy
spies8mary (2:46:55 PM): I'm not sure he should be asked about his role.
spies8hambone (2:47:05 PM): he already explained it
spies8hambone (2:47:06 PM): sort of
spies8mary (2:47:14 PM): Considering he didn't claim it publicly.
spies8nita (2:47:19 PM): I'm agreein with Mary on this one
spies8nita (2:47:34 PM): Ain't no reason for us to need to know more. Only help the spies as they figure out what to do with him, if he ain't one
Spies8Awohali (2:47:37 PM): I must run, everyone. Enjoy your discussions, I shall return tonight!
spies8mary (2:47:42 PM): Right.
spies8hambone (2:47:42 PM): later A
spies8mary (2:47:49 PM): Bye Eagle.
spies8jenny (2:48:01 PM): See you soon Hali!
spies8nita (2:48:02 PM): Adios Awohali
Spies8Awohali (2:48:03 PM): Farewell!

[Awohali]

spies8hambone (2:38:02 PM): just IMing you
spies8hambone (2:38:05 PM): so ur added to my buddy list
spies8hambone (2:38:10 PM): u were the last one im yet to meet
Spies8Awohali (2:39:04 PM): Ah, I apoligize for taking my time to be online! I also am sad that I will have to leave in a moment... I would very much like to discuss with you some of the things going on on your former team, you seem to be a reiable one
spies8hambone (2:40:15 PM): yeah sure
spies8hambone (2:40:25 PM): discuss all u gotta discuss with me
spies8hambone (2:40:32 PM): hopefully im around after imprisonment -__-
spies8hambone (2:40:53 PM): if im not then just talk to nita
Spies8Awohali (2:40:57 PM): I do hope that you will be... I will certainly be on tonight for a long time
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spies8hambone (2:42:28 PM): ok
spies8hambone (2:42:33 PM): ive got plans during the day today
spies8hambone (2:42:40 PM): but ill be online later tonight, possibly late
spies8hambone (2:42:52 PM): see im worried because there arent many of us alexei voters to choose from
spies8hambone (2:42:58 PM): and i feel like its prolly one of us
Spies8Awohali (2:43:10 PM): Yes... That would make sense, since he is the only Spy to be removed so far.
spies8hambone (2:43:11 PM): assuming the spies tried choosing one of us last time, and whoever was chosen was protected
spies8hambone (2:43:16 PM): ya
Spies8Awohali (2:44:23 PM): The Imprisonment surely is not tonight, is it?
spies8hambone (2:44:36 PM): i have no idea
Spies8Awohali (2:44:58 PM): Me neither. I have not seen an announcement for it yet
spies8hambone (2:45:00 PM): when did the host say it is
Spies8Awohali (2:45:16 PM): I cannot recall him saying... Which hopefully means it is not soon.
spies8hambone (2:45:34 PM): oh
spies8hambone (2:45:35 PM): it says it
spies8hambone (2:45:38 PM): in the banner
spies8hambone (2:45:42 PM): Monday, 7:00 PM CDT non-live: Imprisonment 3 story posted
spies8hambone (2:45:58 PM): thats 5 hours for now 0_0 right
Spies8Awohali (2:46:00 PM): ...Tonight. How wonderful.
spies8hambone (2:46:03 PM): lolol
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Spies8Awohali (2:46:39 PM): Well, I am on my way out the door, and I will not be back until after that time... I wish you good fortune tonight, and if I should be killed, however unlikely, I wish you good luck throughout the game!

[Awohali]

spies8mary (2:15:52 PM): I don't like her one bit.
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Spies8Awohali (2:16:24 PM): I am understanding why that is. She seems a bit... opinionated.
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Spies8Awohali (2:17:12 PM): Your last chat message was a nice subtle snipe, though, and for that I applaud you. She acted similarly with me in IM's.
spies8mary (2:17:37 PM): We're supposed to be getting to know them.
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spies8mary (2:18:18 PM): I think Zed is an excellent person to ask about because he is or has been a suspect of many.
spies8mary is available (2:18:19 PM)
spies8mary (2:18:33 PM): Did you think it was wrong of me to bring him up?
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Spies8Awohali (2:19:13 PM): Agreed, and he is an interesting one to me as well, and it was not wrong at all.
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Spies8Awohali (2:30:34 PM): We are not getting many answers on this subject...
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spies8mary (2:30:55 PM): It didn't look like Allan was in danger and Jenny claimed for him.
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Spies8Awohali (2:31:27 PM): That seems ridiculously early to roleclaim.
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spies8mary (2:33:20 PM): He also says he believes there is a member of the "opposite team" with the same role he has.
Spies8Awohali (2:33:47 PM): That is quite interesting... His role is not similar to Claude's, is it?
spies8mary (2:33:58 PM): It doesn't sound like it.
spies8mary (2:34:13 PM): Are we close to having too many roles for them all to be Citizen yet?
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spies8mary (2:34:32 PM): You're aware that Savannah claimed to have a role as well?
spies8mary (2:34:39 PM): The girl who was exiled?
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Spies8Awohali (2:34:54 PM): I was not aware of this, either... Perhaps I should change my policy on reading public chat logs.
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spies8mary (2:35:05 PM): You usually don't read them?
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Spies8Awohali (2:35:56 PM): Not usually, I scan them, but honestly, I have limited time available online. I have always believed it to be better spent focusing on talking to people rather than reading logs that are filled with casual chatter.
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spies8mary (2:36:05 PM): I agree.
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Spies8Awohali (2:36:16 PM): I wish that more people would single out important portions and post them sperately. I try to do this whenever something of interest happens.
spies8mary is available (2:36:18 PM)
spies8mary (2:36:23 PM): I was fortunate to have a free hour this weekend to read Republican logs.
spies8mary (2:36:36 PM): Savannah claimed Messenger.
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Spies8Awohali (2:37:14 PM): Did she have anyone to confirm that she had sent a message in the beginningof round 2?

spies8mary is available (2:37:14 PM)
spies8mary (2:37:49 PM): I don't know any details. The claim was briefly mentioned at Exile chat I believe.
Spies8Awohali (2:38:20 PM): That is something I will try to find more about soon. I am about to be leaving, so it will have to sit until tonight...
spies8mary (2:38:30 PM): That's too bad.
Spies8Awohali (2:39:21 PM): It really is, I would not be opposed to calling in sick, but I can not tell a lie.
spies8mary (2:40:15 PM): I noticed that when you got your answer from Magalie on the forums.
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spies8mary (2:40:32 PM): You disguised your feelings but they still came through.
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Spies8Awohali (2:41:23 PM): You must be referring to my... Lack of enthusiasm regarding Magalie's behavior?
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spies8mary (2:43:03 PM): Yes. You stopped short of contempt.
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Spies8Awohali (2:43:56 PM): I did try my best. I try to be as unbiased as I can be when it comes to making game decisions. I have already decided not to vote for her this round, so that I know I will be making a vote in the right mindset.
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spies8mary (2:44:29 PM): I want to talk to her.
Spies8Awohali (2:44:43 PM): As do I, she is difficult to find.
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spies8mary (2:44:56 PM): I think she can be questioned effectively but it will take the right touch.
Spies8Awohali (2:45:34 PM): Yes, and I will probably not be the one that needs to do it, although I will try if I need to.
spies8mary (2:46:05 PM): I will try.
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Spies8Awohali (2:46:54 PM): I will greatly appreciate this. I must be going now, but I will return tonight.
spies8mary is available (2:47:19 PM)
spies8mary (2:47:24 PM): Take care.
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Spies8Awohali (2:47:55 PM): You too, donadagovi, Mary.

[Awohali]

spies8Nita (12:46:44 AM): I'm changin you to #9
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Spies8Awohali (12:47:15 AM): I will abandon the question I have been working on, then, and start over, I guess.
spies8Nita (12:47:26 AM): If you want to finish, finish
Spies8Awohali (12:47:41 AM): I will do as the organizer wishes.
spies8Nita is available (12:53:43 AM)
Spies8Awohali (12:54:41 AM): THARN for number 9.
spies8Nita is available (12:57:58 AM)
spies8Nita (12:58:05 AM): Gracias, I see it

[Awohali]

spies8hambone (10:34:14 PM):
spies8hambone (10:34:20 PM): im very interested to see what she says again
spies8hambone (10:34:26 PM): she told me earlier in private
spies8hambone (10:34:29 PM): that she miscounted
spies8hambone (10:34:37 PM): and that savannah did have more votes
Spies8Awohali (10:34:38 PM): As am I... Although it will be for the first time.
spies8hambone (10:34:40 PM): but she got confused
spies8hambone (10:34:50 PM): so lets see what she says here
Spies8Awohali (10:34:52 PM): Did she provide reasoning for why she believed each person was voting Allan?
spies8hambone (10:35:00 PM): nope
spies8hambone (10:35:04 PM): i didnt ask that
Spies8Awohali (10:35:21 PM): I will be asking that she post examples of people posting or stating that they were voting for Allan...
Spies8Awohali (10:36:05 PM): I would find it suspect if she is not able to provide reasons behind her thoughts... Her miscounting is also making me feel uneasy.
spies8hambone (10:41:37 PM): mhm
spies8hambone (10:41:42 PM): right now my vote is on jenny for sure
Spies8Awohali (10:42:04 PM): I am carefully considering it, although I obviously do not know her as well as you yet and will need more time with her.
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spies8hambone (10:49:51 PM): she admits she messed up the votes now
spies8hambone (10:49:57 PM): so first she thought he was in danger
spies8hambone (10:50:05 PM): then she says it was savnnah who told her the vote count
spies8hambone (10:50:09 PM): and now she admits she messes it up
Spies8Awohali (10:50:40 PM): So she did not seem to be that concerned with the situation, otherwise she would have at least confirmed things herself.
spies8hambone (10:50:55 PM): mhm
spies8hambone (10:51:01 PM): exactly
spies8hambone (10:51:12 PM): and how convenient that the person who TOLD her the vote count
spies8hambone (10:51:13 PM): is dead
spies8hambone (10:51:15 PM): ... savannah
Spies8Awohali (10:51:59 PM): Yes... It is fairly convenient.
Spies8Awohali (10:52:59 PM): I am debating what a Spy could gain by revealing a Citizens role, though, as the Spies would already know, if Jenny is one.
spies8hambone (10:53:18 PM): im confused, what
spies8hambone (10:53:23 PM): ohhh
spies8hambone (10:53:36 PM): well it makes Jenny look good for saving a roled citizen
spies8hambone (10:53:39 PM): for one
Spies8Awohali (10:53:45 PM): I apologize... I did not word that as well as I could have. That is a valid opening point.
Spies8Awohali (10:53:58 PM): And she seems to have bought Allan' gratitude.
spies8hambone (10:54:06 PM): also
spies8hambone (10:54:11 PM): a huge point...
spies8hambone (10:54:22 PM): she knew that nita knew his role too
spies8hambone (10:54:31 PM): allan told both of them
spies8hambone (10:54:39 PM): so if allan suddenly got imprisoned
spies8hambone (10:54:48 PM): nita would know it was jenny
spies8hambone (10:54:57 PM): so she couldnt imprison him unless
spies8hambone (10:55:01 PM): everyone else knew he had a role
spies8hambone (10:55:20 PM): does that make sense?
Spies8Awohali (10:55:31 PM): ...I like the way that you think, Hambone.
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Spies8Awohali (10:56:12 PM): I am already feeling pretty good of the chances of a Spy being caught this round, now.
spies8hambone (10:56:13 PM): thanks
spies8hambone (10:56:24 PM): we've got a good team
spies8hambone (10:56:31 PM): i feel like
spies8hambone (10:56:35 PM): we've got VERY STRONG PLAYERS
spies8hambone (10:56:41 PM): and very WEAK players
spies8hambone (10:56:45 PM): we dont rly have in the middle types
spies8hambone (10:56:52 PM): so we're def. gonna do well
spies8hambone (10:57:05 PM): and hey, so far im 1 for 1 on my votes
Spies8Awohali (10:57:28 PM): Indeed, the weak ones, such as Magalie, can almost be ignored for the time being, although they will eventually weigh us down as more good players are eliminated.
spies8hambone (10:58:06 PM): yea
spies8hambone (10:58:16 PM): inactives are USUALLY citizens
spies8hambone (10:58:20 PM): but
spies8hambone (10:58:27 PM): getttin rid of them sometimes isnt the worst thing in the world
Spies8Awohali (10:58:42 PM): You are right there, it is partially why I cast a vote for Magalie last round.
spies8hambone (10:59:09 PM): makes sense
spies8hambone (10:59:26 PM): right now my top 4 are in no particular order Jenny Chance Claude and Magalie
spies8hambone (10:59:33 PM): Jenny cuz of the case on her i made
spies8hambone (10:59:43 PM): Chance and Claude cuz everyone wont shut up about those 2
spies8hambone (10:59:48 PM): and Magalie since ive not met her
spies8hambone (11:00:00 PM): ive not met Chance either for the record
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Spies8Awohali (11:00:36 PM): Your list is very similar to mine, too, then. Chance has done some odd things, this is certain
Spies8Awohali (11:01:01 PM): I find Claude more suspect than him, though, although they both need to be eliminated, if, for anything, to end the war.
spies8hambone (11:04:07 PM): i dont wanna kill off claude
spies8hambone (11:04:11 PM): and then find out he WAS a cit thoguh
spies8hambone (11:04:13 PM): though*
spies8hambone (11:04:15 PM): cuz of his role
spies8hambone (11:04:26 PM): even though his role is more beneficial to HIMSELF than it is the citizens
spies8hambone (11:04:35 PM): to me it seems like a spy role, not a cits
spies8hambone (11:04:41 PM): but obviously it can go either way
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Spies8Awohali (11:05:17 PM): Yes, that is what stopped me from voting for him last episode... And a few of us also discussed the exact same thing, that it is a role that benefits himself, not a specific team.
spies8hambone (11:05:28 PM): exactly
spies8hambone (11:05:37 PM): and thats why it could very well be a spies role
spies8hambone (11:05:44 PM): the way i see it:
Spies8Awohali (11:05:46 PM): I do not like his bully tactics that he employs to get rid of his suspects, though, and I would not mind eliminating him just to end that.
spies8hambone (11:05:56 PM): If Chance is voted out and he flips Spy, then Claude is a Cit
spies8hambone (11:06:01 PM): and the other way around too
spies8hambone (11:06:08 PM): i feel like one of them has gotta be a spy
spies8hambone (11:06:13 PM): and if not, then i hate them both
spies8hambone (11:06:15 PM): for sucking so hard
Spies8Awohali (11:06:50 PM): I would not necessarily say that... The force of their attacks against one another could be an extreme distancing operation. It is very unlikely, but I do not wish to rule it out, lest one or the other slip by, forgotten, later in the game.
spies8hambone (11:07:01 PM): ok
Spies8Awohali (11:07:11 PM): And I agree, if neither of them are Spies, they both are terrible.
spies8hambone (11:07:23 PM): lol yes
Spies8Awohali (11:07:55 PM): I am interested to see how their dynamic with Jjenny will be this episode. If she is Exiled and flips Spy, that could yield valuable information.
spies8hambone (11:08:26 PM): def
spies8hambone (11:08:39 PM): i feel like im pushing hard on jenny right now
spies8hambone (11:08:58 PM): i dont wanna pull an alexei -__-
Spies8Awohali (11:09:16 PM): He gave up, did he not?
spies8hambone (11:09:20 PM): not at alll!
spies8hambone (11:09:28 PM): he switched targets like 4 times
spies8hambone (11:09:33 PM): hoping ppl would join him
Spies8Awohali (11:09:48 PM): Ah... The desperation move. Yes, that is rarely a good thing.
spies8hambone (11:09:56 PM): hehe
Spies8Awohali (11:10:03 PM): I usually do not even decide who I am voting until the day of the Exile
spies8hambone (11:12:43 PM): so far both times
spies8hambone (11:12:47 PM): ive decided 2 days early
Spies8Awohali (11:13:11 PM): I am jealous of that; I do not enjoy not having any idea what I am doing
spies8hambone (11:13:19 PM): haha
spies8hambone (11:13:28 PM): well i feel like my tribe had way more suspicious people
spies8hambone (11:13:34 PM): tribe, lol
spies8hambone (11:13:41 PM): i keep forgettin this aint survivor
Spies8Awohali (11:13:58 PM): Ha! In some ways it is; we must outlive, outlast, and outwit the Spies.
Spies8Awohali (11:14:31 PM): Unfortunately, usually the people that outwit them do not get to outlive them or outlast them.
spies8hambone (11:19:26 PM): lol

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spies8jenny (11:10:00 PM): So any thoughts on all this?
spies8jenny is available (11:10:02 PM)
Spies8Awohali (11:10:29 PM): It depends on which 'this' we are talking about; the Magalie situation?
spies8jenny (11:10:42 PM): In general with what's come up.
spies8jenny is available (11:11:39 PM)
Spies8Awohali (11:11:43 PM): Well, I will be honest; I am fairly suspicious of how your revelation of Allan's role went down. I do not make hasty decisions, so you are currently in no danger of getting a vote from me, but I am interested in getting to know you so that I may get a solid read on the situation.
spies8jenny (11:12:17 PM): Yeah, thursday was not a fun night for me.
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Spies8Awohali (11:12:38 PM): I can't imagine that it was.
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spies8jenny (11:14:13 PM): Three cases, all of them ones I hate. Spent a while trying to even figure out where the Savanny case even came from, because as far as I could tell she was getting votes for listing who she was suspicious of, hoping that Al or Ni-Ni would come online so we could discuss if we should bring up Al's role or not, seeing if there was any case out there at all that I even remotely agreed with.
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Spies8Awohali (11:15:17 PM): Yes... I groaned at the thought of Savanmnah being the likely Exile target; it did not seem wie.
Spies8Awohali (11:15:23 PM): wise*
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spies8jenny (11:16:24 PM): An hour before exile, only half the team even being online at the time, I figured that was cutting it close enough if we were going to get votes off of Al, and apologizing to Savanny afterwards ahead of time in case it ended up turning into a bandwagon on her, which it did.
spies8jenny is available (11:17:51 PM)
spies8jenny (11:19:20 PM): Which really drives me nuts, because Al has been driving me bonkers ever since he told me his role and then preceded to do stuff that I can't even comprehend why he thought they were good ideas, and Savanny I had gotten along with the most, we always talked with each other when we were on, and we came to the same conclusions often about what was going on in the public chat at the time.
spies8jenny (11:20:08 PM): So I swear, if I find out Al is lying about his role or we get proof he's a spy? I'm exiling him so hard he'll be in spies7 wondering why there's constant talk of evil clowns.
spies8jenny (11:21:53 PM): And then after it's too late for it to even matter, Savanny tells me that SHE had a role too that she didn't want to claim because it was a messenger role that was rather pointless once everyone knew who it was. And then the next day I get even more annoyed by that because we could have still used that role to find out for sure if Al had a role or not!
spies8jenny (11:22:50 PM): Let's just say that when spies8 is over, and you guys are reading through all the old confessionals, there's a nice long rant waiting in mine for the start of episode 3.
Spies8Awohali (11:23:03 PM): When exactly did Savannah tell you that she had a role as well?
spies8jenny (11:23:15 PM): About 11, right as Sam was saying time was up.
spies8jenny (11:23:18 PM): She told Owen as well.
Spies8Awohali (11:23:45 PM): That was a rather silly time to wait to say so... She could have saved herself much sooner.
spies8jenny (11:24:08 PM): No here we go, it was actually while the exile was in motion, at 11 :20.
spies8jenny (11:24:43 PM): She said she didn't want to claim it, because of what the role was, and was hoping that we could turn it around and get votes on Stephi.
Spies8Awohali (11:25:28 PM): At least she was keeping in mind the importance of keeping roles secret... However there is a line where secrecy is outweighed by the need for survival.
spies8jenny (11:25:56 PM): Here we go, was looking through it again, she also felt that it wouldn't have mattered if she claimed since it was a role that could go either way alignment wise.
Spies8Awohali (11:26:09 PM): So that is one Citizen role gone, and we already have two other role claims with two additional roles being confirmed by Sam to exist.
spies8jenny (11:26:28 PM): Two confirmed by Sam?
spies8jenny (11:26:38 PM): Oh right, the exile blocker.
spies8jenny (11:26:45 PM): I forgot about that for a minute.
Spies8Awohali (11:26:45 PM): The Doctor being one, and the other being the fact that Chance was made immune from the last Exile.
spies8jenny (11:27:15 PM): Yeah I remembered the Doctor, forgot about Chance's exile blocking for a minute.
Spies8Awohali (11:27:46 PM): That is understandable; he was not on your team at the time.
Spies8Awohali (11:27:53 PM): This seems like an abundance of roles.
spies8jenny is available (11:27:54 PM)
spies8jenny (11:28:12 PM): That's fairly normal, there's usually a good amount.
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Spies8Awohali (11:29:10 PM): Indeed, but for 1 Cit role to be eliminated already... and two other roles having already been claimed. I do not like how early these roles are becoming public knowledge.
spies8jenny (11:30:50 PM): Not like I really wanted to bring it out, but I wasn't going to let the guy get himself exiled when he has the potential to be one of our stronger roles, and then after the fact go "Oh by the way, Al had a role. Yeah."
Spies8Awohali (11:31:30 PM): Yes, that, too, would have been bad. Unfortunately, if he does have a powerful role, the Spies now know it, and he will soon die anyway.
spies8jenny (11:31:55 PM): Well for the time being, it looks like they're wifoming themselves over if the doctor is protecting him or not.
spies8jenny (11:32:21 PM): Since he quite obviously wasn't the target last night phase.
Spies8Awohali (11:33:15 PM): That is possible, although it is pointless to spend too much time on things that we cannot know for sure.
Spies8Awohali (11:34:39 PM): Could you tell me who your top suspects were before the Savannah Exile, and how hard did you push them the night of the Exile?
spies8jenny (11:36:54 PM): Honestly, if it was my choice, I would have gotten rid of Zeddy that night. But there was no chance of him getting exiled that night unfortunately.

The night of exile was just a mess. Al has his first real chat with the group since returning from quitting, and promptly tells Hammy that he lied about how much he read into the Lexi case.

And then after that, I find out that Gabe isn't the only one looking into Savanny, and I have no idea where it's even coming from, and then somebody brings up Themby as a case, and I realize that it's going to be a very long night for me.
spies8jenny is available (11:38:10 PM)
spies8jenny (11:38:45 PM): I remember telling several people that I was not a fan of any of the cases that were coming up, to see what they said in response, and everyone sounded pretty set in their vote to my dismay.
Spies8Awohali (11:39:45 PM): Did you bring forth any evidence or reasons as to why they should vote people that you did suspect?
spies8jenny (11:41:37 PM): I had a few people agree that Stephi was strange, but they were more suspicious of Savanny then Stephi, for I don't even know why.

The Zeddy case for our group was like what Lucky and Claude were for you guys, argued up down left right and in 3D, and nobody wanted to go with it. Stephi was a more recent suspicion of mine and I certainly didn't have anything on her that was going to give me the ability to override three other cases.
spies8jenny is available (11:42:37 PM)
Spies8Awohali (11:42:45 PM): I see. So for the most part, people seemed fairly set in their ways in voting for Savannah?
spies8jenny (11:42:52 PM): Or Al.
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spies8jenny (11:43:09 PM): But especially on Savanny after the claim went out.
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Spies8Awohali (11:43:46 PM): I can see why... I am still confused as to why Savannah would allow that to happen to her and not role claim herself, after seeing how well it worked for Allan.
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spies8jenny (11:47:14 PM): After the votes were finalized, I pretty much spent the whole exile talking with Savanny saying our goodbyes, her telling me about her role, and joking about using kathie's cats to spy on the living players.
spies8jenny is available (11:48:44 PM)
Spies8Awohali (11:49:12 PM): Did it ever occur to you to ask if Savannah had any possible way of saving herself, knowing near the end that she was overwhelmingly the Exile choice?
spies8jenny is available (11:49:36 PM)
spies8jenny (11:50:28 PM): I told her several times before the deadline came, that if she had a role she should do it soon since time was running out. I think I forgot to say earlier, but that was part of the reason I thought an hour was cutting it close to bring up Al, I wanted to give her time to say something after it was out, since I had a feeling it would get ugly for her afterwards.
Spies8Awohali (11:51:22 PM): I can not imagine why she would roleclaim after the deadline, given those circumstances, then.
spies8jenny is available (11:53:26 PM)
spies8jenny (11:53:39 PM): [21:03] spies8jenny: Alright, well since you're apparently on the chopping block, I might as well ask. Did you get a role?
[21:03] spies8savannah: well there is still a chance i wont be exiled
[21:03] spies8savannah: so i dont think its smart to discuss that just yet
spies8jenny is available (11:53:40 PM)
spies8jenny (11:53:56 PM): [22:19] spies8jenny: Okies, now I'm really getting worried about you getting exiled after all that. That's the other reason I did it an hour before exile, in case you had something you needed to let out as well. One role claim is crazy enough. Two would have exploded our brains.
[22:19] spies8jenny: If we did it in the last 5 minutes.
[22:20] spies8savannah: let me see where votes are at
spies8jenny (11:54:25 PM): And after it was too late

[23:20] spies8jenny: I think this is probably the last chance you have to say if you had a role, if the event starting does not make that too late.
[23:20] spies8savannah: i did.
[23:20] spies8savannah: but its not important now lol
[23:20] spies8jenny: ...
[23:20] spies8jenny: YES IT WAAAAS
Spies8Awohali (11:56:11 PM): When she said this, " [21:03] spies8savannah: well there is still a chance i wont be exiled
[21:03] spies8savannah: so i dont think its smart to discuss that just yet " did that not sound to you like an implied role?
spies8jenny is available (11:56:23 PM)
spies8jenny (11:56:31 PM): It did actually, which is why I brought it up the second time after Al's came out.
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spies8jenny (11:58:07 PM): Exile comes around and she still hasn't done anything with it, and I figure she just must not have had anything, but I ask again while exile is going because what could it hurt.
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Spies8Awohali (11:58:42 PM): I think that had you shown that chat lnie to people considering voting her, though, that could ahve had the power to change some minds.
spies8jenny (11:58:53 PM): As I said earlier.

Thursday stunk.
Spies8Awohali (11:59:58 PM): It appears that way.
spies8jenny (12:00:03 AM): implying having a role vs an actual role claim? I was hoping Savanny would stay, and even I would have had to side with Al on that.
Spies8Awohali (12:00:27 AM): Savannah and Allan were not the only two choices available, though.
spies8jenny is available (12:01:07 AM)
spies8jenny (12:01:09 AM): Of course not, but with everyone rather set in their votes, it would have taken a "Darla will be behind a Carly exile" for anything to have budged.
spies8jenny (12:01:47 AM): Or something of equal major noteworthiness.
Spies8Awohali (12:02:05 AM): An implied roleclaim could have very well been enough. It certainly would not have hurt to try.
spies8jenny is available (12:13:59 AM)
spies8jenny (12:03:10 AM): From what I saw last game, implied roleclaims just meant more votes on them until they squealed.
spies8jenny (12:03:48 AM): The last thing I wanted was more votes on Savanny after all that.
spies8jenny is available (12:04:12 AM)
Spies8Awohali (12:04:27 AM): I imagine that this game is not the last game.
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spies8jenny (12:07:02 AM): What does this not being the last game have to do with anything?

And it does hurt if you're trying to convince people to go on someone else entierly and not vote her. Last time I saw an implied roleclaim come up in this group, people started voting and threatening to vote them until they fully claimed. And when I was hoping to get them off of her, and not wasting what little time we had trying to press for a roleclaim she didn't want to make, I didn't exactly think bringing up an implied roleclaim would do any favors.
spies8jenny is available (12:08:09 AM)
spies8jenny (12:08:22 AM): And dang it Al, stay online already! Why on earth are you logging in and then leaving 10 seconds later!
Spies8Awohali (12:08:32 AM): Because assuming that things in this game will go as they did in the last game is not a good idea. And had there been more heat on her, she would have had to fully roleclaim, and then she would have been better off, yes? Especially in the last 10 minutes or so, I can not understand the harm in releasing that chat line.
spies8jenny is available (12:09:45 AM)
spies8jenny (12:10:32 AM): Honestly I didn't put a whole lot of thought into that particular line. I just read it, saw that it implied a rold, and made sure to keep poking her about claiming if she had something. I didn't think for a moment that bringing it up in the chat would do any good.
spies8jenny is available (12:11:16 AM)
spies8jenny (12:11:17 AM): Challenge should be starting up in a couple minutes for us.
spies8jenny is available (12:12:13 AM)
Spies8Awohali (12:12:13 AM): I find it odd that it stood out to you as an implied role claim, and that you would then see it as not that important. And yes, our challenge should begin quite soon.
spies8jenny is available (12:12:28 AM)
spies8jenny (12:12:45 AM): in the fort and the confessional he says.
spies8jenny is available (12:13:04 AM)
spies8jenny (12:13:08 AM): If you're still awake when we're done, I'll be glad to talk to you about it more later.
spies8jenny is available (12:13:21 AM)
Spies8Awohali (12:14:05 AM): Indeed, depending on how long it takes, this may be possible. I will not be able to remain on line super late, though.
spies8jenny is available (12:14:34 AM)
spies8jenny (12:14:35 AM): Well I'm certainly on more often then Maggie is, so it shouldn't be hard to catch me again.
spies8jenny is available (12:14:46 AM)
Spies8Awohali (12:15:02 AM): That is very true; we shall have bountiful time to discuss these matters, I am certain.

[Awohali]

spies8cinnamyn (11:29:16 PM): aight awohali whatchu thinkin'
spies8cinnamyn (11:29:22 PM): cuz da ppl in da chat dont seem 2 want 2 talk
Spies8Awohali (11:29:44 PM): I do not like how Jenny handled Allan's roleclaim. I apologize for being less active in the chat, I am talking to Jenny attempting to get to know her better.
spies8cinnamyn (11:30:03 PM): i dont lyke it eitha
spies8cinnamyn (11:30:08 PM): i dont feel jenny n' nita followed thru
Spies8Awohali (11:30:23 PM): Indeed, I believe we are on the same page concerning her, from what was said in the chat.
Spies8Awohali (11:30:46 PM): Especially considering the two of them and Allan controlled the vote even if it had been as close as she thought it was, which it wasn't
spies8cinnamyn (11:31:13 PM): i mean really it wuz da wurst possible way 2 handle it
spies8cinnamyn (11:31:19 PM): lmbo
Spies8Awohali (11:31:45 PM): I am trying to think of a worse way... And you are right, I can not.
spies8cinnamyn (11:31:57 PM): no proactiveness frum jenny at all
spies8cinnamyn (11:32:08 PM): no conversashin between jenny n' nita 2 save allan
Spies8Awohali (11:32:15 PM): Not only did she out his role prematurely in a vote that he was not in any true danger of being eliminated, her actions lead to the bandwagonnig upon Savannah, who also had a role...
spies8cinnamyn (11:32:37 PM): i looked in da chat, she onlee menshioned her top suspect 2 ppl (steph) once after she claimed 4 allan
Spies8Awohali (11:32:39 PM): So now Allan will most likely be eliminated soon, if he is a Citizen with a true role
spies8cinnamyn (11:32:57 PM): da rest defected on 2 savannah, who she didnt think wuz a spy
Spies8Awohali (11:33:29 PM): Yes, hardly an ideal situation.
spies8cinnamyn (11:33:47 PM): i jus' dont get it, she thot themba, allan, n' savannah wuz cit
Spies8Awohali (11:33:51 PM): I am actually leaning towards voting her, even this early in the episode.
spies8cinnamyn (11:33:54 PM): yet didnt push n e 1 else
spies8cinnamyn (11:34:56 PM): wut do u think bout nita
Spies8Awohali (11:36:49 PM): Nita came across as odd... She pushed hard the idea that we should have immediately exiled Claude if we suspected him, even despite his roleclaim.
Spies8Awohali (11:37:11 PM): And she was also a bit... Not nice to Mary this afternoon.
spies8cinnamyn (11:37:21 PM): 2 things concern me bout her
spies8cinnamyn (11:37:27 PM): 1 wuz her passive aggressiveness 2 me
spies8cinnamyn (11:37:46 PM): she sed "u didnt post in da exile vote thred las' round, so i dont no y u voted margot. may b u shud do that frum now on.?"
spies8cinnamyn (11:37:55 PM): yet she didnt post her vote in da vote thred las' round eitha
spies8cinnamyn (11:38:19 PM): 2 wuz her kind of brushing off of any1 frum da old repubs dat came wit' her az suspishis
Spies8Awohali (11:38:48 PM): Speaking of roles, on a digression, I have not seen any role actions posted, and it is several hours after imprisonment... And Ah, that sounds like her personality perfectly... She may be a bit abrasive.
spies8cinnamyn (11:39:16 PM): spies8Nita: (11:11:15 PM) I ain't suspectin the other republicans that came here
spies8Nita: (11:11:26 PM) Jenny a little, told her I want to see more from her
spies8Nita: (11:11:33 PM) Rondak, same thing
spies8Nita: (11:11:40 PM) Allan, same thing
spies8Nita: (11:11:47 PM) Hambone, I think he doin fine
spies8cinnamyn (11:39:33 PM): she kind of sed "dont worry bout dem, i told dem i want 2 c more frum dem"
spies8cinnamyn (11:39:38 PM): dont no how dat makes dem n e less suspishis.?
spies8cinnamyn (11:39:50 PM): dat wuz all she sed bout dem
Spies8Awohali (11:40:38 PM): I do not like how she seems to trivialize peopleas "Same thing as _____", basically copying descriptions of people. She did that a lot in her post, too
spies8cinnamyn (11:41:01 PM): i dont no, jus' kind of put me off of her
Spies8Awohali (11:41:41 PM): Me as well. It is hard to tell how serious she is on maintainnig suspect lists.
spies8cinnamyn (11:42:23 PM): i jus' dont want dis 2 turn in2 a "us vs dem" type thing
spies8cinnamyn (11:42:43 PM): which it very well cud b if nita duznt luk at n e body but da old democratz, n' if we all suspect jenny but dey dont
spies8cinnamyn is available (11:49:36 PM)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1F_5-8xcF8
Spies8Awohali (11:49:44 PM): I agree with you there... Team warfare is certainly not the way to go... But Hambone certainly does suspect Jenny.
Spies8Awohali (11:50:06 PM): So it is not just us that find her actions as questionable
Spies8Awohali (11:50:31 PM): I am not sure if I was authorized to share that with you, but it will come out inevitably, anyway, I am sure.
spies8cinnamyn is available (11:53:40 PM)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1F_5-8xcF8
spies8cinnamyn (11:54:11 PM): naw i think he made a case on jenny las' round
Spies8Awohali (11:56:32 PM): Then I do not feel bad having shared that information.

[Awohali]

spies8Nita (1:30:23 AM): You think things go okay o got ideas for what can be done better?
Spies8Awohali (1:31:13 AM): I think that went rather well, after the initial confusion. I certainly do not trust Claude leading again, due to his connection.
Spies8Awohali (1:31:26 AM): It is fortunate that you were able to take the reigns.
spies8Nita (1:31:51 AM): I think he good at doin what you tell him, maybe he better as a follower
Spies8Awohali (1:32:06 AM): I agree, though I do not doubt that he would disagree.
spies8Nita (1:32:24 AM): I like how you say that
spies8Nita (1:32:28 AM): You probably right
Spies8Awohali (1:33:06 AM): In Claude's mind, he is in charge.. .We might have to be careful in how we let him know that he does not need to be for these challenges
spies8Nita (1:33:26 AM): Maybe someone step up before he do
spies8Nita (1:33:31 AM): He quick to say " I wanna lead"
spies8Nita (1:34:25 AM): It gonna be interestin to see who we nominate
Spies8Awohali (1:34:39 AM): Yes... I nominate... Anyone that has a stable connection over him
spies8Nita (1:34:39 AM): Real difficult decision

[Awohali]

spies8mary (1:26:38 AM): Are you there?
Spies8Awohali (1:27:00 AM): I am indeed, I was catching up momentarily with IRL happenings, but I am here now.
spies8mary (1:27:12 AM): I am very tired. What a long day.
spies8mary (1:27:16 AM): How are you?
Spies8Awohali (1:27:37 AM): Similar to you; tired! Challenges are always a bit stressful
spies8mary (1:27:54 AM): I'm glad to be alive but I feel bad for Gabriel.
Spies8Awohali (1:28:19 AM): As do I... It is a shame to see him go, but at the same time, better him than ourselves, right?
spies8mary (1:28:29 AM): Yeah.
spies8mary (1:29:07 AM): I would like to avenge him. Our team has been wrong twice and I would like us to get a Spy.
spies8mary (1:29:15 AM): But we may not even get the chance.
Spies8Awohali (1:29:24 AM): I think that we stand a good chance this episode, if, as you mention, we are allowed to.
Spies8Awohali (1:29:45 AM): Have you spoken with all of the newcomers by now?
spies8mary (1:30:18 AM): A little. Allan, Nita, Jenny, Hambone, who is the fifth?
Spies8Awohali (1:30:50 AM): Rondak?
spies8mary (1:31:19 AM): Oh yeah I talked to him a bit yesterday.
Spies8Awohali (1:31:50 AM): I have not yet spoken with him formally, though he seems interesting. I m most interested in Jenny at the moment, for her actions last episode.
spies8mary (1:32:01 AM): Her claim for Allan?
Spies8Awohali (1:32:39 AM): Precisely... She has admitted that she was msitaken regarding the danger he was in, and that she did not even confirm the votes for him/Savannah, but isntead took Savannah's word for it.
spies8mary (1:32:55 AM): He doesn't seem to mind but it was weird.
spies8mary (1:33:16 AM): He seems like a new player.
spies8mary (1:33:34 AM): I would be surprised if a new spy gave up their role that easily but I really can't say for sure.
Spies8Awohali (1:33:48 AM): I have not yet had the pleasure of speaking with him on AIM, but I trust your judgment. And yes, I would doubt this too, although it is possible.
spies8mary (1:34:02 AM): Like Claude, his claim endangered the doctor unless he is a Spy.
spies8mary (1:34:23 AM): But I guess not everyone is logical nor thinks things through.
spies8mary (1:34:50 AM): If Jenny was a spy, wouldn't Allan possibly have been Imprisoned?
Spies8Awohali (1:34:54 AM): Yes... Even those who claim to be nothing but logic.
spies8mary (1:35:00 AM): Or maybe he was and that was the save.
Spies8Awohali (1:35:05 AM): And for this question, Hambone had an interesting idea
Spies8Awohali (1:35:44 AM): Nita and Jenny were the only ones that knew prior to the roleclaim... Jenny announcing it could have been away to widen the possibilities of who would have killed him.
spies8mary (1:35:52 AM): Right.
Spies8Awohali (1:35:59 AM): Otherwise, Nita could have blown the whistle on her.
spies8mary (1:36:16 AM): But public also means doctor knows.
Spies8Awohali (1:36:17 AM): Unfortunately, the hole I see there is that neither Nita nor Allan died tonight.
Spies8Awohali (1:36:38 AM): Right, and that might be why it wasn't tonight, in anticipation that the Doctor would save him.
Spies8Awohali (1:36:55 AM): If Allan were to go next Imprisonment, I would be extremely suspicious of Jenny.
spies8mary (1:37:07 AM): Cinnamyn changed her mind on Chance over the past few days. How do you feel about Chance?
Spies8Awohali (1:37:42 AM): I have actually not seen him hardly at all, since his vote was taken away... I am still wary of him, but more suspicious of Claude. Chance is certainly not off of my hook, though.
spies8mary (1:37:50 AM): Ok.
spies8mary (1:38:05 AM): And Magalie continues to disappoint.
Spies8Awohali (1:38:11 AM): Of course...
Spies8Awohali (1:38:20 AM): I hope that she can turn it around, I truly do
spies8mary (1:38:33 AM): I think that's asking too much.
spies8mary (1:38:45 AM): Someone said today that she just blatantly copied someone else's suspicion.
spies8mary (1:39:09 AM): On Stephanie, I think.
Spies8Awohali (1:39:26 AM): I remember seeing that... It is something that I can not honestly see a Spy doing. It seems to blatantly reckless and disinterested
spies8mary (1:39:42 AM): Magalie's never met Stephanie. They've been on opposite teams the entire time.
Spies8Awohali (1:40:13 AM): It is Stephanie? I may need to revisit this news....
Spies8Awohali (1:40:36 AM): Maybe it is not as innocent as I first imagined.
spies8mary (1:41:18 AM): spies8mary: On Stephanie, I think.
spies8mary: Magalie's never met Stephanie. They've been on opposite teams the entire time.
spies8mary (1:41:26 AM): Sorry, I was disconnected.
Spies8Awohali (1:42:33 AM): That is quite all right.
Spies8Awohali (1:42:39 AM): That is an interesting situation...
Spies8Awohali (1:43:02 AM): Would an inactive Spy be reckless enough to copy another Citizen's suspiciouns, having never met her? Or a fellow Spy's, for that matter?
spies8mary (1:43:21 AM): You would think not.
spies8mary (1:44:07 AM): I think Nita is probably ok.
spies8mary (1:45:01 AM): If she is a Spy she is coming up with a lot of decent looking evidence.
spies8mary (1:45:13 AM): And should be kept around.
Spies8Awohali (1:45:43 AM): Yes, I agree, although she is a bit brusque, she seems to be of good intentions so far.
Spies8Awohali (1:45:49 AM): I am a fan of Hambone so far, as well.
spies8mary (1:46:09 AM): I haven't learned much about him.
Spies8Awohali (1:46:48 AM): I was able to talk to him tonight and also this afternoon; he seems to be pretty insightful so far, so you and he would get along well
spies8mary (1:47:41 AM): I don't know what to make of Rondak.
spies8mary (1:47:58 AM): He feels like he is hiding something, but it could just be his roleplay.
spies8mary (1:48:19 AM): He doesn't seem to be forthcoming unless pressed for information.
Spies8Awohali (1:49:01 AM): That could prove to be unfortunate. I would like to speak with him to see how bad it is.
Spies8Awohali (1:49:19 AM): Some people may be less voluntary with information, but Spies have more to gain from it.
spies8mary (1:49:54 AM): Nita seemed to find Claude, Cory and Cinnamyn most suspicious, I believe.
spies8mary (1:50:07 AM): And Magalie.
Spies8Awohali (1:50:46 AM): Her post did seem to indicate that, although there were so many "same as this other person" listings that I was somewhat disappointed.
spies8mary (1:50:55 AM): Cory seems to have gotten very quiet and somewhat vague lately.
Spies8Awohali (1:51:15 AM): Yes... I expected that it would only be an Episode 2 thing, but it has lasted today, as well.
spies8mary (1:52:13 AM): Have you seen Claude express another suspicion today?
spies8mary (1:52:26 AM): Or is he waiting for Chance?
Spies8Awohali (1:52:35 AM): I have not... He, in his own words, has stated that we have no choice but to Ecile him or Chance...
spies8mary (1:52:45 AM): Yes. I don't like that at all.
Spies8Awohali (1:53:14 AM): Me neither. I was going to vote for him, but I am actually planning to not do that now because of that statement, even though that seems counterintuitive.
spies8mary (1:53:24 AM): I think he is embracing his character and using it to accomplish goals. Or else he's delusional.
Spies8Awohali (1:53:51 AM): I think it is a mixture of both... I am still waiting for night actions to be posted so that we can know who he used his role on last night.
Spies8Awohali (1:54:01 AM): Actually... Why wait? I will ask him now.
spies8mary (1:54:14 AM): Good point.
Spies8Awohali (1:54:28 AM): I am not sure why I did not think to ask him myself until now...
Spies8Awohali (1:56:39 AM):
spies8claude (1:55:56 AM): Obviously I'm not concerned with keeping it a secret.

spies8claude (1:56:07 AM): I used my Veto ability on Chance, to prevent him from voting myself or Jasmine.
spies8mary (1:56:55 AM): Jasmine is on the other team.
Spies8Awohali (1:57:23 AM): Not really any surprises here. And yes, I am awaiting an answer on that
Spies8Awohali (1:57:59 AM):
spies8claude (1:57:48 AM): ...

spies8claude (1:57:54 AM): fuck me for forgetting that one
spies8mary (1:58:19 AM): Suspect.
Spies8Awohali (1:58:49 AM): For someon that talks of being so calculated and careful, yes.

[Awohali]

spies8Nita (10:09:29 PM): Awohali
spies8Nita (10:09:30 PM): i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/SorintheSeeker/easypuz2.jpg
Spies8Awohali (10:09:30 PM): Osiyo, everyone.
spies8claude (10:09:35 PM): Ooooh
spies8jenny (10:09:36 PM): I'm not sure what the x's are for.
spies8claude (10:09:39 PM): Something I can actually help in
spies8mary (10:09:41 PM): Ignore the Xs
spies8claude (10:09:42 PM): they're the words.
spies8claude (10:09:46 PM): Oh?
spies8mary (10:09:54 PM): I think there's a candle missing up top.
spies8mary (10:10:05 PM): So that's the 6 letter word and the blue letter is E
Spies8Awohali (10:10:27 PM): What have we solved so far?
spies8mary (10:10:33 PM): If a tray is missing, the blue letter is T
spies8jenny (10:10:36 PM): Just candle for the second word
spies8cinnamyn (10:10:43 PM): bell? on da lef' side by da scale
spies8Nita (10:10:45 PM): So we tryin to find the missin objects?
spies8claude (10:10:49 PM): that's not enough letters for word 2
spies8claude (10:10:52 PM): whould be 'candles'
spies8mary (10:10:56 PM): One side of the scale is missing. What is that called?
spies8mary (10:10:58 PM): Tray?
spies8jenny (10:11:07 PM): Could the third one be seat?
spies8mary (10:11:08 PM): No, a candle is missing just one.
spies8claude (10:11:09 PM): yeah, tray is probably #1 anyway
spies8Nita (10:11:09 PM): No es 6 letters
spies8claude (10:11:17 PM): oh nm
spies8claude (10:11:20 PM): blue block confused me
spies8cinnamyn (10:11:23 PM): well, da armorz missin' a head
spies8claude (10:11:29 PM): helm probably
spies8cinnamyn (10:11:37 PM): o nice
spies8claude (10:11:44 PM): maybe anyway.
spies8jenny (10:11:50 PM): that maeks more sense then seat
spies8cory (10:11:54 PM): 2nd word candle?
spies8mary (10:11:55 PM): A head or helm is missing
spies8mary (10:11:56 PM): H
spies8claude (10:11:58 PM): the helm is sitting on that stool though.
spies8Nita (10:12:02 PM): I think it be head
spies8Nita (10:12:10 PM): What the ukelele missin? Strings?
spies8mary (10:12:19 PM): It's Xed out.
spies8claude (10:12:20 PM): ukelele has an X, so I don't think it counts.
Spies8Awohali (10:12:23 PM): That is a lute, so it would have courses
Spies8Awohali (10:12:25 PM): Not strings.
spies8mary (10:12:36 PM): A handle might be missing.. A
spies8claude (10:12:41 PM): I think there is a sword missing it's hilt
spies8claude (10:12:43 PM): on the flor
spies8claude (10:12:44 PM): floor
spies8jenny (10:12:47 PM): ae
spies8jenny (10:12:48 PM): axe
spies8hambone (10:12:48 PM) has entered the room.
spies8hambone (10:12:52 PM): my AIM is rly messin up
spies8Nita (10:12:56 PM): The scale, it missni a dish?
spies8jenny (10:12:59 PM): on the far left the axe head thing is missing
spies8Nita (10:13:08 PM): Why that crown floatin?
spies8cory (10:13:08 PM): 3rd to last might be 'map'
spies8mary (10:13:12 PM): handle of the sword?
spies8cory (10:13:13 PM): Or cup
spies8jenny (10:13:22 PM): or cup...
spies8claude (10:13:29 PM): hmm..probably cup?
spies8cinnamyn (10:13:34 PM): iz da present missin' a bow.? or duz it have one
spies8cinnamyn (10:13:37 PM): i cant tell
spies8claude (10:13:48 PM): seems like it has one...idk
spies8jenny (10:13:48 PM): I think it does
spies8claude (10:13:55 PM): spioder has no web
spies8Nita (10:14:05 PM): Where the spider?
spies8mary (10:14:05 PM): yes
spies8mary (10:14:07 PM): B
spies8cinnamyn (10:14:07 PM): yea in upper left
spies8claude (10:14:08 PM): well, not near it anyway..
spies8Nita (10:14:13 PM): I see it
spies8mary (10:14:14 PM): TEHAB
spies8cory (10:14:15 PM): Web is up top
spies8Nita (10:14:26 PM): Somethin missin a handle?
spies8Nita (10:14:30 PM): For the last word?
spies8mary (10:14:31 PM): What is _ L _ _ _
spies8claude (10:14:32 PM): yeah, sword
spies8claude (10:14:37 PM): can't figure out the l word.
spies8jenny (10:14:44 PM): Ugh, this is a pain.
spies8claude (10:14:53 PM): it's interesting
spies8jenny (10:14:59 PM): wait, seat?
spies8jenny (10:15:10 PM): No wait I said seat.
spies8cinnamyn (10:15:21 PM): wut 1z do we think we have
spies8cinnamyn (10:15:23 PM): so far
spies8cory (10:15:28 PM): Is that thing on the left a scale?
spies8cory (10:15:34 PM): If so it looks like it's missing the left half
spies8claude (10:15:34 PM): We're pretty sure on tray, candle, handle.
spies8mary (10:15:36 PM): The tray is missing
spies8cinnamyn (10:15:41 PM): ok
spies8mary (10:15:44 PM): I think Web is right.
spies8Nita (10:15:53 PM): Usin this
spies8mary (10:15:54 PM): And Head or Helm
spies8Nita (10:15:54 PM): www.zachwordunscrambler.com/cgi-bin/unscrambler.pl
spies8Nita (10:16:01 PM): We use * for a letter we no know
spies8Nita (10:16:07 PM): Till we fin one that make sense?
spies8jenny (10:16:13 PM): sure.
spies8Nita (10:16:15 PM): So we got
spies8Nita (10:16:19 PM): T for tray?
spies8Nita (10:16:22 PM): E for candle?
spies8jenny (10:16:24 PM): Tray
Candle
Helm?
spies8claude (10:16:25 PM): I'll be kind of surprised if sorin allows that.
spies8Nita (10:16:25 PM): H for head?
spies8mary (10:16:31 PM): yes
spies8Nita (10:16:35 PM): P for cup o B for web?
spies8Nita (10:16:38 PM): y A for handle?
spies8mary (10:16:42 PM): B for web i think
spies8Nita (10:16:57 PM): I think we wrong cause none of these makin sense
spies8jenny (10:17:02 PM): what letters we got then

tehpab
spies8claude (10:17:10 PM): Can't have both P and B
spies8claude (10:17:12 PM): either/or
spies8jenny (10:17:18 PM): oh whoops
spies8claude (10:17:29 PM): So it's either tehba_ or tehpa_
spies8jenny (10:17:35 PM): tehpa
or
tehba

We're still missing a letter
spies8Nita (10:17:48 PM): It look like neither from the scrambler
Spies8Awohali (10:18:06 PM): tehba could be Bathe. I do not see a word in tehpa yet.
spies8jenny (10:18:20 PM): Try the word bathe then.
spies8claude (10:18:32 PM): I'm pretty sure a cup is missing
spies8claude (10:18:40 PM): there are 7 seats and less than 7 cups
spies8cinnamyn (10:18:41 PM): bathe onlee 5 letterz
Spies8Awohali (10:18:42 PM): Do not know where to input it, for I have not read the post having only recently got online.
spies8hambone (10:19:07 PM): yeah im lost
spies8jenny (10:19:10 PM): Yeah it's a 6 letter word, whoops.
spies8Nita (10:19:10 PM): blade?
spies8Nita (10:19:17 PM): For 2nd to last word?
spies8jenny (10:19:18 PM): that could be it
spies8claude (10:19:41 PM): tehbab? tehpab?
spies8claude (10:19:44 PM): Doubtful.
spies8mary (10:19:46 PM): Where is a blade missing?
spies8cinnamyn (10:19:52 PM): ear.! da upper left pig missin' a ear
spies8cinnamyn (10:19:54 PM): or did we no dat
spies8jenny (10:20:00 PM):
teheba?
spies8Nita (10:20:08 PM): No words wit that
Spies8Awohali (10:20:12 PM): Ear replacing web?
spies8jenny (10:20:21 PM): what pig?
Spies8Awohali (10:20:25 PM): Would leave us with tehera
spies8claude (10:20:26 PM): what 'upper left pig'
spies8cinnamyn (10:20:33 PM): da pigz on top
spies8Nita (10:20:37 PM): Si
spies8claude (10:20:38 PM): oh
spies8jenny (10:20:39 PM): oh i see it!
spies8Nita (10:20:39 PM): One missin an ear
spies8jenny (10:20:39 PM): yeah!
spies8jenny (10:20:42 PM): ear over cup
spies8claude (10:20:42 PM): That's definitely it.
spies8mary (10:21:09 PM): TEHRA ?
spies8jenny (10:21:10 PM): tehrba
spies8claude (10:21:10 PM): So now we're at T,E,H,R,_,A?
spies8Nita (10:21:11 PM): bather bertha breath
spies8jenny (10:21:26 PM): breath
spies8cory (10:21:30 PM): Breath, yeah
spies8claude (10:21:31 PM): how do we still have a B?
spies8claude (10:21:34 PM): oh..blade
spies8mary (10:21:35 PM): Where is a blade missing?
spies8jenny (10:21:35 PM): blade
spies8claude (10:21:42 PM): The pike-thing on the left
spies8claude (10:21:47 PM): Breath seems correct.
spies8jenny (10:21:52 PM): compared to the axe thing on the right
spies8jenny (10:21:57 PM): I've posted breath.
spies8cory (10:21:58 PM): It is missing its blade
spies8jenny (10:22:29 PM): Come on... come on...
spies8jenny (10:22:31 PM): be right...
spies8jenny (10:23:21 PM): Do we have to alert sam? I wouldn't think so, but I'm not sure.
sorintheseeker (10:23:24 PM): Breath is correct!
spies8cinnamyn (10:23:28 PM): yea.!!!!!!!
spies8claude (10:23:29 PM): Huzzah.
Spies8Awohali (10:23:29 PM): Nice.
spies8cory (10:23:30 PM): Awesome
spies8hambone (10:23:33 PM): wow
sorintheseeker (10:23:35 PM): Congratulations Democrats you have completed the first part of the challenge.
spies8jenny (10:23:38 PM): YAAAAY!
spies8jenny (10:23:53 PM): I hope the republicans took forever getting breath to make up for our unicorn issues.
spies8claude (10:23:56 PM): Is that it for tonight?
sorintheseeker (10:23:58 PM): Unfortunately, the Republicans completed it 25 minutes ago.
spies8claude (10:24:02 PM): lol
spies8cinnamyn (10:24:04 PM): lmbooooo
spies8jenny (10:24:04 PM): well dang it.
sorintheseeker (10:24:10 PM): Because of this, you must wait 15 minutes after they receive the next part of the puzzle.
spies8jenny (10:24:17 PM): Better then 25 minutes.
Spies8Awohali (10:24:21 PM): That is unfortunate.
sorintheseeker (10:24:22 PM): The next part of the puzzle will be posted for you at 11:15 PM CDT.
spies8jenny (10:24:28 PM): That dumb unicorn killed us.
spies8hambone (10:24:31 PM): at that time we'll kick ass
spies8hambone (10:24:47 PM): my internet was glitching on me otherwise i wouldve helped on part2
spies8Nita (10:24:52 PM): Democrats we just gettin warmed up
spies8Nita (10:24:57 PM): Strategy chat?
spies8jenny (10:25:01 PM): Sure.
spies8cinnamyn (10:25:02 PM): we lurin' em in wit a false sense of security
spies8jenny (10:25:19 PM): We definitely need somone to be the leader for this, we got too many people yelling directions during the unicorn round.
spies8Nita (10:25:23 PM): Who gonna be here at 11:15 CDT?
spies8jenny (10:25:27 PM): I'll be here.
Spies8Awohali (10:25:31 PM): I shall be on for that.
spies8claude (10:25:32 PM): I will be here.
spies8cinnamyn (10:25:33 PM): imma b here
spies8cory (10:25:35 PM): I'll be here.
spies8Nita (10:25:49 PM): Excelente
spies8Nita (10:25:58 PM): Who good at word puzzles?
spies8cory (10:26:01 PM): Not me.
spies8jenny (10:26:05 PM): Sometimes.
spies8claude (10:26:06 PM): Me!
spies8hambone (10:26:18 PM): im good at them
spies8Nita (10:26:32 PM): Rondak, Mary, Gertrude, Cinnamyn?
spies8Nita (10:26:35 PM): Awohali?
spies8cory (10:26:39 PM): I mean I'll try to help, but...
spies8hambone (10:26:39 PM): ill be here
spies8cinnamyn (10:26:42 PM): im betta at wurdz den numberz n' shit
spies8rondak (10:26:44 PM): No, I will not be here.
spies8cinnamyn (10:26:45 PM): or logic
Spies8Awohali (10:26:50 PM): It will depend, for me, on whether or not I am alone here, for at the moment I am not, and thus can not concentrate fully.
spies8Nita (10:26:54 PM): Who got at logic?
spies8Nita (10:26:56 PM): good at
spies8rondak (10:26:56 PM): I will be sleeping.
spies8jenny (10:27:25 PM): I want to say I'm good with logic puzzles, but it depends on what they're asking.
spies8Nita (10:27:28 PM): I'm tryin to figure out people's strengths so if we have to make quick decision or appoint a leader we know what to do
spies8Nita (10:28:04 PM): Biggest question - who interested in leadin, who ain't interested?
spies8Nita (10:28:12 PM): For any challenge, not just the next one
Spies8Awohali (10:28:14 PM): I would prefer not leading anything, so that I may concentrate more on the actual puzzles themselves
spies8jenny (10:28:14 PM): I wouldn't mind doing it.
spies8claude (10:28:17 PM): I am.
Spies8Awohali (10:28:19 PM): Rather than who is doing what.
spies8claude (10:28:42 PM): Though I agree with Awohlia.
spies8cory (10:28:45 PM): If we get another picture thing like we did before I wouldn't mind directing that
spies8cory (10:28:48 PM): But puzzles aren't my forte
spies8Nita (10:29:06 PM): What kind of puzzles we think gonna be out there?
spies8Nita (10:29:10 PM): We got an art one, a word one
spies8cory (10:29:12 PM): Numbes
spies8cory (10:29:14 PM): numbers
spies8Nita (10:29:22 PM): There probably be logic, numbers, creative
spies8jenny (10:29:24 PM): I think our unicorn looks better.
spies8claude (10:29:28 PM): Hopefully not more painting But I'm sure we'll get some kind of number problem and logic problem.
spies8cory (10:29:32 PM): Maybe a scavenger hunt
spies8cory (10:29:38 PM): Though we kind of did that already
spies8Nita (10:29:42 PM): Who good at googlin?
spies8Nita (10:29:49 PM): Y who ain't good at googlin?
spies8claude (10:29:50 PM): Who isn't
spies8Nita (10:29:57 PM): Someone who got a slow computer
spies8cory (10:29:58 PM): Lol what Claude said
spies8cinnamyn (10:29:59 PM): im gud at googlin @ sum hot menz if dat wut u askin
spies8cory (10:30:03 PM): I'm pretty good with the google
spies8Nita (10:30:22 PM): My computer, it like to get hot y shut down
Spies8Awohali (10:30:23 PM): Is there any reason why our unicorn is staring at a perverse formation of stars?
spies8claude (10:30:44 PM): Unicorn pr0n?
spies8jenny (10:30:58 PM): That's what killed us, we were too fancy.
spies8hambone (10:31:01 PM): oh yeah i can explain that
spies8hambone (10:31:07 PM): well the unicorn got a little experimental
spies8hambone (10:31:16 PM): he liked both genders
spies8hambone (10:31:23 PM): or should i say...... SHE
spies8Nita (10:31:24 PM): I be back round 10:30 cst
spies8cinnamyn (10:31:24 PM): how cum sam made us change our grass but dey're moon iz ok
Spies8Awohali (10:31:35 PM): That is most peculiar.
spies8jenny (10:32:05 PM): I have no idea.
spies8hambone (10:32:16 PM): and the tree
spies8hambone (10:32:17 PM): and the tail
Spies8Awohali (10:32:22 PM): Since we are currently on a lull of the challenge, would everyone feel comfortable moving the discussion towards suspicions? This challenge is to last three days, so we must find time to have game-talk in between challenges.
spies8hambone (10:32:23 PM): different shades of the same color
spies8Nita (10:32:29 PM) has left the room.
spies8jenny (10:32:43 PM): I'd ask sammy about it.
spies8jenny (10:32:56 PM): Might be easiest to post in the thread about it.
spies8cinnamyn (10:33:04 PM): nah ill let it go, wutz dun iz dun
spies8cinnamyn (10:33:17 PM): n' i agree wit' awohali
Spies8Awohali (10:33:34 PM): I will assume that this is OK then. Jenny, could you explain to me who you thought was planning to vote for Allan when you roleclaimed for him?
spies8jenny (10:33:40 PM): To be fair, our unicorn is rather purple.
spies8jenny (10:34:00 PM): Darn it, I had it counted up for Hammy earlier, now I have to go get it again.
spies8jenny (10:34:14 PM): Oh wait, no I don't I never closed it, YAY!
Spies8Awohali (10:34:20 PM): I apologize. I would just like to understand your thoughts at the time
spies8jenny (10:36:07 PM): Alright, going over it again, it looked like

Kitty, Dane, Hammy, and Themby.

were voting on Al. And I had been talking to Savanny at the time, and she told me she counted 3 votes on herself. She must have missed some, and I didn't bother to double check since I was trying to figure out if it was possible to get a massive vote change off of Al, Savanny, and Themby since I didn't agree with any of those.
Spies8Awohali (10:36:41 PM): And do you have reasons why it looked like these people were voting for Allan? I.E. Posts or chat lines?
spies8jenny (10:37:07 PM): Partially looking over the voting thread, partially what was being said in the chat leading up to when I decided to put the claim out there.
Spies8Awohali (10:37:49 PM): Would you perhaps mind placing these examples into a separate thread so that people can see why you felt the roleclaim was necessary?
spies8jenny (10:38:32 PM): Dane and Hammy I already knew was on Al because of his bit over lying about how much he read the case on Lexi, Kitty made a comment about voting Al because of what he said earlier, and Themby I saw in the vote thread.
Spies8Awohali (10:39:36 PM): So this is 4 votes, 2 hours before the Exile... I am not sure whether or not this was a wsie decision, given the circumstances and timing. Do you stand by it after the fact?
spies8jenny (10:39:44 PM): Add that onto possible surprise votes that nobody knew was going to come up, and it wasn't exactly doing anything for my health.
spies8jenny (10:40:53 PM): Even after checking over it again, it looked like the vote was 4 on Al, and 5 on Savanny, so I still don't think it was a horrible idea to do so, since all it would have taken was a single vote change that nobody knew was coming.
spies8jenny (10:41:28 PM): Although it does explain why trying to switch to Stephie didn't work out as well as I hoped, I really thought there was a bigger lead at the time.
Spies8Awohali (10:41:47 PM): I can understand this position, however two hours is a bit premature, I would think.
spies8jenny (10:41:53 PM): Two hours?
spies8jenny (10:42:00 PM): It was only an hour before.
spies8jenny (10:42:20 PM): I did it at about 10 pm my time, and exile was at 11.
Spies8Awohali (10:42:34 PM): Hambone mentioned this afternoon while we discussed it in this chat room that someone in the log mentioned it being in two hours, so my apologies if I am incorrect there.
spies8jenny (10:42:47 PM): Yeah he said that to me too, not sure where two hours came up.
spies8hambone (10:42:47 PM): who the hell is Kitty
spies8jenny (10:42:52 PM): Kiara.
spies8hambone (10:42:57 PM): ive never met her
spies8jenny (10:43:27 PM): She was around before exile that night, although I remember you didn't get there until it was time for exile, so that would do it.
spies8cinnamyn (10:43:44 PM): jenny i dont want 2 sound lyke a broken record but my issue cumz wit u not takin' n e proactive meashures 2 keep allan save (ie suspectin' sum1 else n' pushin dem) n' insted only roleclaimed
Spies8Awohali (10:44:22 PM): I am with Cinnamyn in that regard. It seems as if there would have been a better way to go about attempting to help Allan out.
spies8jenny (10:44:32 PM): What exactly was I going to do? The biggest thing that had come up about him had only happened a few hours beforehand, when Al brought up lying about how much he went over the Lexi case, to which everyone started to go into "Lynch All Liars" mode.
Spies8Awohali (10:45:30 PM): I just think that it is dangerous that so many roles have been publicly announced so early.
spies8hambone (10:45:35 PM): i just think u shouldve looked at the votes before u revealed
spies8hambone (10:45:40 PM): and not taken savannahs word
spies8hambone (10:45:48 PM): because 3 of the 5 ppl who didnt post their votes
spies8hambone (10:45:52 PM): were Allan Yourself and Nita
spies8hambone (10:45:58 PM): and U and Nita both knew he had a role
spies8hambone (10:46:03 PM): so obvs u 2 and HIMSELF wouldnt vote for allan
Spies8Awohali (10:46:11 PM): Hambone makes a VERY important point here...
spies8cinnamyn (10:46:44 PM): i also think dere shud have been more coversashin between u n' nita. if u 2 put ur vote on da same persun den allan cud have been safe (along wit' allan votin' sum1)
spies8hambone (10:46:45 PM): also, Savannah didnt even vote for Allan, even though she was obviously screwed
spies8jenny (10:46:57 PM): Ni-Ni wasn't even on at the time.
spies8jenny (10:47:01 PM): Or Al.
spies8hambone (10:47:07 PM): but they wouldnt vote for him
Spies8Awohali (10:47:12 PM): They were both obviously not voting for Allan though.,
spies8hambone (10:47:15 PM): she knew his role and he's himself
Spies8Awohali (10:47:24 PM): Or at least we hope that he is himself.
spies8hambone (10:47:27 PM):
Spies8Awohali (10:47:32 PM): Otherwise we have a whole new set of probl;ems.
spies8hambone (10:47:33 PM): AWOOOOHALLLLIIII = Al
Spies8Awohali (10:47:49 PM): Should I be furry with a large nose, then?
spies8cinnamyn (10:48:30 PM): lmbo
spies8hambone (10:49:05 PM): what lmbo
spies8hambone (10:49:11 PM): what is that
spies8cinnamyn (10:49:19 PM): laffin my butt off
spies8hambone (10:49:22 PM): ohhh
Spies8Awohali (10:49:26 PM): It sounds painful.
spies8cinnamyn (10:49:37 PM): not "in my blakk opinion", contrary 2 wut mary will tell u
spies8jenny (10:49:39 PM): I think you lost me on that one.

And great, so I screwed up with the vote count. I was hoping Al would come on himself and say something before exile, but an hour before it was cutting it close already, and I was sure that he was ahead in votes at the time. Turns out I was wrong about that it seems, but I thought he was, and it would have been absolutely stupid to just let a person that had claimed a potential town role to me get himself exiled because he was being moody the last few days.
spies8jenny (10:50:31 PM): And when Al came on a couple hours after exile ended, he read up on what happened and said thanks to me for doing so.
spies8cinnamyn (10:51:23 PM): aight den jenny who do u suspect on our team rite now
Spies8Awohali (10:51:28 PM): I would just expect that more care would be given before announcing someone else's role... At the very least, checking the vote count yourself rather than relying one someone else's count
spies8cinnamyn (10:51:30 PM): not who iz a cit
spies8jenny (10:54:32 PM): I still don't see why you're upset over me wanting to figure out who makes the most sense to be a citizen.

Anyways, if Sammy came in the next two minutes and said that exile was happening now and we had to vote someone, I'd probably go with Magalie for the time being. From what I've been able to find out about the group so far it sounds like she hasn't done much in general besides act mean to people, and I still have no idea why she ran with something Ni-Ni said and told it to you Spice.

Actually, now that I think about it I haven't even seen her online since the teams got switched. Did she post an away message or something? Let me go look.
Spies8Awohali (10:55:10 PM): She is hardly ever online anyway.
spies8jenny (10:55:12 PM): Ok nope, only time she was out was a week ago or so.
spies8jenny (10:55:19 PM): So that's nothing new then?
spies8cinnamyn (10:55:41 PM): i aint upset wit' u 4 wantin' 2 figure out who iz a cit, i jus' dont care
spies8hambone (10:55:59 PM): i havent had a 1 on 1 with magalie yet
spies8jenny (10:56:23 PM): I don't think any of the new democrats have yet Hammy. :\
spies8cinnamyn (10:56:38 PM): after she made dat weird remark 2 me im lukin at magalie 2
Spies8Awohali (10:56:38 PM): No, her appearances are as rare as President Obama's full press conferences.
spies8cinnamyn (10:57:25 PM): cuz dat wuz da second part, furst she told me she suspected steph 2
spies8cinnamyn (10:57:31 PM): after nita told her she suspected steph, lmbo
spies8cinnamyn (10:57:38 PM): so datz 2 parroted suspishins in a matter of minutez
spies8jenny (10:58:16 PM): Yeah, Ni-Ni had gotten the impression Magalie was asking in general, not just on the new team, which is why she brought Stephi up.

Oh hey, I guess that's one person that's had a talk with her from the new democrats then.
Spies8Awohali (10:58:19 PM): From Magalie? Really? I am shocked that she would claim to suspect somebody based on relatively nothing at all, or someone else's opinion.
spies8cinnamyn (10:58:52 PM): yea, frum magalie
Spies8Awohali (10:59:17 PM): But she is usually so astute, and she usually explains her actions very clearly!
spies8jenny (10:59:23 PM): spies8cinnamyn: (11:03:56 PM) so magalie who do u suspect.?
spies8magalie: (11:04:22 PM) I suspect you steph

spies8cinnamyn (10:59:39 PM): yea, n' she called me steph (?)
spies8cinnamyn (11:00:03 PM): o wait, i 4got bout dis
spies8cinnamyn (11:00:05 PM): hold up
spies8hambone (11:00:16 PM): lol wtf
spies8hambone (11:00:26 PM): whyd she call u steph
spies8cinnamyn (11:00:32 PM): spies8cinnamyn: (11:10:19 PM)who do u think b a spy.?
spies8magalie: (11:10:41 PM)Nita
spies8cinnamyn: (11:11:05 PM)y.?
spies8magalie: (11:12:16 PM)well I have not only been on a team with her for a day and she came up to me and attacked me with stuff about her team
spies8cinnamyn (11:01:01 PM): datz after suspectin' steph
Spies8Awohali (11:01:45 PM): Magalie is not fully sane. There, I said it.
Spies8Awohali (11:01:51 PM): Her actions baffle me.
spies8hambone (11:05:07 PM): hahahah
spies8cinnamyn (11:05:28 PM): she gave me da transcript of her talkin' wit nita
spies8cinnamyn (11:05:33 PM): it dont seem lyke nita attacked her at all
spies8rondak (11:06:37 PM) has left the room.
spies8cinnamyn (11:10:02 PM): jus' magalie den jenny.?
spies8jenny (11:11:04 PM): Well claude's also a little strange to me, because of that chat we had yesterday, and this little gem.

[20:39] spies8nita: Scrollin up you say you think Tina suspicious because she talkin to Cory, y why would anyone wanna talk to Cory?
[20:40] spies8nita: I'm laughin Claude, Cinnamyn right, you silly
[20:41] spies8claude: If you say so.
[20:41] spies8nita: You no think that stupid?
[20:41] spies8claude: Not really.
[20:42] spies8jenny: You're kidding me right?
[20:43] spies8jenny: Please tell me you're joking.
[20:44] spies8claude: You had to be there.


But I have no idea if he's a spy or if he's just bullheaded.
spies8cinnamyn (11:11:39 PM): trus' me, he bullheaded, spy or cit
Spies8Awohali (11:12:19 PM): Indeed. Good call, there.
Spies8Awohali (11:12:25 PM): Bulls are envious of Claude's head.
spies8jenny (11:12:31 PM):
spies8cinnamyn (11:13:02 PM): ok so's im retarded, can sum1 tell me how 2 link 2 a specific post again.?
Spies8Awohali (11:13:32 PM): I am still also retarded on that issue.
spies8cinnamyn (11:14:19 PM): i fukkin did it b4 but i cant even find my post so i can modify it jus' 2 c wut i did
spies8cory (11:14:20 PM): There is a hyperlink on the bottom right
spies8cory (11:14:22 PM): "Link to Post"
spies8cinnamyn (11:14:26 PM): ok i got dat
spies8cinnamyn (11:14:28 PM): n' da url
spies8cory (11:14:50 PM): btw
spies8cory (11:14:58 PM): Two new forums up
spies8cory (11:15:05 PM): "Go to your fort forum, read the puzzle, collect the pieces, then input your answer into the password box on this forum. All lowercase letters."
spies8cory (11:15:11 PM): Not that we can do anything yet.
spies8cinnamyn (11:15:56 PM): ok i figured it out
spies8cinnamyn (11:16:00 PM): itz
spies8cinnamyn (11:16:33 PM): text you want
spies8cory (11:17:35 PM): Oh, right
spies8cory (11:17:51 PM): Sorry didn't understand your question
spies8cinnamyn (11:27:54 PM): wen duz dis challenge shit start again.?
Spies8Awohali (11:28:05 PM): I believe Sam said 11:!5
spies8cinnamyn (11:28:25 PM): ok, n' we wait 15 minz after.? or iz dat already accounted 4
Spies8Awohali (11:28:36 PM): I am not actually sure.
spies8jenny (11:28:49 PM): in about half an hour for the Republicans
spies8jenny (11:28:52 PM): and 45 minutes for us.
spies8hambone (11:38:10 PM): ill be back soon guys
spies8hambone (11:38:15 PM) has left the room.
spies8Nita (11:42:11 PM) has entered the room.
spies8Nita (11:42:18 PM): Hola todos!
spies8jenny (11:42:24 PM): Hi Ni-Ni!
spies8Nita (11:42:37 PM): Everybody ready to kick some republican butt?
spies8jenny (11:42:47 PM): Half an hour until we start up.
spies8Nita (11:43:03 PM): We need battle cry o somethin
Spies8Awohali (11:43:11 PM): Bienvenidos, Nita.
spies8Nita (11:43:20 PM): Gracias Awohali!
spies8cinnamyn (11:43:41 PM): nita i responded 2 ur thred, 2 clear sum stuff up
spies8cinnamyn (11:44:01 PM): lemme no if u still gots queschinz
spies8Nita (11:45:39 PM): Gracias Cinnamyn I do that after the challenge when I ain't distracted
spies8cinnamyn (11:46:45 PM): aight
spies8Nita (11:48:17 PM): What be our group chant?
spies8Nita (11:48:21 PM): GO UNICORN ?
spies8Nita (11:48:33 PM): DONKEY POWER ?
spies8Nita (11:48:44 PM): NO STOP THE DONKEY ?
spies8mary (11:48:46 PM) has left the room.
spies8cinnamyn (11:49:36 PM): we got sum grate asses up in here, dont we
spies8claude (11:50:41 PM) has left the room.
spies8cinnamyn (11:52:35 PM): lmbo @ politics is like driving: to go backard, put it in "r". to go forward, put it in "d"
spies8cinnamyn (11:53:26 PM): ok dis 1 iz even better
Spies8Awohali (11:53:26 PM): That is amusing, and applies to this game rather well, since we will be the hampions.
spies8cinnamyn (11:53:40 PM): democrats are sexier, who ever heard of a great piece of elephant.?
spies8claude (11:56:16 PM) has entered the room.
spies8claude (11:56:23 PM): hey hey hey my internet is gay
spies8claude (11:57:33 PM): I didn't think it was that bad of a rhyme, you guys are tough.
spies8claude (11:57:43 PM) has left the room.
spies8cinnamyn (11:57:45 PM): lmbo sorry i wuz in da bafroom
Spies8Awohali (11:57:57 PM): How unfortunate for Claude.
Spies8Awohali (11:58:12 PM): I was in a stupor that he was not talking about Chance.
spies8cinnamyn (11:58:24 PM): hiyooooooo
spies8claude (12:00:23 AM) has entered the room.
spies8claude (12:01:07 AM): Maybe I can stay connected nowl.
Spies8Awohali (12:02:16 AM): Welcome back, Claude.
spies8claude (12:02:22 AM) has left the room.
spies8claude (12:02:40 AM) has entered the room.
spies8claude (12:03:03 AM): Let's play the 'how long can Claude stay connected' game.
Spies8Awohali (12:03:46 AM): I will; wager less than three minutes.
spies8cory (12:03:57 AM): Lol.
spies8cory (12:04:02 AM): Claude never leaves this chat room.
spies8cory (12:04:12 AM): Any indication that he has, is clearly part of Mary's delusions
spies8jenny (12:04:25 AM): Well the other group must have started by now.
spies8cinnamyn (12:05:31 AM): i dont get da "catch up time onlee" shit
spies8cinnamyn (12:05:34 AM): wut duz dat mean.?
spies8claude (12:05:48 AM): What?
spies8cinnamyn (12:05:57 AM): in da schedule
spies8cinnamyn (12:06:03 AM): it haz a bunch of catch up tymez
spies8claude (12:06:33 AM): For the puzzles I think?
Spies8Awohali (12:06:35 AM): I am perplexed that there is catch up time, but not mustard time. That hardly seems fair or balanced.
spies8Nita (12:06:47 AM): I groanin
spies8cinnamyn (12:06:55 AM): but y specific tymes 2 catch up.? idgi
spies8claude (12:06:56 AM): That's the second time you tried to run that joke.
spies8claude (12:07:00 AM): Still not funny
Spies8Awohali (12:07:11 AM): I have never before mentioned mustard.
spies8cinnamyn (12:08:09 AM): thx 4 da help allan
spies8claude (12:08:18 AM) has left the room.
spies8claude (12:08:52 AM) has entered the room.
spies8cinnamyn (12:09:45 AM): ooo i think i get da catch up tymes
spies8claude (12:09:52 AM): My internet is having so many problems that they won't even let me be in queue for tech support
spies8claude (12:09:57 AM): just 'thanks for calling, try again later'
spies8cinnamyn (12:10:00 AM): if we wudnt have finished b4 11 den we wud have had 2 wait until da catch up tyme 2 get da pieces
spies8cory (12:11:16 AM): We were doing well in the last one
spies8cory (12:11:25 AM): The first three pieces went really smoothly
sorintheseeker (12:12:13 AM): 5 minutes until game time!
sorintheseeker (12:12:26 AM): at 11:15 pm cdt on the board i will post something in your fort AND something else in your confessional
sorintheseeker (12:12:28 AM): so check both
Spies8Awohali (12:12:50 AM): We must prepare to triumph.
spies8cory (12:13:04 AM): We can't let the GOP trump us.
spies8Nita (12:13:21 AM): Truth
spies8gertrude (12:13:21 AM): I just got here. Someone recap what we're doing for me?
spies8Nita (12:13:27 AM): HOLA TODOS
spies8Nita (12:13:31 AM): CINCO MINUTOS
spies8jenny (12:13:33 AM): We're just getting ready to start.
spies8gertrude (12:13:40 AM): Start what, though?
spies8jenny (12:13:43 AM): Go check your confessional and the fort for stuff any minute.
spies8Nita (12:13:44 AM): Awohali, Cinnamyn, Claude, Cory, Gertrude, Jenny, Nita
spies8gertrude (12:13:48 AM): Oh, ok.
spies8Nita (12:13:49 AM): We pickin a leader now?
spies8Nita (12:13:55 AM): We can trade if that person no wanna be leader
spies8Nita (12:13:59 AM): But I think we need to have one to start
spies8claude (12:14:10 AM): I'll lead. I think my internet is fine now.
spies8Nita (12:14:19 AM): Gracias Claude
Spies8Awohali (12:14:31 AM): Osiyo, Gertrude.
spies8Nita (12:14:34 AM): Claude, you job to assign tasks, make sure everyone know what they doin, answer questions, y coordinate
spies8cory (12:14:36 AM): I'll uhhh, try not to suck at the puzzles
spies8Nita (12:14:37 AM): Comprende?
spies8claude (12:14:40 AM): If it's something artistic though..then I'll just 'supervise/
spies8gertrude (12:14:46 AM): Hey there, Awohali!
spies8Nita (12:15:06 AM): Claude, you ain't gonna try to do the task unless you needed
spies8Nita (12:15:13 AM): You get IMs open with everyone, si?
spies8Nita (12:15:26 AM): EVERYBODY LISTENIN TO CLAUDE. HE OUR LEADER
spies8jenny (12:15:29 AM): It's up.
spies8cory (12:15:30 AM): Lol.
Spies8Awohali (12:15:37 AM): I am prepared to carry out my orders, unless they involve a crusade against Chance.
spies8Nita (12:16:09 AM): This en our confessional now?
spies8cory (12:16:20 AM): I don't see any of it in mine
spies8cinnamyn (12:16:24 AM): i got mine
spies8jenny (12:16:28 AM): The fort topic is u.
Spies8Awohali (12:16:29 AM): I have nothing in mine at the moment
spies8Nita (12:16:29 AM): Donde? A thread?
spies8mary (12:16:34 AM) has entered the room.
spies8Nita (12:16:36 AM): I got mine
sorintheseeker (12:16:46 AM): should be up now
spies8gertrude (12:16:47 AM): Me too
spies8jenny (12:16:47 AM): Got mine.
sorintheseeker (12:16:48 AM): let me know if you don't have it
spies8gertrude (12:16:50 AM): IM it to Claude?
Spies8Awohali (12:16:54 AM): Hello, unali'i Mary.
spies8mary (12:16:59 AM): Hi.
spies8Nita (12:17:03 AM): Claude, you makin sure everyone doin it?
spies8cory (12:17:20 AM): Mine is sent to Claude
spies8claude (12:17:21 AM): yeah
spies8claude (12:17:24 AM): I've gotten 3 so far.
spies8claude (12:17:27 AM): Nita, Cory, Gert.
spies8jenny (12:17:28 AM): Easy enough so far, copy paste.
spies8claude (12:18:07 AM): I'm curious how this will all work out w/ some people offline though.
spies8cory (12:18:12 AM): Yeah
spies8cinnamyn (12:18:24 AM): iz dat all we supposed 2 do.? copy/paste
spies8Nita (12:18:26 AM): Claude who no report in yet?
spies8mary (12:18:32 AM): I have mine.
spies8cory (12:18:45 AM): Send it to Claude if you haven't already.
spies8Nita (12:18:49 AM): Mary, Claude the leader for this one. He watchin to see people doin what they supposed to do
spies8claude (12:18:51 AM): I have 6 so far.
spies8Nita (12:18:51 AM): YOu also gotta post it
Spies8Awohali (12:19:08 AM): Mary, you should be flattered that this challenge is focused upon you.
spies8claude (12:19:14 AM): missing 1...uhhh..jenny
spies8Nita (12:19:18 AM): Awohali ha
spies8Nita (12:19:25 AM): Jenny, she post after me
spies8cory (12:19:28 AM): Notice mine is the only one that doesn't start with 'mary'
sorintheseeker (12:19:32 AM): multiple copies of the poem were sent out in case people are not here
sorintheseeker (12:19:39 AM): you only need one copy of each stanza disregard the rest
spies8claude (12:19:43 AM): Cory's doesn't start with Mary
spies8jenny (12:19:46 AM): Well that's good.
spies8claude (12:19:46 AM): So I'm sure that's relevant.
spies8cory (12:19:50 AM): Yes
spies8jenny (12:19:55 AM): How many are there?
spies8Nita (12:19:59 AM): Claude anyone post a duplicate?
spies8claude (12:20:07 AM): checking for duplicates
spies8Nita (12:20:13 AM): Gertrude y Mary
Spies8Awohali (12:20:21 AM): Cinnamyn and myself have the same
spies8claude (12:20:24 AM): Cory's says sheep also, not lamb
spies8jenny (12:20:28 AM): I see a double
spies8mary (12:20:43 AM): I think we are going to have to find the one word in each line that is in common between all of them.
spies8jenny (12:20:47 AM): Mary and Gerty match.
spies8claude (12:20:50 AM): Different you mean?
spies8mary (12:20:54 AM): Might want to start looking for that.
spies8claude (12:20:59 AM): Mine appeasr to be the same as Corys.
spies8claude (12:21:00 AM): polly owned one little sheep
its fleece shone white like snow
every region where polly went
the sheep did surely go
he followed her to school one time
which broke the rigid rule
the children frolicked in their room
to see the sheep in school
spies8cory (12:21:11 AM): Hmm
spies8claude (12:21:37 AM): Cinnamyn's is the same as Awohali, mine = Cory, who else has the same?
spies8gertrude (12:21:54 AM): Mine and Mary's are the same.
spies8Nita (12:21:57 AM): I puttin mine in a spreadsheet
spies8jenny (12:21:59 AM): I'm the only pygmy so far.
spies8cory (12:22:02 AM): Maybe there's one that's not the same?
spies8jenny (12:22:12 AM): No wait, I match with Al.
spies8Nita (12:22:27 AM): Claude you checkin to see if the next part be up?
spies8claude (12:23:35 AM): Yeah
spies8cory (12:23:40 AM): I'm guessing it's something like there's only one word consistent across all of them
spies8claude (12:23:42 AM): I don't see anything else in the fort so far
spies8claude (12:23:55 AM): Nita's seems to be significantly different than anyone else's
spies8mary (12:23:56 AM): How many different ones are there? 5?
spies8Nita (12:24:21 AM): I'm seein 6
spies8Nita (12:24:34 AM): Claude you post yours?
spies8claude (12:24:36 AM): Hmm, really? I only see 5 uniques.
spies8claude (12:24:38 AM): posting it now
spies8claude (12:24:40 AM): in the fort
spies8Nita (12:24:41 AM): Claude - Cory
spies8Nita (12:24:57 AM): Oh Alowahi = Cinnamyn, yo lo veo
spies8cory (12:25:32 AM): Allan = Jenny I think
spies8jenny (12:25:38 AM): Yep.
spies8Nita (12:25:39 AM): Si
spies8claude (12:25:40 AM): Hmmm
spies8mary (12:25:43 AM): 5 unique poems, right?
spies8claude (12:25:47 AM): Most of these are close to the actual nursery rhyme
spies8jenny (12:25:58 AM): Not sure exactly what we're looking for here.
spies8cinnamyn (12:26:00 AM): can sum1 post all of dem without duplicates.?
spies8Nita (12:26:05 AM): Si. Nita, Jenny/Allan, Cinnamyn/Awohali, Gertrude, Cory/Claude
spies8jenny (12:26:06 AM): I just know it's supposed to unlock that board in the main page.
spies8Nita (12:26:12 AM): Ask Claude, he our boss
spies8claude (12:26:18 AM): I'm trying to compile them all now
spies8Nita (12:26:34 AM): Maybe the password be the 1 word in all?
spies8claude (12:26:51 AM): It's weird that Nita's is all alone.
spies8cinnamyn (12:27:10 AM): it aint 1 word in all, cuz ive tried all words in nitaz (i think) n' nothin
spies8Nita (12:27:18 AM): Gracias Cinnamyn
spies8jenny (12:27:27 AM): There has to be more to this.
spies8cinnamyn (12:27:40 AM): he says our instrucshin IZ da poem
spies8Nita (12:27:57 AM): Ah
spies8Nita (12:28:29 AM): Leader? What we to do?
spies8claude (12:28:36 AM): boo
spies8claude (12:28:41 AM): It won't let me post the whole thing ato nce
spies8claude (12:28:46 AM): I'll make a forum post in the fort
spies8mary (12:29:39 AM): IN
spies8claude (12:29:43 AM): ?
spies8Nita (12:30:03 AM): Someone look up poem online, see if there trivia
spies8Nita (12:30:09 AM): Maybe it be about satire o parody
spies8mary (12:30:25 AM): The word "in" is in the last line odf all five poems
spies8Nita (12:30:37 AM): That ain't the pw
spies8Nita (12:30:41 AM): Everyone tryin to enter passwords?
spies8mary (12:30:42 AM): No other word is repeated in every poem on the same line.
spies8cory (12:30:52 AM): Yeah I was looking for that Mary, good find
spies8cory (12:30:55 AM): Password isn't "in" though
spies8claude (12:31:02 AM): hmm
spies8claude (12:31:13 AM): the word wool is only used in the second line of one poem
spies8cory (12:31:15 AM): There has to be sometihng that stands out.
spies8cinnamyn (12:31:24 AM): we gotta luk outside da box
spies8cory (12:31:29 AM): Not wool either
Spies8Awohali (12:32:10 AM): Polly stands out apart from Mary, in the first stanza.
spies8claude (12:32:11 AM): most of them end with snow on the second line, one ends with hue
spies8Nita (12:32:17 AM): Es a lipogram
spies8Nita (12:32:21 AM): That ain't the password though
spies8claude (12:32:22 AM): and polly is only used once.
spies8claude (12:32:29 AM): What's a lipogram
spies8Nita (12:32:56 AM): I google polly owned on elittle sheep
Spies8Awohali (12:33:01 AM): Somethnig Angelina Jolie has had many of, I am sure.
spies8cinnamyn (12:33:54 AM): da passwurd izn't "marywuzastupidbitch", yall can cross dat 1 off da list
spies8claude (12:33:59 AM): heh
spies8Nita (12:34:03 AM): www.askoxford.com/worldofwords/wordfrom/polly/
spies8cinnamyn (12:34:31 AM): the letterz
spies8cinnamyn (12:34:35 AM): does it onlee use certin letters.?
spies8claude (12:34:44 AM): hmmm
spies8gertrude (12:34:49 AM): There's no A.
spies8claude (12:34:54 AM): Maybe we need to figure out which letters aren't present in any of them?
spies8gertrude (12:35:07 AM): In each poem, there's 1 letter missing.
spies8gertrude (12:35:12 AM): Cory's is A.
spies8Nita (12:35:40 AM): Mine no have E?
spies8cory (12:35:43 AM): No J
spies8gertrude (12:35:50 AM): Cinnamyn's has no O.
spies8mary (12:36:01 AM): H
spies8Nita (12:36:14 AM): Who no have j or h?
spies8gertrude (12:36:22 AM): H for Mary and I.
spies8cory (12:36:24 AM): no Z, no H
spies8cory (12:36:28 AM): Err
spies8cory (12:36:29 AM): No X
spies8cory (12:36:30 AM): Not H
spies8gertrude (12:36:36 AM): Cory, yours is A.
spies8claude (12:36:41 AM): I don't see a Z nor X in any of the.
spies8claude (12:36:43 AM): them.
spies8gertrude (12:36:45 AM): The poem doesn't usually have a Z or X
spies8Nita (12:36:52 AM): What missin from Jenny/Allan?
spies8claude (12:36:54 AM): Are those letters just excluded?
spies8Nita (12:36:56 AM): mary had a pygmy lamb
spies8gertrude (12:37:11 AM): T
Spies8Awohali (12:37:21 AM): AEJOHT? assuming A/X do not count?
Spies8Awohali (12:37:25 AM): Z/X*
spies8gertrude (12:37:32 AM): No J either, I don't think.
spies8cory (12:37:44 AM): No J in any of them
spies8gertrude (12:37:49 AM): Exactly.
spies8gertrude (12:37:56 AM): I mean J doesn't count either.
spies8gertrude (12:38:07 AM): AEOHT
spies8gertrude (12:38:10 AM): tahoe?
Spies8Awohali (12:38:15 AM): That is a possibility.
spies8claude (12:38:45 AM): It's not tahoe
spies8cory (12:39:05 AM): wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=AEOHT&t=1000&a=n
spies8cory (12:39:07 AM): Not very helpful
spies8cory (12:39:42 AM): Hmmmm
Spies8Awohali (12:40:11 AM): Is it that we should look for the letters that do appear in each stanza?
spies8Nita (12:40:15 AM): A lipogram is a text that purposefully excludes a particular letter of the alphabet. The lipogram can be reapplied multiple times (exclude more than one letter) or to different units of language. When the lipogram technique is reapplied on a different scale to create a poem which purposefully excludes a certain word, you have a liponym. A poem deliberately excluding words a particular number of letters in length is a liponol.
spies8cinnamyn (12:40:44 AM): Eckler rewrote this in five different versions which respectively omitted the letters A, E, H, S, and T.
spies8claude (12:40:45 AM): too many letters 'do' appear in each stanza, I don't see how that could be it.
spies8cinnamyn (12:40:55 AM): we got 5 difrent vershinz
spies8Nita (12:41:22 AM): HASTE
spies8Nita (12:41:23 AM): es haste
spies8cinnamyn (12:41:36 AM): fuk eya
spies8gertrude (12:41:37 AM): it work
spies8Nita (12:41:47 AM): I unscramble them
spies8cinnamyn (12:41:51 AM): we behind, 30 viewz in da thred
spies8Nita (12:41:53 AM): Gracias cinnamnyn
spies8Nita (12:41:54 AM): Uh oh
spies8claude (12:42:02 AM): the password is haste
spies8jenny (12:42:03 AM): fictional planets?
spies8Nita (12:42:44 AM): CLAUDE
spies8Nita (12:42:47 AM): We need you to split up work
Spies8Awohali (12:42:48 AM): This does not look promising.
spies8mary (12:43:00 AM): I am taking the last two
spies8Nita (12:43:04 AM): If Claude no lead I lead
spies8Nita (12:43:08 AM): Mary you do 9 y 10
spies8Nita (12:43:16 AM): Jenny you do 7 y 8
spies8Nita (12:43:19 AM): Gertrude 5 y 6
spies8Nita (12:43:23 AM): Cory 3 y 4
spies8Nita (12:43:27 AM): Cinnamyn 1 y 2
spies8jenny (12:43:33 AM): Okies.
spies8Nita (12:43:37 AM): Awohali you help where needed
spies8Nita (12:43:43 AM): Claude you help where needed
Spies8Awohali (12:43:49 AM): It seems senseless to have some to 2 at a time and others do nothing.
spies8Nita (12:43:49 AM): Claude you doin 5-10 help
spies8Nita (12:43:53 AM): Awohali you doin 1-5 help
spies8Nita (12:43:57 AM): Go look
spies8Nita (12:44:04 AM): I keepin track of the answers
Spies8Awohali (12:44:27 AM): It would be more efficient to assign a few people 1 each instead.
spies8gertrude (12:44:39 AM): I'm working on #6.
spies8Nita (12:44:48 AM): Awohali you want somethin to do, you do 1 y go from there
spies8Nita (12:46:22 AM): I ain't got answers people
spies8Nita (12:46:24 AM): Everyone lookin?
spies8cory (12:46:48 AM): Looking for #4
spies8cinnamyn (12:47:46 AM): 1 = lightning
spies8cinnamyn (12:47:54 AM): afternoon heatwaves broken by fierce thunderstorms (avoid getting struck by lightning--a leading cause of death here)
spies8Nita (12:48:50 AM): Gracias
spies8claude (12:48:54 AM) has left the room.
spies8jenny (12:48:54 AM): I think 7 is Xanadu
spies8Nita (12:48:58 AM): Gracias
spies8mary (12:49:02 AM) has left the room.
spies8Nita (12:49:22 AM): Mary workin on 9 y 10. She no come back, someone gonna do it
spies8jenny (12:51:07 AM): 8 I'm having problems on.
spies8Nita (12:51:13 AM): I help you with 8
spies8cinnamyn (12:52:40 AM): 2 = gliderwolf
spies8cinnamyn (12:52:42 AM): www.worlddreambank.org/S/SIPGLID.HTM
spies8cinnamyn (12:52:43 AM): pic on there
spies8cinnamyn (12:52:57 AM): movin to 9
spies8gertrude (12:53:02 AM): I will sleep well tonight knowing there are people in the world much nerdier than myself.
spies8Nita (12:53:18 AM): This es loco
spies8Nita (12:53:21 AM): Gracias Cinnamyn
spies8hambone (12:53:33 AM) has entered the room.
spies8Nita (12:53:37 AM): Hambone
spies8hambone (12:53:39 AM): hi
spies8Nita (12:53:39 AM): Hola
spies8Nita (12:53:42 AM): We need you help
spies8Nita (12:53:43 AM): I IM you
spies8jenny (12:54:27 AM): Let me know where you need help, I don't think I'll be of much help on 8.
Spies8Awohali (12:54:34 AM): The anser to number 9 is THARN
spies8Nita (12:54:47 AM): Gracias Awohali, you amazin
spies8jenny (12:54:47 AM): lg _ _ _ _ x _ t _
spies8Nita (12:54:49 AM): Jenny I reassign
spies8Nita (12:55:05 AM): Jenny, Mary leave
spies8Nita (12:55:15 AM): She do 9 y 10, we okay on this
spies8Nita (12:55:21 AM): You help cory
spies8cory (12:55:23 AM): NFC on #4
spies8claude (12:55:26 AM) has entered the room.
spies8cory (12:55:28 AM): #3 is something here though
spies8Nita (12:55:30 AM): Do #4 okay?
spies8cory (12:55:30 AM): www.worlddreambank.org/01/0WAYAN.HTM
spies8claude (12:55:30 AM): stupid internet
spies8Nita (12:55:34 AM): Claude hola
spies8claude (12:55:36 AM): which ones are done so far?
spies8Nita (12:55:38 AM): Claude I need you to do #8
spies8claude (12:55:42 AM): Alright.
spies8Nita (12:55:45 AM): Gracias
spies8Nita (12:56:03 AM): Cory you take #5 if you stuck?
spies8cory (12:56:08 AM): I'll look at 5
spies8jenny (12:56:19 AM): 4 IS WITCH
Spies8Awohali (12:56:20 AM): I am in need of a new assignment that nobody is working on.
spies8Nita (12:56:23 AM): Gracias Jenny
spies8Nita (12:56:33 AM): I need the answer to #3
spies8Nita (12:56:37 AM): You do that Awohali?
Spies8Awohali (12:56:38 AM): I will get on it.
spies8Nita (12:56:39 AM): Gracias
spies8Nita (12:57:07 AM): Jenny
spies8Nita (12:57:12 AM): You help with #6?
spies8mary (12:57:39 AM) has entered the room.
spies8Nita (12:57:49 AM): Mary hola
spies8Nita (12:57:52 AM): Mary you help Hambone with 10?
spies8mary (12:57:55 AM): Did you get my answer and a half?
spies8Nita (12:57:56 AM): 10) In this region of a continent, you will find the Weksheks, ice giants, and a huge temple. (the region is the heading of this section)
spies8Nita (12:57:58 AM): No
spies8mary (12:58:03 AM): 9 is tharn and 10 is on www.worlddreambank.org/P/PEGCON3.HTM somewhere
spies8jenny (12:58:05 AM): straight queer fairy for 3?
spies8Nita (12:58:22 AM): You sure?
spies8jenny (12:58:25 AM): yep
spies8jenny (12:58:31 AM): My life as a straight queer fairy:
butch and femme.
spies8jenny (12:58:40 AM): that's a contradictory sprite I'd say.
spies8claude (12:58:42 AM): I think 8 is Central Aphrodite.
spies8Nita (12:58:44 AM): Gracias
spies8Nita (12:58:53 AM): Gracias Claude
spies8Nita (12:59:03 AM): I still needin 5, 6, 10
spies8jenny (12:59:07 AM): lgsw _ _ x _ t _
spies8Nita (12:59:08 AM): Hambone Y Mary workin on 10?
spies8Nita (12:59:15 AM): Jenny you do 6
spies8Nita (12:59:18 AM): Cory on 5
spies8mary (12:59:18 AM): 10 might be "Contintent 3"
spies8jenny (12:59:24 AM): lgsw _ _xct_
spies8claude (12:59:24 AM): Or rather, just Aphrodite.
spies8hambone (12:59:26 AM): trying to but unfortuntely im not a trained Weksheck!
spies8jenny (12:59:31 AM): lgsw _ _xcta
spies8Nita (12:59:38 AM): You sure Claude?
spies8claude (12:59:41 AM): Yeah.
spies8claude (12:59:47 AM): Pretty sure.
spies8Nita (12:59:48 AM): It help if you al provide links to answers, that way if we wrong we can go back y look
spies8Nita (1:00:04 AM): I still need answers to 5 y 6
spies8claude (1:00:16 AM): www.worlddreambank.org/V/VENAFMID.HTM
spies8Nita (1:00:18 AM): Everyone who done, try one of those
spies8Nita (1:00:29 AM): Y if you gave me an answer before, give me the link, bien?
spies8mary (1:00:40 AM): Hambone, weksheks are on www.worlddreambank.org/P/PEGCON3.HTM
spies8Nita (1:00:52 AM): Mary
spies8mary (1:00:54 AM): And the temple and the ice giants
spies8Nita (1:01:00 AM): The question say "region of continent"
spies8Nita (1:01:05 AM): Which region de continent 3?
spies8mary (1:01:14 AM): That's what I'm trying to figure out. It's not clear
spies8Nita (1:01:18 AM): Ah
spies8mary (1:01:28 AM): Maybe The Steamy North
spies8mary (1:02:10 AM): But 9 is definitely Tharn
spies8cinnamyn (1:02:16 AM): 6 = dubia
spies8Nita (1:02:22 AM): Cinnamyn, muchas gracias
spies8cinnamyn (1:02:24 AM): I spent days just staring at maps in a trance, hovering condorlike over every land on Earth. I learned unexpected things. For example:
spies8Nita (1:02:24 AM): Link por favor?
spies8cinnamyn (1:02:30 AM): www.worlddreambank.org/D/DUBIA.HTM
spies8jenny (1:02:39 AM): Yay!
spies8cinnamyn (1:02:42 AM): towardz bottom
spies8cinnamyn (1:02:47 AM): search "condor"
sorintheseeker (1:02:51 AM): lol read the lines before that. so effin creepy
spies8cinnamyn (1:02:59 AM): dis whole shit iz creepy
spies8mary (1:03:03 AM): Sam, is this guy a friend of yours?
sorintheseeker (1:03:09 AM): i suffered mental damage from spending hrs on this site making questions
spies8Nita (1:03:31 AM): I need help for #10
spies8Nita (1:03:33 AM): Findin the region
spies8Nita (1:03:35 AM): Mary post the link
spies8Nita (1:03:36 AM): www.worlddreambank.org/D/DUBIA.HTM
spies8Nita (1:03:39 AM): Wrong link
spies8Nita (1:03:42 AM): www.worlddreambank.org/P/PEGCON3.HTM
spies8Nita (1:03:46 AM): What the region where the temple es?
spies8mary (1:03:54 AM): www.worlddreambank.org/P/PEGCON3.HTM
spies8mary (1:04:00 AM): I said the steamy north
spies8Nita (1:04:17 AM): Good
spies8mary (1:04:22 AM): It has weksheks, thoopwoops, a temple and a Dairy Queen.
spies8mary (1:04:39 AM): Oh, and ice giants.
spies8mary (1:04:57 AM): Who are we waiting on?
spies8Nita (1:04:58 AM): Solo need #5
spies8Nita (1:05:10 AM): Gertrude workin on it, she need help
spies8cory (1:05:37 AM): I'm on 5 as well
spies8cory (1:05:40 AM): FU Paramount Peak
spies8gertrude (1:05:43 AM): ^
spies8gertrude (1:05:44 AM): ^
spies8gertrude (1:05:44 AM): ^
spies8gertrude (1:05:45 AM): ^
spies8hambone (1:05:47 AM): im confused
spies8claude (1:05:49 AM): I'm stuck on that too
spies8cory (1:05:53 AM): Lol
spies8Nita (1:05:54 AM): Hambone
spies8claude (1:05:54 AM): I think maybe paramount is a synonym?
spies8Nita (1:05:56 AM): I need you to do somethin
spies8hambone (1:06:00 AM): YEAH
spies8Nita (1:06:03 AM): We gonna try guessin, I send you combos to try
spies8claude (1:06:07 AM): Because I definitely didn't find that word in any of the linked region/pages
spies8hambone (1:06:07 AM): i dont know wtf a wekshek is
spies8claude (1:06:16 AM) has left the room.
spies8cory (1:06:34 AM): I'm looking at the maps now
spies8jenny (1:06:36 AM): if 5 is all we're missing
spies8jenny (1:06:38 AM): I'm brute forcing it.
Spies8Awohali (1:06:51 AM): I am looking through the images for Paramount Peak as well.
spies8jenny (1:06:56 AM): I'm down to p
spies8Nita (1:07:11 AM): Jenny what comb you tryin?
spies8gertrude (1:07:12 AM): Should we just insert the password, guessing letters for the 5th one?
spies8Nita (1:07:19 AM): Hambone y Jenny workin on that
spies8gertrude (1:07:23 AM): Oh.
spies8jenny (1:07:24 AM): lgswqdxcta with the 5th one changing
spies8Nita (1:07:29 AM): Problem es, for 8 y 10 we got 2 answers
spies8claude (1:07:57 AM) has entered the room.
spies8claude (1:08:18 AM): Did we get #5 yet?

[Awohali]

spies8Nita (1:08:21 AM): Still tryin
spies8Nita (1:08:30 AM): Jenny y Hambone also tryin combos
spies8Nita (1:09:02 AM): I tryin hambone on lgsw_dxatc
spies8jenny (1:09:06 AM): I just went through the whole alphabet
spies8jenny (1:09:15 AM): lgsw_dxcta

Something is wrong in there.
Spies8Awohali (1:09:25 AM): We must reassess our answers then.
spies8Nita (1:09:26 AM): Where you get an A for 10?
spies8Nita (1:09:31 AM): I got continent 3 o steamy north
spies8Nita (1:09:41 AM): 8th letter I get, central aphrodite o aphrodite
spies8jenny (1:09:43 AM): it was called aprodite right?
spies8Nita (1:09:47 AM): What bout 10?
spies8mary (1:09:48 AM): www.worlddreambank.org/S/SIPNAZ.HTM
spies8claude (1:09:50 AM): What are our words so far?
spies8Nita (1:09:55 AM): What that the link to Mary?
spies8mary (1:09:58 AM): 5 is nazca Seas
spies8mary (1:10:02 AM): I just told you
spies8Nita (1:10:14 AM): you so good
spies8jenny (1:10:16 AM): lgswndxcta

Something is still wrong with that.
spies8cory (1:10:22 AM): You got 5?
spies8cory (1:10:24 AM): Damn
spies8Nita (1:10:28 AM): Here what I got
spies8Nita (1:10:29 AM): 1 - Lightning
2 - Gliderwolf
3 - straight queer fairy
4 - Witch
5 - Nazca seas
6 - Dubia
7 - Xanadu
8 - Aphrodite or central Aphrodite
9 - Tharn
10 - continent 3 or steamy north
spies8mary (1:10:36 AM): 10 is the steamy north
spies8Nita (1:10:44 AM): lgswndxas
spies8hambone (1:11:18 AM): straight queer fairy?
spies8jenny (1:11:21 AM): yes
spies8claude (1:11:23 AM): hmmm
spies8jenny (1:11:25 AM): straight queer fairy
spies8Nita (1:11:26 AM): lgswndxatc
lgswndxctc
lgswndxats
lgswndxcts
spies8cory (1:11:26 AM): #5 is definitely right
spies8cory (1:11:29 AM): I just double checked it
spies8cory (1:11:34 AM): Which ones are we least certain of?
spies8Nita (1:11:35 AM): It be one of those 4 combos from the answers I got
spies8jenny (1:11:39 AM): I am sure 3 and 4 are right
spies8claude (1:11:43 AM) has left the room.
spies8cinnamyn (1:11:44 AM): 1 and 2 r rite
spies8gertrude (1:11:53 AM): I just emailed the creator.
spies8cinnamyn (1:11:56 AM): az is 6
spies8cory (1:11:57 AM): Lol.
spies8gertrude (1:12:03 AM): And you tell me you found Paramount Peak?
spies8Nita (1:12:06 AM): I IN
spies8Nita (1:12:07 AM): I N
spies8Nita (1:12:10 AM): lgswndxats
spies8jenny (1:12:10 AM): YAY
spies8cory (1:12:11 AM): What was it?
spies8jenny (1:12:13 AM): POST LADY POST
spies8claude (1:12:16 AM) has entered the room.
spies8Nita (1:12:29 AM): We 3 minutes behind the others
spies8cory (1:12:32 AM): Fuck
spies8Nita (1:12:34 AM): But we got 15 minute delay
spies8Nita (1:12:40 AM): So we do it 12 minutes better than them?
spies8jenny (1:12:42 AM): BY 3 MINUTES
spies8jenny (1:12:49 AM): Well that stinks
sorintheseeker (1:12:49 AM): Congratulations Democrats, you completed the puzzle!
spies8hambone (1:13:00 AM): damn
sorintheseeker (1:13:04 AM): Unfortunately, the REpublicans beat you by 5 minutes
spies8cory (1:13:15 AM): I am definitely getting image recognition software after this
spies8Nita (1:13:15 AM): #8 be aphrodite y 10 be steamy whatever
spies8mary (1:13:17 AM): Paramount Peak's planet is actually Earth.
spies8cory (1:13:18 AM): Lol fucking maps.
spies8hambone (1:13:24 AM): Host way to tell us that we lost after we lost
spies8gertrude (1:13:25 AM): Yes.
spies8hambone (1:13:26 AM): every time
sorintheseeker (1:13:30 AM): So your next task will be given out at 6:15 PM CDT Tuesday
spies8mary (1:13:31 AM): And that is the peak Paramount Pictures took its logo from, in Peru.
spies8Nita (1:13:43 AM): What be the times for the race Sam?
spies8Nita (1:13:47 AM): How far behind are we?
spies8claude (1:13:57 AM): I guess we got closer. Will we still start 15m behind next time?
spies8mary (1:13:58 AM): 15 minutes.
spies8jenny (1:14:04 AM): Still 15 minutes.
spies8mary (1:14:08 AM): It never gets more than that I don't think.
spies8cinnamyn (1:14:11 AM): fuk
spies8hambone (1:14:13 AM): i dont get it
spies8hambone (1:14:18 AM): theyve got the most random team
spies8Nita (1:14:25 AM): Democrats, we did great
spies8Nita (1:14:33 AM): I know we still behind but this round we work together real good
spies8hambone (1:14:37 AM): mhm
spies8Nita (1:14:37 AM): Everyone doin what I asked
spies8Nita (1:14:41 AM): Everyone doin their best
spies8Nita (1:14:45 AM): Everyone workin together
Spies8Awohali (1:14:46 AM): We technically beat them on this puzzle... It is unfortunate the advantage that they get by winning early.
spies8Nita (1:15:01 AM): We smart y we organized y we gonna win next time, si?
Spies8Awohali (1:15:11 AM): We must.
spies8cory (1:15:28 AM): We did better this time
spies8cory (1:15:34 AM): We actually beat them as far as timing goes
spies8Nita (1:15:36 AM): What work this time y what no work?
spies8cory (1:15:43 AM): Splitting up the work
spies8cory (1:15:46 AM): In an organized matter
spies8Nita (1:15:47 AM): Durin this last part, people feel okay with what goin on?
spies8Nita (1:15:52 AM): Or there somethin we can do better?
spies8claude (1:16:15 AM): I thought you did a great job leading, Nita. Since I couldn't stay connected enough to do it.
spies8claude (1:16:23 AM): You delegated tasks well, etc.
spies8cory (1:16:27 AM): I think people need to speak up if they're stuck, like I was. Lol.
spies8Nita (1:16:35 AM): I try to check in with some people
spies8cory (1:16:44 AM): #5 was a bitch
spies8cinnamyn (1:16:45 AM): im pist at myself cuz i shuda menshined da letterz earlier. i did but not da specific letterz i noticed.
spies8Nita (1:16:46 AM): Ask if they need help. Also watchn to see what ain't done y puttin people there
spies8jenny (1:16:54 AM): 8 killed us really
spies8Nita (1:16:55 AM): The letters bout the lamb?
spies8cinnamyn (1:17:02 AM): yea
spies8jenny (1:17:03 AM): if it was just 5, we could have brute forced ourselves in on time.
spies8cinnamyn (1:17:22 AM): i sed wut about letterz cuz i jus' saw letters, i shud have luked in 2 it more
spies8cory (1:17:24 AM): I think something else was off, too
spies8Nita (1:17:46 AM): I had Hambone tryin the ones that work
spies8claude (1:17:51 AM): I thought 8 was Aphrodite
spies8jenny (1:18:00 AM): it was
spies8jenny (1:18:10 AM): somehow we were doing continent 3 though
spies8jenny (1:18:14 AM): at least that's what I had written down.
spies8jenny (1:18:42 AM): no here we go, central aphrodite is what we had fora while
spies8claude (1:18:44 AM): I thought I said 8 was Aphrodite and Nita wrote it down awhile back...pretty sure.
spies8gertrude (1:18:47 AM): Guys, I'll post this, but I'm not going to be able to make it tomorrow night, I'm really sorry.
spies8jenny (1:18:59 AM): Okies.
spies8Nita (1:19:06 AM): Gertrude you do great
spies8Nita (1:19:08 AM): We gonna miss you
spies8Nita (1:19:22 AM): The lamb thing, that hard
spies8gertrude (1:19:26 AM): I didn't contribute at all, ha.
spies8Nita (1:19:27 AM): I no even remember what the password was
spies8Nita (1:19:39 AM): You here, you doin your best. You contribute
spies8gertrude (1:19:46 AM): I still have yet to find Paramount Peak.
spies8jenny (1:19:46 AM): haste was it
spies8gertrude (1:19:51 AM): I want Chris Wayan to die.
spies8claude (1:20:33 AM): Who is that
spies8gertrude (1:20:43 AM): The guy who made all of that.
spies8Nita (1:20:52 AM): Este hombre, he need to die, si
spies8gertrude (1:20:56 AM): I emailed him before I found out you guys had

[Awohali]

Spies8Awohali (12:17:50 AM): mary had a little lamb
with fleece a pale white hue
and everywhere that mary went
the lamb kept her in view
to academe he went with her
illegal and quite rare
it made the children laugh and play
to view a lamb in there
spies8claude is available (12:18:07 AM)
spies8claude is available (1:54:05 AM)
spies8claude is available (12:18:51 AM)
Spies8Awohali (1:54:13 AM): Osiyo, Claude, are you around?
spies8claude (1:54:27 AM): Indeed
spies8claude (1:54:31 AM): as long as my internet lets me be
Spies8Awohali (1:55:34 AM): I hve noticed that your internet has not been nice to you today... I am sorry for that. I was wondering if you would be willing to tell me what your role ability was today, or on who you used it on, or both? I understand that there might be a need to keep some things secret, but I am interested in how you are using your role, as you are a suspect of mine.
spies8claude (1:55:56 AM): Obviously I'm not concerned with keeping it a secret.
spies8claude (1:56:07 AM): I used my Veto ability on Chance, to prevent him from voting myself or Jasmine.
Spies8Awohali (1:56:37 AM): I figured as much, on the first count, and on the second count involing Chance in one way or another, ha!
Spies8Awohali (1:57:43 AM): You are aware that Jasmine is on the other team, right? Chance could not have voted for Jasmine either way, correct?
spies8claude (1:57:48 AM): ...
spies8claude (1:57:54 AM): fuck me for forgetting that one
spies8claude (1:58:06 AM): I just remembered him trying to run up suspicion on her and wanted to prevent it
Spies8Awohali (1:58:31 AM): I see... That is understandable, I keep looking at our former Democrats as teammates as well
spies8claude (2:01:38 AM): Now I feel really dumb
spies8claude (2:01:39 AM): blah
Spies8Awohali (2:03:27 AM): Do not beat yourself up for it; mistakes happen. But it might be wise to triple check role decisions in the future, just in case.
spies8claude (2:03:44 AM): I'm not really looking forward to tomorrow's use
spies8claude (2:03:59 AM): I don't want to have to direct someone to only target 3 people(I can't choose less than 3)
spies8claude (2:04:06 AM): but I have to use that up to be able to use the other ones again.
Spies8Awohali (2:04:52 AM): Ah... That will be a difficult decision. You could always use it on an inactive like Magalie, if necessary. It is not like she puts much thought into her votes anyway.
spies8claude (2:05:18 AM): Yeah, that's true.
spies8claude (2:05:32 AM): I'm starting to get a little suspicious of Gertrude as well, we'll see what she does today.
Spies8Awohali (2:08:34 AM): She seemed to perform adaquately during the challenge.
spies8claude (2:08:53 AM): I don't think the challenges will ever be effective in finding spies
Spies8Awohali (2:09:08 AM): Not really, no, but it is better than nothing.
spies8claude (2:09:23 AM): I mean, I guess if someone was just really, really obviously going out of their way to help.
spies8claude (2:09:31 AM): er
spies8claude (2:09:35 AM): and/or not help
spies8claude (2:09:49 AM): like..I already thought Nita was town, but I think so even more after the challenge.
Spies8Awohali (2:10:30 AM): The kicker is.... Will the Spies be performing hardcore in hopes that they will be given the "most powerful reward ever"?
spies8claude (2:11:09 AM): I think that these challenges are kind of random. Like, an individual's performance during the challenge isn't going to result in that person's side just rewarding them the top prize
spies8claude (2:11:26 AM): It's still just going to go to whomever is perceived as most likely to be town.
Spies8Awohali (2:13:05 AM): I certainly hope so. I will be weighing my vote for that very carefully.
Spies8Awohali (2:15:12 AM): I am afraid that it is time for me to log off for the night, it has gotten very late...
spies8claude (2:15:22 AM): Ah, unfortunate.
spies8claude (2:15:32 AM): Talking to you is always beneficial.
Spies8Awohali (2:15:53 AM): As it is with you, also. I am sure that we will have time to discuss things tomorrow, in between challenges, hopefully.
Spies8Awohali (2:18:38 AM): Farewell, Claude.

[Awohali]

spies8jenny (5:56:07 PM): Hi Hali!
Spies8Awohali (5:56:18 PM): Hello, Jenny. How are you?
spies8jenny (5:56:26 PM): I'm doing well.
spies8jenny is available (5:56:53 PM)
Spies8Awohali (5:56:57 PM): That is good to hear. Well rested for the challenge?
spies8jenny is available (5:57:16 PM)
spies8jenny (5:57:31 PM): Yep!
spies8jenny (5:57:34 PM): And I have pizza!
spies8jenny (5:57:37 PM):
spies8jenny is available (5:57:51 PM)
Spies8Awohali (5:57:59 PM): A good source of energy, for sure. I enjoy the taste of pizza, but it is so unnatural that I do not partake of it often
spies8jenny (5:58:30 PM): But it tastes so good!

I think I might need a drink to go with the challenge though.
spies8jenny is available (5:58:35 PM)
Spies8Awohali (5:59:42 PM): Yes, I drank many glasses of water last night during our challenge
Spies8Awohali (5:59:58 PM): And was still tired after it was over.

[Awohali]

spies8jenny (5:56:07 PM): Hi Hali!
Spies8Awohali (5:56:18 PM): Hello, Jenny. How are you?
spies8jenny (5:56:26 PM): I'm doing well.
spies8jenny is available (5:56:53 PM)
Spies8Awohali (5:56:57 PM): That is good to hear. Well rested for the challenge?
spies8jenny is available (5:57:16 PM)
spies8jenny (5:57:31 PM): Yep!
spies8jenny (5:57:34 PM): And I have pizza!
spies8jenny (5:57:37 PM):
spies8jenny is available (5:57:51 PM)
Spies8Awohali (5:57:59 PM): A good source of energy, for sure. I enjoy the taste of pizza, but it is so unnatural that I do not partake of it often
spies8jenny (5:58:30 PM): But it tastes so good!

I think I might need a drink to go with the challenge though.
spies8jenny is available (5:58:35 PM)
Spies8Awohali (5:59:42 PM): Yes, I drank many glasses of water last night during our challenge
Spies8Awohali (5:59:58 PM): And was still tired after it was over.
spies8jenny is available (8:59:57 PM)
spies8jenny (8:59:57 PM): Ni-Ni's worried that people that are vets would be targeted by the spies moreso then the new players from what I'm talking to her with. I can understand where she's coming from, although I don't think that's a real issue to worry about.
spies8jenny is available (9:00:47 PM)
Spies8Awohali (9:02:08 PM): I can understand it, too, but I think she is voerreacting heavily.
spies8jenny (9:02:37 PM): I agree, but I'd rather not start a fight about it when we got more important things to deal with.
Spies8Awohali (9:04:08 PM): Agreed. I just think she is silly.
spies8jenny (9:05:29 PM): I'll save the chat for later, just in case by some bit of ridiculousness we need it for some reason.
spies8jenny (9:06:43 PM): No need to cause an argument over it, when I don't think Ni-Ni is a spy anyways, and like I said, we got more important things to argue about if we want to start arguing.
Spies8Awohali (9:06:45 PM): Indeed... That seems like a good po9liy. Although if you are used to psoting all chats, I still see no reason not to.
Spies8Awohali (9:07:01 PM): Nita is more upset with me than she is with you. She made that clear to me in IM's.
spies8jenny (9:07:04 PM): I got it in my confessional
spies8jenny (9:07:29 PM): Okies, I be right back so I can get my sibling.
Spies8Awohali (9:07:44 PM): That sounds like fun, enjoy yourself.
spies8jenny is available (9:22:53 PM)
spies8jenny (9:23:51 PM): I hated that map challenge. It took me about 5 minutes to find those three items, and 20 minutes later we're still figuring out how to write them down.
spies8jenny (9:23:53 PM):
Spies8Awohali (9:26:08 PM): Yes... I hated it as well, epecially since the numbers were uneven.
Spies8Awohali (9:26:25 PM): It would have been a lot less confusing had they matched up on either side and up and down.
spies8jenny (9:26:37 PM): And if we had a system to list it that made sense.
Spies8Awohali (9:27:20 PM): Yes... That could have very well made all the difference for us,
spies8jenny (9:27:31 PM): I'm sure it helped.
Spies8Awohali (9:28:09 PM): We can not worry about it any longer, though, for it is in the past. This last challenge is what matters.
spies8jenny (9:28:25 PM): Hopefully it makes more sense.
spies8jenny (9:28:32 PM): And that the other team all falls asleep.
Spies8Awohali (9:29:16 PM): I am thinking that it will be a very long challenge, since all of tomorrow is given for catching up time.
spies8jenny (9:29:53 PM): Maybe.
Spies8Awohali (9:30:14 PM): If anything, longer is better since we are 15 minutes behind.
spies8jenny (9:31:58 PM): You know, Maggie left to reboot her computer 2 hours ago, and she still hasn't come back.
spies8jenny (9:32:09 PM): I wonder if something happened to her?
Spies8Awohali (9:32:21 PM): Oh, I know... I noted that. She probably just did not want to participate.
spies8jenny (9:32:36 PM): But she would get more votes on herself if she didn't.
spies8jenny (9:34:43 PM): I dunno what is going on with her.
Spies8Awohali (9:35:16 PM): She does not act... Within reasonable means very often.

[Awohali]

spies8cinnamyn (8:49:06 PM): cuz earlyer nita sed she didnt no how roles worked in dis game, but she new errybodys name in da puzzle
spies8cinnamyn is available (10:39:59 PM)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1F_5-8xcF8
spies8cinnamyn (8:50:12 PM): whether dats important 2 her bein a spy or she jus' dont wanna b found out, i dunno
Spies8Awohali (8:50:38 PM): Well, I imagine a Citizen would not want accusation votes, either, so it is really not telling in either direction.

[Awohali]

spies8Nita (8:40:05 PM): We need you help on #1
Spies8Awohali (8:40:25 PM): Have we not determined that it is one thing or the other?
spies8Nita is available (8:55:48 PM)
spies8Nita (8:59:25 PM): I sayin this to you only cause I think you a cit
spies8Nita (8:59:35 PM): Cinnamyn obviously a past player from how she do in the challenge
spies8Nita (8:59:37 PM): Y she a good one too
spies8Nita (8:59:50 PM): If the spies imprison her for noticin how well she do, I blamin this chat transcript
Spies8Awohali (9:00:16 PM): I do not believe they would Imprison her simply for knowing that she is a past player...
spies8Nita (9:00:16 PM): Comprende?
spies8Nita (9:00:22 PM): It ain't that she a past player
spies8Nita (9:00:25 PM): It that she a GOOD one
spies8Nita (9:00:36 PM): She do so well en the last challenges, but on top of that, she know the game
spies8Nita (9:00:43 PM): If I was a spy I'd imprison her just for that. You?
Spies8Awohali (9:00:47 PM): The chances that we did not have a Spy in the chat room tonight as she performed in the challenge are slim.
spies8Nita (9:00:55 PM): Ain't no point in postin it so people can reread it
spies8Nita (9:01:18 PM): That all I got to say.
Spies8Awohali (9:01:50 PM): A big enough deal has already been made that any Spy most likely has saved the chat alreadyu.
spies8Nita (9:02:16 PM): You sayin it okay to be dumb then
spies8Nita (9:02:20 PM): Why it ever okay to be dumb?
spies8Nita (9:02:24 PM): That a dumb thing to say
spies8Nita (9:02:34 PM): Y you know why a spy would have saved the chat? Cause you runnin your mouth
spies8Nita (9:02:39 PM): Without thinkin
Spies8Awohali (9:03:47 PM): False. You saying that you would tell her the reasons privately raised many red flags in my mind.
spies8Nita (9:04:11 PM): Why you no message me privately?
spies8Nita (9:04:18 PM): Why you make it public? Sometimes I think you ain't thinkin
Spies8Awohali (9:04:35 PM): Why would you not IM her privately rather than announce publicly that you would do so?
spies8Nita (9:04:49 PM): Because I hopin you y Claude smart enough to stop talkin bout it
spies8Nita (9:04:54 PM): Or if you had somethin to say, say it privately
spies8Nita (9:04:56 PM): But I wrong
Spies8Awohali (9:04:59 PM): You have done what you are angry about me doing.
spies8Nita (9:05:15 PM): You keep thinkin that
spies8Nita (9:05:18 PM): I'm out
Spies8Awohali (9:05:26 PM): I know it. I do not merely think it.
spies8Nita (9:05:28 PM): I'm comin back later. I ain't mad, we still got a challenge, so I see you later.
Spies8Awohali (9:05:34 PM): Farewell.

[Awohali]

spies8Nita (11:39:04 PM): If you interested in makin exile real difficult for someone, also known as nominatin, who you gonna nominate?
Spies8Awohali (11:39:46 PM): Currently the top three people I am considering are Magalie, Claude, and Jenny. For different reasons.
Spies8Awohali (11:40:05 PM): Chance is an outlier pending him actually getting onlin.
spies8Nita (11:40:27 PM): I was thinkin Magalie this mornin before I think of this no exile thing
spies8Nita (11:40:44 PM): The way she handle Gertrude real suspicious
Spies8Awohali (11:41:53 PM): She also managed to neatly sabotague our efforts during the flag challenge
spies8Nita (11:42:24 PM): By duckin out y not sayin nothin?
Spies8Awohali (11:42:28 PM): And even if she were to be unrightfully exiled by people that have not talked to her... We would be losing nothing. For 3 episodes, she has done nothing at all
Spies8Awohali (11:42:34 PM): And by getting an assignment of flags...
Spies8Awohali (11:43:08 PM): She got her assignment, so we worked as if those were being worked on, but they were not. I am not sure if it made the difference, but it hurt. And it is absolutely not your fault, but all hers.
spies8Nita (11:43:37 PM): I ask her beforehand if she gonna do it, y she say she ready
Spies8Awohali (11:43:53 PM): Exactly. But she let us down.
spies8Nita (11:46:33 PM): I also thinkin bout Claude
spies8Nita (11:46:47 PM): Not just cause you say him. You see my post from yesterday
Spies8Awohali (11:47:13 PM): Yes indeed, and it is legit, too.
Spies8Awohali (11:48:37 PM): I was trying to move away from suspecting him until his roleclaim. After that... It did not seem to make sense at all for a Citizen, but makes perfect sense as a Spy.
spies8Nita (11:49:49 PM): I no know where he comin up with the idea that there be more spies on that side
Spies8Awohali (11:50:41 PM): It is a bit of a random thing to say, especially considering that the Reoublicans exiled the first spy, and have 8 people left over from that exile.
spies8Nita (11:51:36 PM): I'm askin him
spies8Nita (11:51:45 PM): He sayin that we exile Alexei only with a few votes
Spies8Awohali (11:52:28 PM): While that may be so, it still does not offer definitive reasoning behind believing they have the most Spies.
spies8Nita (11:52:53 PM): You think this side got a problem with actin?
spies8Nita (11:53:02 PM): I don't mean like actors y actriz, I mean como takin action
Spies8Awohali (11:53:47 PM): I do not believe so, no. We have many proactive people on our team. We also have several who are the exact opposite..
spies8Nita is available (11:56:36 PM)
spies8Nita (11:57:03 PM): Who else? Gertrude still not steppin up?
Spies8Awohali (11:57:47 PM): She is not. Cory also has lingered in the background since Episode 1
Spies8Awohali (11:58:13 PM): And I have not seen much of Rondak or Allan since they joined. I believe you commented earlier that they are not particuarly active.
spies8Nita (11:58:36 PM): They really ain't
spies8Nita (11:58:54 PM): If they post anythin relevant this round I gonna have to buy a new laptop, I might drop mine
spies8Nita (11:59:04 PM): But we see
spies8Nita (11:59:09 PM): I encouragin them to step up
spies8Nita (11:59:20 PM): If the no do it, they gonna have a lot to answer too from everyone
Spies8Awohali (11:59:55 PM): I agree. If they linger throughout the game, they will become a bigger handicap as the active Citizens are Imprisoned or misexiled.

[Awohali]

spies8jenny (8:59:57 PM): Ni-Ni's worried that people that are vets would be targeted by the spies moreso then the new players from what I'm talking to her with. I can understand where she's coming from, although I don't think that's a real issue to worry about.
spies8jenny is available (9:00:47 PM)
Spies8Awohali (9:02:08 PM): I can understand it, too, but I think she is voerreacting heavily.
spies8jenny (9:02:37 PM): I agree, but I'd rather not start a fight about it when we got more important things to deal with.
Spies8Awohali (9:04:08 PM): Agreed. I just think she is silly.
spies8jenny (9:05:29 PM): I'll save the chat for later, just in case by some bit of ridiculousness we need it for some reason.
spies8jenny (9:06:43 PM): No need to cause an argument over it, when I don't think Ni-Ni is a spy anyways, and like I said, we got more important things to argue about if we want to start arguing.
Spies8Awohali (9:06:45 PM): Indeed... That seems like a good po9liy. Although if you are used to psoting all chats, I still see no reason not to.
Spies8Awohali (9:07:01 PM): Nita is more upset with me than she is with you. She made that clear to me in IM's.
spies8jenny (9:07:04 PM): I got it in my confessional
spies8jenny (9:07:29 PM): Okies, I be right back so I can get my sibling.
Spies8Awohali (9:07:44 PM): That sounds like fun, enjoy yourself.
spies8jenny is available (9:22:53 PM)
spies8jenny (9:23:51 PM): I hated that map challenge. It took me about 5 minutes to find those three items, and 20 minutes later we're still figuring out how to write them down.
spies8jenny (9:23:53 PM):
Spies8Awohali (9:26:08 PM): Yes... I hated it as well, epecially since the numbers were uneven.
Spies8Awohali (9:26:25 PM): It would have been a lot less confusing had they matched up on either side and up and down.
spies8jenny (9:26:37 PM): And if we had a system to list it that made sense.
Spies8Awohali (9:27:20 PM): Yes... That could have very well made all the difference for us,
spies8jenny (9:27:31 PM): I'm sure it helped.
Spies8Awohali (9:28:09 PM): We can not worry about it any longer, though, for it is in the past. This last challenge is what matters.
spies8jenny (9:28:25 PM): Hopefully it makes more sense.
spies8jenny (9:28:32 PM): And that the other team all falls asleep.
Spies8Awohali (9:29:16 PM): I am thinking that it will be a very long challenge, since all of tomorrow is given for catching up time.
spies8jenny (9:29:53 PM): Maybe.
spies8jenny is available (11:14:14 PM)
spies8jenny (9:31:58 PM): You know, Maggie left to reboot her computer 2 hours ago, and she still hasn't come back.
spies8jenny (9:32:09 PM): I wonder if something happened to her?
Spies8Awohali (9:32:21 PM): Oh, I know... I noted that. She probably just did not want to participate.
spies8jenny (9:32:36 PM): But she would get more votes on herself if she didn't.
spies8jenny (9:34:43 PM): I dunno what is going on with her.
Spies8Awohali (9:35:16 PM): She does not act... Within reasonable means very often.
spies8jenny is available (10:45:38 PM)
spies8jenny (10:45:38 PM): To be fair, I think Claude had a point earlier, the republicans were having everything happen to them. Some protection on their side could be a good thing.
spies8jenny is available (10:46:08 PM)
Spies8Awohali (10:46:13 PM): It is true, to a degree. Still, I would much rather be deciding who is gone rather than the other team, that I do not know as well.
spies8jenny (10:47:07 PM): Me too, but bright side of things right?
Spies8Awohali (10:48:00 PM): Unless, of course, the SPies really do have a large presence on the other team, and thus will be able to make sure that the immunity is given to people that won't be needing it anyway
spies8jenny (10:48:28 PM): But it also means we'll have more information to go on from that side too.
spies8jenny (10:48:53 PM): From who decides who gets what, in addition to who they eliminate at the final exile.
Spies8Awohali (10:49:06 PM): Yes, I am looking forward to that.
spies8jenny is available (10:53:13 PM)
spies8jenny (11:16:54 PM): Honestly I think that no matter who we put up, unless something super bizzare happens on our side before exile, it'll be on whoever they picked.
Spies8Awohali (11:17:29 PM): That is most likely to be the case... I am fearful that by decidingh to vote No Exile, we are taking away the accountability of everyone on our team this episode.
spies8jenny (11:17:58 PM): That's why I was hoping to try for an idea where we put up a "To the Republicans" topic about our own likely choices.
Spies8Awohali (11:18:21 PM): That may be a good compromise.
spies8jenny (11:19:09 PM): A few people shot it down though because there'd still be lack of personal communication, but really there isn't any perfect way of doing this.
Spies8Awohali (11:20:10 PM): Indeed, I did mention that there would still be no communication between our nominee and some of the other team
spies8jenny (11:20:11 PM): We're either going to end up doing a No exile on our side, and just have the Democrats freemason it for the next few days, or we're going to have to put up someone that several people on the other side will not have met.
Spies8Awohali (11:21:12 PM): Yes... Neither option is ideal.
Spies8Awohali (11:21:17 PM): But it is the popsition we are in.
spies8jenny is available (11:30:22 PM)
spies8jenny (11:31:11 PM): I really do think Ni-Ni isn't a spy, but she can be aggrivating to talk to sometimes.
Spies8Awohali (11:31:31 PM): She seems to always want her way... Has she been of this mindset the entire game?
spies8jenny is available (11:32:24 PM)
spies8jenny (11:32:39 PM): Yeah, she's rather set in her ways for the most part. I think she means well, but she is rather stubborn.
Spies8Awohali (11:33:13 PM): Indeed... Unfortunately, I automatically butt heads with people that try to enforce their own way. It could be a messy few days.
Spies8Awohali (11:33:25 PM): I just do not like the idea of a wasted episode.
spies8jenny (11:33:45 PM): The last thing we need is any episodes happening of a reborn freemason team.
Spies8Awohali (11:34:23 PM): I am not sure of what you are referring to.
spies8jenny (11:35:53 PM): Spies7 had teams too. It was based on conspiracy theories, so the teams were Illuminati, and Freemasons. There was one point where they had a similar situation to what we have now, except that everyone would vote between the final two people not just one team, but everyone sort of decided that the Illuminati had more suspicious people, and they'd vote out whoever the Illuminati brought up. That ended up leading to several days of freemasons not even bothering to log on for more then an hour or two at a time, if at all.
Spies8Awohali (11:36:43 PM): Yes... That is a perfect example of what I would like to avoid here. Even if we say that we will not let it happen, it most likely will.
spies8jenny is available (11:36:58 PM)
spies8jenny (11:38:16 PM): That's why I'm hoping that we at least try to have an actual vote, and do our best to at least inform the other team of why the top few suspects people are likely going to vote between are suspicious, and maybe even have those people post something to respond to those suspicions.
spies8jenny (11:39:26 PM): And before you say anything too, Ni-Ni already said the same thing, but yes I know I'd likely be one of those people that would be brought up, and it'll stink to be me for a while if we end up doing that, but it's still better then having half the game sit on our hands and watch paint dry.
spies8jenny (11:39:53 PM): "My that shade of blue is really drying quite well don't you think?"
Spies8Awohali (11:41:34 PM): Yes, I do agree with you in this regard, and you are one of the people I would consider nominating, though there are other likely candidates in my mind.
spies8jenny (11:45:35 PM): The other disturbing similarity is that both of these instances are right after a break. Last time it came up, some of the freemasons even went as far to say that they were on an extended break for the time being.
spies8jenny (11:45:51 PM): And even shot down one of the cits that was trying to promote discussion.
Spies8Awohali (11:46:08 PM): And we even have a few people still on extended breaks, such as Chance.
spies8jenny (11:50:50 PM): Lucky at least announecd he'd be out in that away thread.
spies8jenny (11:51:00 PM): Looks like he should be back tomorrow according to it.
Spies8Awohali (11:51:10 PM): Indeed, and apparently he has returned as of several minutes ago.
spies8jenny (11:51:16 PM): Well that's good.
Spies8Awohali (11:51:31 PM): It certainly i.
spies8jenny is available (12:13:16 AM)
spies8jenny (12:16:15 AM): Like I said. She means well, but she's rather stubborn.
Spies8Awohali (12:18:30 AM): Yes she is.

[Awohali]

sorintheseeker (10:42:52 PM): Unfortunately, I have bad news. Just a few minutes before you posted that list the Republicans crossed the finish line.
spies8claude (10:42:53 PM): Which ones are incorrect?
spies8claude (10:42:55 PM): sigh
spies8jenny (10:42:56 PM): Rats.
spies8Nita (10:43:00 PM): oh no
sorintheseeker (10:43:07 PM): You guys fought it out so hard and came so far, you did really well.
spies8jenny (10:43:14 PM): Yeah that's what happens with 15 minutes ahead, and less people over here.
spies8Nita (10:43:19 PM): We down many people y 15 minute late start
spies8claude (10:43:30 PM): Honestly, it's really discouraging that they won the entire contest simply by winning the first part.
spies8allan (10:43:35 PM) has left the room.
spies8claude (10:43:36 PM): But w/e, time to move on.
spies8Nita (10:43:43 PM): Si. We came so close yesterday y again with this one
spies8allan (10:43:50 PM) has entered the room.
spies8jenny (10:43:53 PM): Really though that map would have killed us anyways I think.
spies8jenny (10:44:02 PM): The coordinates on that were a mess.
spies8Nita (10:44:05 PM): Si, true
spies8allan (10:44:27 PM): all of my roomates are screaming at each other right now
spies8jenny (10:44:28 PM): For now, let's just do our best to get the best canadate from our side up.
spies8claude (10:44:41 PM): best candidate from our side up for what
spies8jenny (10:44:53 PM): Only one person is getting exiled, but both teams are voting on a person.
Spies8Awohali (10:44:54 PM): Exile.
sorintheseeker (10:44:58 PM): thanks so much for participating =) unfortunately the Republicans will be the ones who decide who ultimately is Exiled after both players are nominated. 2 of their members will be made Immune from Imprisonment 4, and one will receive an ultimate power.
spies8jenny (10:45:04 PM): Once the two people are up, the winning team from this decides between the two.
sorintheseeker (10:45:13 PM): Exile 3 will be at 10:00 PM CDT Thursday
spies8claude (10:46:05 PM): Very swingy reward, Sam.
spies8jenny (10:46:08 PM): Thanks Spice for putting up that image search site.
spies8Nita (10:46:20 PM): Si, it really good idea
spies8claude (10:46:53 PM): So really what this means, is that I won't be able to get chance lynched AGAIN
spies8claude (10:47:01 PM): I kind of want to stab myself with a pen
spies8Nita (10:47:34 PM): I too upset to stab nothin
spies8cinnamyn (10:47:40 PM): i kinda jus' want 2 scream cuz i feel lyke we tryed dam hard
spies8Nita (10:47:41 PM): I really want the democrats to win that one
spies8Nita (10:47:49 PM): Si
spies8Nita (10:47:52 PM): I wanna know by how much we lose?
spies8cinnamyn (10:48:09 PM): cuz we had 6 ppl in here 2 they 11 n' we did fukkin gud
spies8allan (10:48:15 PM): well, i just hope the other team the citz are really organized
spies8cinnamyn (10:48:16 PM): wit' a 15 min penalty
spies8Nita (10:48:36 PM): It take us 9:42 - 9:14
Spies8Awohali (10:48:37 PM): We can thank our teammates for not showing up...
spies8Nita (10:48:45 PM): I no believe Rondak leave like that
Spies8Awohali (10:48:46 PM): Or for showing up long enough to get an assignment, not do it, and then leave.
spies8Nita (10:48:48 PM): Y Hambone no come
spies8Nita (10:48:57 PM): Y magalie leave
spies8allan (10:49:00 PM): youre welcome
sorintheseeker (10:49:16 PM) has left the room.
spies8Nita (10:49:17 PM): 28 minutes for 6 people to find 50 flags
spies8Nita (10:49:24 PM): 47 flags
spies8allan (10:49:31 PM): i'm sad i missed it... i love geo
Spies8Awohali (10:49:34 PM): I would have much rather Magalie have not shown up at all, than to be assigned 5 flags and then split.
spies8Nita (10:50:09 PM): I doin it in a spreadsheet so I easily see which missin y line everythin up
spies8Nita (10:50:17 PM): Y that way I no have to type out numbers 1-50
spies8Nita (10:50:22 PM): How much organized they be?
spies8claude (10:50:52 PM): Magalie said that someone 'had' to use her computer.
spies8claude (10:51:05 PM): Just like earlier when it took her 2 hours to reboot.
Spies8Awohali (10:51:10 PM): Yes...
spies8Nita (10:51:35 PM): So we got 2 days to decide who to nominate
spies8claude (10:51:35 PM): So
spies8cinnamyn (10:51:36 PM): wutever, spiez wud want dis jus' az much az citz rite.?
spies8claude (10:51:40 PM): Unique situation.
spies8Nita (10:51:45 PM): Si, por supesto, of course
spies8Nita (10:51:51 PM): Everyone want ultimate power, includin spies
spies8claude (10:51:56 PM): I think we should consider voting No Exile this round.
spies8cinnamyn (10:51:56 PM): so i aint gonna dog nobody 4 not showin' up, we did our best
Spies8Awohali (10:52:05 PM): She is as useful as a 50% off coupon at a free buffet
spies8Nita (10:52:05 PM): Claude, that funnyu
spies8claude (10:52:10 PM): No, I'm serious.
spies8Nita (10:52:12 PM): That way they forced to exile their top suspect
spies8Nita (10:52:29 PM): Bad if the spies control the republicans
spies8cinnamyn (10:52:43 PM): lmbo awohali
spies8claude (10:52:46 PM): Exactly.
spies8Nita (10:53:01 PM): After a hard fought battle, with only five minutes separating the teams...
spies8allan (10:53:04 PM): i would be for that, if i trusted anyone over there
spies8Nita (10:53:04 PM): You kiddin me
spies8jenny (10:53:13 PM): Yeah...
spies8allan (10:53:23 PM): but i guess i just don't see that group exiling a spy
spies8Nita (10:53:27 PM): They got 5 more people plus a 15 minute head start
spies8allan (10:53:48 PM): so i guess the question is do we want to lose a cit from our side or a cit from theirs
spies8Nita (10:53:54 PM): Hey.
spies8Nita (10:53:56 PM): I no like that question
spies8Nita (10:54:03 PM): There spies everywhere, 6 of them
spies8Nita (10:54:05 PM): Y we gonna get one
spies8jenny (10:54:10 PM): How about we just not lose cits? I like that option.
Spies8Awohali (10:54:11 PM): We can not be in a defeatist mindset
spies8allan (10:54:17 PM): doesn't matter if the spies control the other side
spies8cinnamyn (10:54:21 PM): we r all winnerz in my large, fried-food-lovin, clogged up heart
spies8allan (10:54:28 PM): i'm not, i'm just in a defensive position
spies8Nita (10:54:34 PM): Maybe they no control that side. I just sayin, it possible
Spies8Awohali (10:54:35 PM): They have 12 members. All 6 Spies over there would still not have a majority
spies8claude (10:54:38 PM): I think the spies control that side. The Exile 2 vote was what, 8 votes?
spies8claude (10:54:44 PM): That is almost always a spy-lead wagon.,
spies8jenny (10:54:52 PM): It would take every single spy to get even half the vote over there. And I doubt they have every single spy.
spies8claude (10:54:55 PM): AFK about 10 mins.
spies8claude (10:55:08 PM): Gotta run and get my wife some cigarettes..stupid habit.
spies8jenny (10:55:09 PM): There's still a chance of getting a spy exiled, we just have to be smart about it.
spies8allan (10:55:41 PM): the problem is, if we convict a cit this time and they don't go,
spies8Nita (10:55:50 PM): (9:37:14 PM) sorintheseeker: 50/50 correct.
(9:37:20 PM) spies8dane: SCHWEET
spies8allan (10:55:52 PM): their gonna feel completely alienated from the team
spies8allan (10:56:00 PM): they're*
Spies8Awohali (10:56:13 PM): They will have to grow thicker skin.
spies8Nita (10:56:30 PM): I think not wantin to hurt someone's feelings es a bad way to play this game
spies8Nita (10:56:35 PM): Everyone know we here to find spies
spies8allan (10:56:39 PM): thats not what i'm saying
spies8allan (10:56:46 PM): nevermind
Spies8Awohali (10:57:21 PM): I would like to hear where you are coming from, Allan. Please do not feel that you should not share your opinion
spies8allan (10:58:15 PM): no its fine
spies8cinnamyn (10:59:26 PM): i think da no exile iz an interestin' opshin, but i dont really feel comfortable wit dat, i dont really c how dis round will b n e difrent 4 us, we jus' gotta try 2 catch a spy lyke we alwayz gotta do
spies8cinnamyn (10:59:35 PM): rite.?
spies8Nita (10:59:43 PM): It complicated
spies8Nita (10:59:51 PM): Porque we no know which side have how many spies
spies8Nita (11:00:03 PM): If the Republicans full of them, there a better chance they nominate a spy?
Spies8Awohali (11:00:14 PM): I am in agreement here. While I can see why it is at least worth considering, it also harms us by not giving us any idea how people would vote.
spies8cinnamyn (11:01:12 PM): well, do we think republicanz have more spiez.? i thot only claude thot dat
spies8Nita (11:01:26 PM): There another problem
spies8Nita (11:01:43 PM): Let's say we nominate a former republican, well 5 people on that side ain't never met that perosn
Spies8Awohali (11:01:44 PM): I suspect enough people over here to believe that even if they have more Spies, it is probably not a large difference
spies8Nita (11:01:53 PM): Let's say we nominate a former democrat, well 8 people on that side ain't never met that person
spies8allan (11:01:57 PM): idk how many spies are on each team, but i do feel the shadier people are on the rep side
spies8Nita (11:02:10 PM): They forced to go after a current democrat, everyone able to talk to that person y interrogate y collect evidence
Spies8Awohali (11:02:25 PM): That is a valid point, Nita.
spies8Nita (11:02:37 PM): If we tell them upfront "we votin no exile, this be a normal exile for you" then they treat it like one
spies8cinnamyn (11:02:49 PM): hmmm
spies8allan (11:02:54 PM): i think its actually a descent option
spies8Nita (11:03:00 PM): It ain't fair for whoever nominated as a democrat to not be able to defend yourself directly
spies8allan (11:03:00 PM): and we can kinda just observe what they do
spies8Nita (11:03:11 PM): No talkin to them or postin
spies8cinnamyn (11:03:40 PM): wut if dey do da same 2 us
spies8Nita (11:03:44 PM): Not if we post first
spies8cinnamyn (11:03:47 PM): lmbo.!
spies8Nita (11:03:55 PM): I serious
spies8cinnamyn (11:03:55 PM): den we gotta decide quik
spies8Nita (11:04:00 PM): If we tell them what we doin, then they know
Spies8Awohali (11:04:21 PM): Are we sure that Sam will allow us to vote No Exile in a case where it is for a Nomination Vote and not an actual Exile vote?
spies8Nita (11:04:36 PM): Right now we got 7 of 13 democrats in the chat
spies8Nita (11:04:46 PM): If we all agreein to no exile, then Sam gonna tell us
spies8Nita (11:04:49 PM): Si o no
spies8jenny (11:05:08 PM): I look away for 5 seconds and we're on no exile? Let me catch up on what I missed.
spies8Nita (11:05:20 PM): Jenny I summarize
spies8Nita (11:05:28 PM): Let's say we democrats nominate a former republican
spies8Nita (11:05:37 PM): 5 of the democrats ain't never talked to that person
spies8Nita (11:06:03 PM): I mean 5 of the republicans aint' never talked
spies8Nita (11:06:05 PM): Let's say we democrats nominate a former democrat, 8 of the republicans ain't never talked to that person
spies8Nita (11:06:15 PM): That a good idea?
spies8Nita (11:06:28 PM): Not to mention, whoever nominated from this side, they no get to defend themselves o answer questions or nothin
spies8Nita (11:06:35 PM): Since we ain't allowed to talk to the republicans
spies8claude (11:06:48 PM): Back
spies8cinnamyn (11:06:58 PM): doez n e body no da post where sam talked bout no exile.?
spies8cinnamyn (11:07:12 PM): i cant find it
spies8Nita (11:07:50 PM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg&thread=281&page=1#726
spies8jenny (11:07:57 PM): I would think it would be like I was telling you before in the case that we won this, that we would have to pay attention to both sides specifically because we might otherwise have that exact issue.
spies8Nita (11:08:00 PM): When teams go away voting "No Exile" will no longer be an option.
spies8cinnamyn (11:08:01 PM): ah.! thank u
spies8Nita (11:08:09 PM): Teams still here, so I'm guessin it still okay
spies8allan (11:08:10 PM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=281
spies8jenny (11:08:16 PM): So I guess part of it is, how much do we think the other team will be willing to look at what we bring up?
spies8Nita (11:08:17 PM): Because there is a (incredibly slim) possibility of their being no Spies on your randomly decided team, you are allowed to vote No Exile for the time being.
spies8Nita (11:08:20 PM): Teams still random
spies8allan (11:08:44 PM): mmhmm
spies8Nita (11:08:49 PM): I'm gonna say I think 2 days no es enough time to catch up on what go on in 2.5 rounds of the game
spies8Nita (11:08:53 PM): On the other side
spies8cinnamyn (11:09:09 PM): luk at it frum da other perspective, wut wud we do if we won.? wud we luk at they shit.? i wud b more focused on exillin' a spy ova here
spies8Nita (11:09:22 PM): So we make it easier for them
spies8jenny (11:09:25 PM): I would have.
spies8Nita (11:09:29 PM): We tell them "You doin a normal exile"
spies8claude (11:09:31 PM): I think it is very likely that their side has 4+ spies.
spies8cinnamyn (11:09:33 PM): i wud have 2, but it wud cum secund 2 my team
spies8jenny (11:09:38 PM): I'd want to look at both so that we'd have an informed decision.
spies8Nita (11:09:48 PM): Claude we got no way of knowin that
spies8Nita (11:09:53 PM): But that person no able to defend themselves
spies8claude (11:09:54 PM): I know
spies8cinnamyn (11:10:58 PM): i luked at da imprizinment chat frum dem, at imprizinment sumbodie didnt even no who magalie wuz frum her picshure, n' she wud b a hot topic 4 our exile, im guessin'
spies8jenny (11:11:12 PM): If we know who is likely to be our top few suspects for our side of the vote, what if we made a topic specifically meant for Republican reading that put up the pros and cons against those people, as detailed as we could make it, and let the people that are put up be able to make their cases about the things that are said to be suspicious about them in it.
spies8jenny (11:11:39 PM): That way whoever comes up, they would at least have some idea about why we put them there.
spies8allan (11:11:41 PM): but if they feel strongly about their choice
Spies8Awohali (11:11:46 PM): There would still be no element of personal conversation. I, for one, never feel comfortable voting for someone I ahve not talked to.
spies8allan (11:11:47 PM): they should exile who they pick
spies8jenny (11:11:53 PM): If they feel strongly about their choice, it won't matter who we put up.
spies8Nita (11:11:54 PM): I'm agreein with Awohali
spies8cinnamyn (11:12:26 PM): queschin
Spies8Awohali (11:12:31 PM): In reverse position, if they were to nominate someone I had not met, I would vote for our nominee regardless, unless it was someone I saw as likely to be a Cit
spies8Nita (11:12:47 PM): What if their nominatin process go like the Alexei vote?
spies8Nita (11:12:54 PM): 6-3-2-1-1-1-1 or whatever?
spies8Nita (11:12:59 PM): Then only 6 people supportin their nominee
spies8cinnamyn (11:13:08 PM): doez votin' no exile count az a vote 4 sum1.? meanin, if 12 ppl vote no exile but 1 person sneaks in a vote 4 sum1, will dat person b exiled.?
spies8Nita (11:13:12 PM): Y the rest disagreein y lookin at the person who can't even talk to them to defend themselves
spies8allan (11:13:24 PM): no cinimini
spies8Nita (11:13:32 PM): No exile ain't the sme as no vote
Spies8Awohali (11:13:36 PM): That is a good question, Cinnamyn, I wondered about that myself, but I believe "No Exile" counts as a vote marker
spies8Nita (11:13:37 PM): It's a vote. You votin "no exile"
spies8cinnamyn (11:13:49 PM): so da majority jus' haz 2 vote no exile, im assumin'
spies8jenny (11:13:50 PM): If there are 7 no exile and 1 on superman, it'd still be no exile.
spies8cinnamyn (11:14:05 PM): ok gud didnt want n e crazi shit happenin
spies8Nita (11:14:07 PM): The highest number of votes gotta be "no exile"
spies8cinnamyn (11:14:09 PM): (magalie)
Spies8Awohali (11:14:11 PM): Unless the 1 voter had kryptonite.
spies8jenny (11:14:14 PM): So we wouldn't have to worry about 1 person deciding for the whole team.
spies8Nita (11:14:15 PM): No gotta be majority if vote be real split
spies8cinnamyn (11:14:27 PM): o, yea, i gotchu nita
spies8Nita (11:15:02 PM): Mary?
spies8cinnamyn (11:15:21 PM): well, im startin 2 cum around 2 da idea
spies8cinnamyn (11:15:45 PM): i didnt think i wud but i think dis iz a rare case
spies8Nita (11:15:57 PM): Si, rare
Spies8Awohali (11:16:04 PM): I am still debating it amongst myself.
spies8Nita (11:16:39 PM): Well if we do it, we do it tonight so the Republicans know. I think it fair that way.
spies8Nita (11:16:52 PM): that way they got Wednesday y Thursday to think bout it
spies8claude (11:17:09 PM): ...
spies8claude (11:17:14 PM): I think that defeats the purpose completely
spies8Nita (11:17:35 PM): Why? More time give them more time to make better decision, no?
Spies8Awohali (11:17:55 PM): They should be concerned with maknig a good decision regardless.
spies8cinnamyn (11:18:13 PM): im kind of seein where claudez comin frum
spies8Nita (11:18:35 PM): I disagree cause if there be any spies in this chat now, then the Republican spies gonna know what we doin
Spies8Awohali (11:18:43 PM): Personally I will not be deciding to vote No Exile tonight. I do not make decisions such as that lightly.
spies8mary (11:18:50 PM): I am still working at the hospital but my gut instinct is that this is a bad idea.
spies8Nita (11:18:52 PM): Only ones gonna be surprised gonna be the citizens
Spies8Awohali (11:19:07 PM): We can post that we are considering it.
Spies8Awohali (11:19:20 PM): Then they will be aware that it is a possibility.
spies8mary (11:19:22 PM): I'll be able to talk more about it later, but this robs us of two opportunities to evaluate people's judgment.
spies8claude (11:19:31 PM): How so?
Spies8Awohali (11:19:34 PM): Agreed with Mary.
Spies8Awohali (11:19:43 PM): Nobody is held accountable by having to vote this round.
spies8cinnamyn (11:20:00 PM): but i wud still hold ppl accountable lyke dey wuz goin' 2, but jus' dont
spies8cinnamyn (11:20:03 PM): still make cases n' shit
spies8mary (11:20:14 PM): It doesn't count if you're not voting. It doesn't hold any weight.
spies8mary (11:20:35 PM): And then we'll miss the opportunity to judge the other team based on their decision between the two candidates.
Spies8Awohali (11:20:43 PM): Indeed, I could say I would vote for Mary, even though I have no intention of doing so, and it would not matter.
spies8allan (11:20:44 PM): i gotta go... i'll talk to u later
spies8mary (11:20:46 PM): I have to get back to work but I'm nearby.
Spies8Awohali (11:20:51 PM): Farewell, Allan, and Mary.
spies8Nita (11:20:54 PM): How the other team able to make a good decision if they no talkin to the nominee?
spies8allan (11:20:57 PM) has left the room.
spies8Nita (11:21:14 PM): Y if 5 or 8 of them never met the nominee y ain't been followin what happen on their side?
spies8mary (11:21:30 PM): We watch how our ex-teammates handle it.
spies8mary (11:21:36 PM): At least some people know the candidate.
spies8mary (11:21:42 PM): I really have to go.
spies8Nita (11:21:48 PM): That say more bout laziness y followin than anythin else
spies8Nita (11:21:53 PM): Buenas noches
Spies8Awohali (11:22:00 PM): If we are of the opinion that they will make a good nomination for their own team, then should we not trust them to make a good decision in the vote between the nominees as well?
spies8Nita (11:22:22 PM): No. I tell you why.
spies8cinnamyn (11:22:37 PM): well i can make a god vote 4 prezident of my country but not of anotha, if datz a lykely comparison
spies8cinnamyn (11:22:46 PM): i could follo da otha country, but i could not
spies8Nita (11:22:58 PM): Por ejemplo, we Democrats won the challenge in this scenario. The Republicans, they nominate Isaac
Spies8Awohali (11:23:08 PM): But if you were voting between the president of another country and one of your own, you would at least know if the candidate from your own was good or bad
spies8Nita (11:23:13 PM): I'm tellin you, Allan y Rondak no gonna look up nothin bout the hombre
Spies8Awohali (11:23:29 PM): Magalie would not, either.
spies8Nita (11:23:37 PM): There a bunch of lazy people, no?
spies8Nita (11:23:44 PM): Both sides, republican y democrat, spies y citizens
spies8Nita (11:23:54 PM): No matter who we nominate, at least 5 of them ain't gonna know the person
Spies8Awohali (11:23:57 PM): And that would be something they would have to be held accountable for. But lets face it, some people have not even looked up things when voting for peopleon their own team, anyway.
spies8Nita (11:24:09 PM): Why es this a good thing?
Spies8Awohali (11:24:21 PM): It is not a good thing, but it is a reality.
spies8Nita (11:24:21 PM): Why you sayin "Some people gonna be lazy so let's nominate someone they no know y encourage that"?
spies8Nita (11:24:34 PM): Then they got an excuse
spies8Nita (11:24:42 PM): We make it their exile, they ain't got no excuses
Spies8Awohali (11:24:45 PM): No, they will have to pay for lazy or poor judgment.
spies8jenny (11:24:45 PM): He's not saying that it is, he's saying that certain people might not pay attention no matter what person we're talking about.
spies8Nita (11:25:10 PM): Why you talkin like it independent? Who they exile affect everyone
spies8Nita (11:25:22 PM): Everyone gonna pay for lazy judgment
spies8jenny (11:25:39 PM): They as in the specific person, not they as in the team in general.
spies8Nita (11:25:41 PM): Make it less easy for poor judgment to happen es the best thing
Spies8Awohali (11:25:52 PM): No, the individual people. They will have to answer for their votes if they vote stupidly. However, I am guessing that their candidate will be ultimately Exiled either way.
spies8Nita (11:26:02 PM): You can not know that
Spies8Awohali (11:26:06 PM): And if that is the case, we will be wasting an opportunity to see where our own team truly stands.
spies8Nita (11:26:11 PM): Ain't no way of knowin who they nominatin y who they will choose
Spies8Awohali (11:26:16 PM): And this second point is something that I do know.
spies8Nita (11:26:26 PM): We can do a mock vote y see where people stand. There other ways
Spies8Awohali (11:26:39 PM): Mock votes do not hold weight, because there is no consequence.
spies8Nita (11:26:49 PM): But you hold people to their opinions later, no?
Spies8Awohali (11:26:55 PM): If anything, that would benefit Spies for they could make "good" votes.
spies8Nita (11:27:08 PM): But if they no make those good votes when they got a chance then they busted
spies8Nita (11:27:25 PM): To me this es so clear, I no know how you ain't seein it
Spies8Awohali (11:27:30 PM): It is easy to create excuses later down the road.
Spies8Awohali (11:27:45 PM): To me, it is clear that a mock vote does not have the same weight as a real vote.
spies8Nita (11:28:06 PM): Maybe we talk bout mock votes later Awohali
spies8Nita (11:28:10 PM): That ain't really the issue here, si?
Spies8Awohali (11:28:24 PM): The issue is whether or not our team votes for people.
Spies8Awohali (11:28:39 PM): I personally would like to see how our team votes.
spies8cinnamyn (11:28:44 PM): i dont no, 2 me i wudnt want sum1 i hadnt talked 2 2 vote me 2 b exiled, whether spy or lazy. but i also dont want 2 cop out ova here, which ppl undoubtedly will do
spies8Nita (11:28:48 PM): The issue es, the Republicans - how they gonna make a good choice in this situation?
spies8Nita (11:28:59 PM): No matter who we present there gonna be problems
spies8Nita (11:29:07 PM): So how bout we no present anyone y we tell them that, y then no problems?
Spies8Awohali (11:29:30 PM): Then the problems are on our team rather than theirs.
spies8Nita (11:29:38 PM): That no make sense
spies8jenny (11:29:45 PM): That's the problem we have Spice, we either run the risk of our own team being lazy for the next few days with a no exile majority being set, or we run the risk of the other team not paying attention to who we put up.
Spies8Awohali (11:29:52 PM): It makes perfect sense. We lose information.
spies8Nita (11:30:01 PM): We no lose information. Ain't no way of losin information
spies8Nita (11:30:07 PM): You can't lose information once you got it
spies8jenny (11:30:22 PM): We'd lose information by never getting it in the first place he means.
Spies8Awohali (11:30:23 PM): And over the next few days, we would not be getting it.
spies8Nita (11:30:26 PM): That ain't the same thing
Spies8Awohali (11:30:36 PM): Either way, it is information we could have, but will not.
spies8Nita (11:30:49 PM): You sayin you want to present a candidate so we can have somethin to vote on
Spies8Awohali (11:30:52 PM): Whether or not it is the "Same" thing in theory, it has the same end result.
spies8Nita (11:30:54 PM): That what you sayin
Spies8Awohali (11:31:06 PM): Yes. Otherwise people disappear and we do not get good reads this episode.
spies8Nita (11:31:13 PM): I'm sayin that ain't a good idea because then we just creatin problems with the Republican's vote
spies8Nita (11:31:33 PM): We makin things complicated
spies8Nita (11:31:40 PM): Y real complicated for whoever nominated
Spies8Awohali (11:31:42 PM): They are complicated either way.
spies8jenny (11:31:49 PM): That's why we do the best we can to make sure they are informed about why we are putting up whoever we are thinking of putting up.
spies8Nita (11:31:59 PM): Jenny we can do nothin to make sure they informed.
spies8Nita (11:32:03 PM): That person, they no talk to them
spies8Nita (11:32:07 PM): We can post, but we can't make them read it
spies8Nita (11:32:14 PM): Y we can't discuss our posts wit them cause we no allowed to talk to them
spies8jenny (11:32:14 PM): That's their own fault.
Spies8Awohali (11:32:20 PM): If we trust them to make a good nominee, then we should trust them to get rid of that nominee, and if we trust ourselves to make a good nominee, we should be OK if that nominee isExiled, too.
spies8jenny (11:32:24 PM): And is something we could confront them over down the road.
spies8claude (11:32:43 PM): I feel like Spies were in control of the repubs yesterday.
spies8claude (11:32:50 PM): And still are.
spies8Nita (11:32:56 PM): Claude, we ain't got no way of knowin what's even goin on there
spies8Nita (11:33:03 PM): Why you sayin that? Also you gettin us off topic
spies8cinnamyn (11:33:07 PM): if it werent dis situashin, wudnt u think sum1 wuz suspishis 4 votin' 4 sum1 dey didnt talk 2.? i jus' think we can avoid dat, if we luk at our opshinz
spies8claude (11:33:13 PM): No, I'm getting to my point.
spies8claude (11:33:24 PM): If we nominate a citizen and spies arei n control on that side, they will just exile our citizen
Spies8Awohali (11:33:47 PM): Claude... If the Spies are in control over there, then they will nominate a Citizen as well.
spies8claude (11:33:48 PM): If we nominate a spy and spies are in control, they're not going to exile the spy anyway.
spies8Nita (11:33:50 PM): That would happen, si. But the problem wit your argument is we no know if the spies in control of that side o no
spies8claude (11:33:54 PM): I don't think that they are.
spies8claude (11:34:03 PM): You guys had like 8 people voting Savannah yesterday
spies8claude (11:34:06 PM): That is a spy lead lynch
spies8claude (11:34:18 PM): On Day 1, Alexei had what, 1 vote more than anyone else?
spies8Nita (11:34:28 PM): Alexei have 6 y Dane have 2
spies8Nita (11:34:30 PM): No
spies8Nita (11:34:32 PM): Zedekiah have 4
spies8claude (11:34:40 PM): 2 votes more
spies8claude (11:34:50 PM): yesterday Savannah had what, 8? And the next person had 2.
Spies8Awohali (11:35:11 PM): That was partially skewed by the role claim.
spies8claude (11:35:53 PM): How so?
Spies8Awohali (11:35:53 PM): From what I have come to understand, many bandwagoned onto her after Allan, the next highest vote getter originally, had the existence of his role outed.
spies8jenny (11:36:58 PM): Yeah, before I brought up Al, the votes were around 4 or 5 on each.
spies8cinnamyn (11:40:03 PM): www.youtube.com/user/Nichole337#p/u/120/7BVvNE78lyc
spies8cinnamyn (11:40:10 PM): herez yallz reward 4 our challenge performince
Spies8Awohali (11:40:41 PM): This is delightful.
spies8cinnamyn (11:41:28 PM): ur welcum
spies8claude (11:42:12 PM): /me hugs Cinnamyn
spies8claude (11:47:13 PM): Now no one is talking
Spies8Awohali (11:47:23 PM): We are all mesmerized.
spies8cinnamyn (11:48:04 PM): mezmerizin' u wit dat video wuz ackshully a spy plot of mine
spies8cinnamyn (11:48:06 PM): i c itz workin
spies8cinnamyn (11:48:13 PM): heeeehehehehehe
Spies8Awohali (11:48:52 PM): You have gained control of my mind, Cinnamyn.
spies8cinnamyn (11:49:05 PM): gud
spies8cinnamyn (11:49:13 PM): now i command u 2 cuk me up sum pork rindz n chitlins
spies8cinnamyn (11:49:19 PM): dis challenge made me dam hungri
Spies8Awohali (11:49:21 PM): At once, my lady.
spies8cinnamyn (11:49:29 PM): aw shit i cud get used 2 dis
Spies8Awohali (11:49:37 PM): I will also pick a watermellon.
spies8cinnamyn (11:49:52 PM): aight but if it got blak seedz imma b pist
Spies8Awohali (11:50:14 PM): I will inspect it before serving it.
spies8cory (11:53:56 PM) has entered the room.
spies8jenny (11:54:01 PM): Hi cory!
spies8cory (11:54:04 PM): Going for a record time there Jenny?
spies8jenny (11:54:19 PM): Just inviting you in.
spies8cory (11:54:23 PM): Lol.
spies8cory (11:54:36 PM): Sorry I couldn't make the final part.
spies8jenny (11:54:47 PM): We lost by 5 minutes.
spies8cory (11:54:57 PM): Damn. Despite a 15 minute delay?
spies8Nita (11:55:01 PM): Si
spies8Nita (11:55:05 PM): Y they had 11 people, we only 6
spies8jenny (11:55:08 PM): And that was with having about a 5 person handicap
spies8cory (11:55:14 PM): Damn.
spies8jenny (11:55:16 PM): and 15 minutes delay
spies8cory (11:55:20 PM): If we hadn't messed up the unicorn
spies8cory (11:55:22 PM): I think we'd have won
spies8Nita (11:55:30 PM): No we probably stuck on the map, Jenny right
spies8jenny (11:55:31 PM): Nah, the map killed us I think.
spies8Nita (11:55:35 PM): They probably won that by a lot, no?
spies8jenny (11:55:37 PM): Those lousy coordinates.
spies8cory (11:55:42 PM): True
spies8Nita (11:55:44 PM): But we real close on the flags
spies8cory (11:56:00 PM): That damn map. Lol.
spies8cinnamyn (11:56:08 PM): letz not talk bout da map
spies8jenny (11:56:13 PM): Took 5 minutes to find 3 of the items, and 20 minutes to figure out how to mark them.
spies8cory (11:56:14 PM): Ok.
spies8cory (11:56:17 PM): Let's talk about the planets
spies8cory (11:56:20 PM): Or not.
spies8Nita (11:56:21 PM): I never want to hear the word "map" o "el mapa" again
spies8Nita (11:56:29 PM): O PLANETAS
spies8cory (11:56:33 PM): Lol!
spies8Nita (11:56:36 PM): That off limits too, comprende?
spies8cory (11:56:47 PM): Let's not talk about the challenge.
spies8cinnamyn (11:57:00 PM): well..
spies8cinnamyn (11:57:08 PM): u mist sum discushin bout wut we doin now
spies8cory (11:57:17 PM): What are we doing, cinnabuns?
spies8cinnamyn (11:57:27 PM): we don' no
spies8jenny (11:57:29 PM): There's debate on if we should do a no exile and force the republicans to treat this like a normal exile.
spies8jenny (11:57:44 PM): or if we should go ahead put up a canadate of our own.
spies8cory (11:57:57 PM): Hmmm
spies8jenny (11:58:31 PM): If we do No Exile, we run the risk of our team getting lazy for the next few days and we get no information over here.

If we nominate someone, there will be people on the other team that will never have met them in person, even if we provide them information about our suspicions.
spies8cory (11:59:08 PM): Five people from this team moved over there
spies8cory (11:59:35 PM): And something tells me none of the newcomers would get nominated anyway
spies8cory (11:59:43 PM): Still
spies8cinnamyn (12:00:08 AM): i dont no, 4 me it wud b weird if we won n' i had 2 choose between sum1 ova here n say..themba o stephanie
spies8Nita (12:00:18 AM): Si, I agree
spies8Nita (12:00:23 AM): without even talkin to them
spies8cory (12:00:40 AM): Right
spies8cinnamyn (12:00:48 AM): i mean, id try my best
spies8jenny (12:00:49 AM): I was talking to Ni-Ni about it yesterday, that if we won the challenge we'd have to be sure we paid attention to both sides suspicions so that we'd have an informed decision when we had to decide.
spies8cinnamyn (12:00:50 AM): but ya no
spies8cinnamyn (12:01:11 AM): u 2 wud b informed n e way tho lmbo, not errybody b lyke u iz
spies8Nita (12:01:12 AM): Es easier for us Jenny. Unless they nominated one of their 5 new people, we ain't gotta catch up
spies8Nita (12:01:20 AM): But then we have the burden of catchin up the 8 old democrats
spies8cory (12:01:22 AM): Ultimately only one person gets exiled in the end
spies8cory (12:01:40 AM): Chances are whoever we nominate from here, they wouldn't really have a good idea on why.
spies8cory (12:02:05 AM) has left the room.
spies8cory (12:02:19 AM) has entered the room.
spies8cory (12:02:23 AM): Lol woops
spies8jenny (12:03:05 AM): Which is why I say that if we do that, we should make a topic specifically for the other team that lists the different reasons why we are worried about those people, and give them a chance to respond to them, so that they at least have some idea. It's not perfect, but neither is just deciding to have a No Exile and have our team just sit around watching paint dry.
spies8cory (12:03:21 AM): Well
spies8Nita (12:03:26 AM): Y I disagree
spies8cinnamyn (12:03:29 AM): i dont think wed watch paint dry..
spies8cory (12:03:29 AM): If we go with a no exile we'd have to make sure we don't get lazy
spies8cory (12:03:37 AM): Simple as that.
Spies8Awohali (12:03:45 AM): Which is far easier said than done.
spies8cory (12:03:54 AM): True, but I think we could handle it
spies8jenny (12:03:57 AM): I'm just worried about that happening, since that is EXACTLY what happened when this same situation came up last game.
Spies8Awohali (12:04:23 AM): Even if a few of us are not lazy, we learn nothing in terms of voting.
spies8jenny (12:04:23 AM): everyone decided to just vote whoever the other team came up with, and then treated the next few days like a break, going so far as to shoot down one of the cits that was trying to promote discussion.
spies8mary (12:05:08 AM): I'm back for a moment.
spies8jenny (12:05:21 AM): Hi Mary!
spies8mary (12:05:30 AM): It's a mess here at the hospital.
Spies8Awohali (12:05:32 AM): Welcome back, Mary.
spies8Nita (12:05:41 AM): Hola Mary
spies8mary (12:05:53 AM): Someone stabbed a doctor in the eye with a metal spike and they're all running around looking for the culprit.
spies8jenny (12:06:00 AM): That sounds bad.
spies8cory (12:06:03 AM): Poor doc
spies8mary (12:06:24 AM): What are the current thoughts on this no exile idea?
Spies8Awohali (12:06:31 AM): I bet that he did not see that coming. Or maybe he did.
spies8mary (12:06:41 AM): Oh, I think he did.
spies8Nita (12:06:43 AM): Groan otra vez
Spies8Awohali (12:06:44 AM): But I doubt that he saw it going.
spies8mary (12:06:52 AM): He wasn't a very good man.
spies8cinnamyn (12:06:53 AM): awohali u b da punniest persun in da game, i think
spies8mary (12:07:16 AM): Dr. Crowhurst. He told a lot of lies to people.
Spies8Awohali (12:07:16 AM): Perhaps I have a role and I get points every time I make an inane pun.
spies8Nita (12:07:20 AM): Awohali against no exile because he think we lose the chance to gain information y he think the Republicans all gonna do their homework y be held accountable if they don't
spies8mary (12:07:39 AM): I agree with Awohali.
spies8mary (12:07:47 AM): What's the other argument?
spies8Nita (12:07:48 AM): Cinnamyn on the fence because she no like the idea of bein in the situation where she gotta vote for or against someone she never met o get the chance to talk to
spies8Nita (12:08:14 AM): I for no exile because I think whoever be nominated from this side ain't gonna get a fair chance to defend themselves, plus I no think everyone gonna educate themselves on the nominee
spies8jenny (12:08:17 AM): I'm against No Exile for reasons I just mentioned, as well as what Hali said.
spies8mary (12:08:43 AM): I wouldn't mind tossing them Chance or Magalie.
spies8Nita (12:08:50 AM): That's the point though Mary, si?
spies8Nita (12:09:04 AM): We give them an easy exile, they gonna treat it like one
spies8Nita (12:09:09 AM): How that gainin information?
spies8mary (12:09:15 AM): Is Chance an easy exile?
spies8mary (12:09:18 AM): Is Magalie?
spies8Nita (12:09:25 AM): Till this round I know nothin bout neither
spies8jenny (12:09:31 AM): Because then we get to question them about why they picked one person over the other.
spies8Nita (12:09:36 AM): There 8 people on that side who know nothin bout them either
Spies8Awohali (12:09:39 AM): I imagine that both would spark interesting discussions on the other team
spies8mary (12:09:55 AM): Does your old team trust you, Nita?
spies8Nita (12:10:03 AM): Ain't for me to say
spies8Nita (12:10:07 AM): They trust whoever they want
spies8mary (12:10:09 AM): I imagine our old friends over there trust us to an extent.
spies8cinnamyn (12:10:19 AM): but wut wud we learn frum who dey pick, really.? dey wud jus' say "i luked at da forum posts n' agreed", we cant learn much frum dere if dey neva done talked 2 da persun
spies8mary (12:10:25 AM): We make a case and they know us, they evaluate it.
spies8jenny (12:10:29 AM): "You voted for your nomination and then you switched, why do that?" or "You didn't vote your nomination, but went with your side's nomination in the end. How come?"
spies8mary (12:10:47 AM): There are three exiles worth of information at stake.
Spies8Awohali (12:10:49 AM): The way I see it...
spies8mary (12:10:54 AM): And you're suggesting we pitch away two.
spies8Nita (12:10:59 AM): I think there 3 excuses for laziness at stake
spies8mary (12:11:07 AM): Every exile is an excuse for laziness.
spies8Nita (12:11:09 AM): Instead we hold the Republicans accountable for makin a good choice
Spies8Awohali (12:11:12 AM): If we send a former Demcorat, there are 5 people that will have to discuss legitimately who to vote for, for they will know both.
spies8Nita (12:11:14 AM): This one es a special case Mary
Spies8Awohali (12:11:20 AM): If we send a former Republican, there are 8 who must do so.
spies8Nita (12:11:24 AM): Ain't never gonna happen like this again
spies8jenny (12:11:24 AM): They're already accountable for making a good choice!
Spies8Awohali (12:11:29 AM): If we send nobody, they only have to discuss one set of votes.
spies8Nita (12:11:36 AM): Not when 8 of the 13 voters know nothin bout the nominee
spies8Nita (12:11:43 AM): Or 5 of the 13
spies8Nita (12:11:53 AM): 12 voters, my bad
Spies8Awohali (12:12:00 AM): If 8/13 know nothing, then there are still 5 who do
spies8Nita (12:12:05 AM): I still countin Gabriel
Spies8Awohali (12:12:11 AM): Ah, that is true.
spies8jenny (12:12:15 AM): 12, Gabe-Gabe is gone.
Spies8Awohali (12:12:23 AM): And if 5/12 know nothing, then there are still 7 who do
Spies8Awohali (12:12:44 AM): If we send nobody, then 0/12 have anything to debate after their nomination
spies8Nita (12:12:49 AM): So you sayin if we had won you'd say "I got enough information to decide bout the Republican nominee"? Cause I think that ain't the truth
spies8cory (12:12:49 AM): Either way there are people who are making uneducated decisions
Spies8Awohali (12:12:57 AM): Even if it is only 5/12, I see that as better than 0/12
spies8jenny (12:13:16 AM): I'd do my best to do exactly that, yes.
Spies8Awohali (12:13:21 AM): No, I am saying that if we had one and they sent a Former Democrat, I would know enough about them to vote
spies8Nita (12:13:27 AM): If we make it democrat only we make it 12/12 makin an informed decision
spies8Nita (12:13:32 AM): republican only i mean
Spies8Awohali (12:13:36 AM): And if theys ent a former Republican, I trust that you would know
Spies8Awohali (12:13:51 AM): Those 12/12 will still have to make that same informed decision if we send someone, in the initial nomination vote.
spies8Nita (12:14:15 AM): You sayin you trust Rondak y Allan enough to educate you?
spies8Nita (12:14:25 AM): Y you trust their equivalents on the other side?
Spies8Awohali (12:14:39 AM): No.... I am saying I am educated on 5 players on the other team
spies8cinnamyn (12:14:43 AM): aw shit deyz a fukkin moth in dis piece
spies8cinnamyn (12:14:58 AM): b rite bak
spies8cinnamyn (12:15:00 AM): killin it
spies8Nita (12:15:02 AM): Awohali I clearly ain't gonna convince you tonight
Spies8Awohali (12:15:08 AM): If we send a Democrat nomination, there will be 5 over there that do know enough to make an informed decision.
spies8Nita (12:15:12 AM): Cory got enough to read y decide for himself
Spies8Awohali (12:15:16 AM): 5 is more than 0.
spies8Nita (12:15:17 AM): So I ain't wastin more of my time
spies8cory (12:15:35 AM): Tough call
Spies8Awohali (12:15:35 AM): You would rather end the discussion rather than explore it further?
spies8Nita (12:15:46 AM): Si. You like talkin to a brick wall, you trustin everybody spies y all
spies8Nita (12:15:55 AM): At least on this subject
Spies8Awohali (12:16:14 AM): You are not even comprehending correctly what I am saying, or you would not have said that.
spies8Nita (12:16:23 AM): I know what you sayin. I read it.
spies8Nita (12:16:49 AM): You sayin some people gonna start uninformed but that okay, there be people who can inform them
Spies8Awohali (12:16:50 AM): Clearly not. You believe I am arguing that the people on the other team that know the candidate we send could inform the others about the candidate?
Spies8Awohali (12:17:02 AM): Right.. Only that is not at all what I am saying.
Spies8Awohali (12:17:22 AM): I am saying that regardless of who we send, there will be people over there that are forced to make two informed decisions rather than one.
spies8Nita (12:17:30 AM): You forget that there spies
spies8Nita (12:17:36 AM): what if the people who know them be spies?
Spies8Awohali (12:17:45 AM): If we send a Republican, there are 7 people over there that have no excuse not to cxonsider both nominees.
spies8Nita (12:17:55 AM): We ain't talkin some regular vote out game, we playin some game where 6 people here are supposed to deceive y lie
Spies8Awohali (12:18:05 AM): What if? We can not account for who is or is not a Spy.
spies8Nita (12:18:12 AM): That's where you flawed Awohali
spies8mary (12:18:24 AM): We find the spies by watching them deceive and lie.
spies8Nita (12:18:26 AM): You gotta account for the presence of the spies
Spies8Awohali (12:18:44 AM): How is that a bad thing? The Spies are put to two tests instead of one.
Spies8Awohali (12:19:00 AM): They must make two votes instead of one, and come up with reasons for two votes instead of one.
spies8mary (12:19:15 AM): If we accidentally tempt them with a juicy citizen, one may make a mistake and bite.
spies8Nita (12:19:21 AM): You thinkin of it that way but you ain't puttin the ignorance factor in now
Spies8Awohali (12:19:23 AM): Anything that forces Spies to make more actions is a good thing./
spies8Nita (12:19:24 AM): You can't do it both ways
Spies8Awohali (12:19:40 AM): If they are ignorant then we will determine that later.
Spies8Awohali (12:19:52 AM): I for one know that not all of the former Demcorats over there are ignorant.
spies8Nita (12:19:58 AM): You ignorin both by sayin "we send someone over, confuse half the group, y go from there"
Spies8Awohali (12:20:16 AM): It has nothing to do with confusion.
spies8Nita (12:20:30 AM): Like I say Awohali, we ain't gonna agree on this one
Spies8Awohali (12:20:35 AM): Voting No Exile clears one hurdle away from Spies.
spies8Nita (12:20:48 AM): So I'm done discussin it. I ain't wastin my time when I could be talkin bout lots of other things
Spies8Awohali (12:20:49 AM): And a second additional hurdle is removed for any Spy on our team
spies8cory (12:20:58 AM): I think I lean in favor of nominating an actual candidate.
spies8mary (12:21:03 AM): If we send Chance, we get to watch how Lawrence, Isaac, Jasmine, Broderick and Lilith coach the Republicans.
spies8cory (12:21:04 AM): If they put up a Spy and we put up a Citizen
spies8cory (12:21:14 AM): The Spies over there might be tempted to jump ship for no good reason
Spies8Awohali (12:21:23 AM): And then they will be busted.
spies8mary (12:21:24 AM): And we get to watch the Republicans pass judgment based on that advice.
spies8Nita (12:21:31 AM): You forgettin whoever we send over, we obviously gonna have reasons for it
spies8Nita (12:21:41 AM): Ain't hard to copy that y say "I voted this person but I suspect their nominee more"
Spies8Awohali (12:21:57 AM): And it is not hard to see that someone is copying.
spies8cory (12:22:05 AM): I'd hold people to their reasons
spies8Nita (12:22:19 AM): How it always be copyin if we say our reasons y they agree?
spies8Nita (12:22:33 AM): They say "you got a good case" how we gonna argue with that?
Spies8Awohali (12:22:54 AM): We find out if they actually explored the good case with the former teammates of who is nominated
spies8cory (12:23:28 AM): If I bandwagoned someone next exile using my only reason as "I agree with XXX"
spies8cory (12:23:34 AM): It's probably get some scrutiny
spies8cory (12:24:05 AM): Anyway, I have a feeling whoever we send over there won't get exiled anyway. Lol.
Spies8Awohali (12:24:26 AM): Indeed, likely their nominee will be eliminated regardless.
spies8cinnamyn (12:25:07 AM): aight im bak i shooed dat mofo away
Spies8Awohali (12:25:32 AM): Moths can be very dangerous.
spies8cinnamyn (12:25:43 AM): iz dis a setup 4 a pun.?
Spies8Awohali (12:25:47 AM): They can even take on Godzilla.
Spies8Awohali (12:26:14 AM): Close, but no, it was a setup for a random reference to an irrelevant movie.
spies8cinnamyn (12:26:26 AM): but im on 2 u
spies8cinnamyn (12:26:53 AM): so i think we aint gonna have a majority 4 no exile so no sense in arguin' it n e more.?
spies8cory (12:27:14 AM): Maybe tomorrow
spies8cory (12:27:16 AM): When others come

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Spies8Awohali (12:15:52 AM): Indeed... She does not seem to be a big fan of not getting her way.
spies8mary (12:16:21 AM): I'm usually not one to say there are black and white right and wrongs.
spies8mary (12:16:28 AM): But this one seems pretty clear to me.
Spies8Awohali (12:18:20 AM): Indeed, I considered it briefly...
spies8mary is available (12:18:24 AM)
Spies8Awohali (12:18:25 AM): But I can not and will not do it.
spies8mary is available (12:19:15 AM)
spies8mary (12:22:42 AM): What is her core fear here?
spies8mary (12:22:48 AM): We need to address it effectively.
Spies8Awohali (12:23:37 AM): I am trying to understand it... Her argument is that people will be forced to choose between someone they have met, and someone they have not yet met. And that it is not fair to make them consider voting someone they have not yet met.
Spies8Awohali (12:24:04 AM): And at the same time, our nominee will not be able to defend themselves to the other team. These are valid points, but I do not think that they overrule the need for a vote.
spies8mary (12:24:26 AM): At least five people will know the candidate pretty well.
spies8mary (12:24:40 AM): Those five alone voting would be good information.
Spies8Awohali (12:24:44 AM): Exactly.
spies8mary (12:24:55 AM): Add in the others and you just get bonus information based on who they follow.
spies8mary (12:25:12 AM): One follows Jasmine's bad argument, one follows Broderick's good argument.
Spies8Awohali (12:25:13 AM): I can not understand how getting information from 0 people is better than getting information from our entire team and 5 or 7 from the other team.
spies8mary (12:25:59 AM): She's afraid.
spies8mary (12:26:11 AM): I'm trying to figure out why.
spies8mary (12:26:30 AM): Our nominee can defend themselves, just not in chat.
Spies8Awohali (12:26:34 AM): She had a similar episode earlier today about posting a public chat transcript
spies8mary (12:26:55 AM): Our nominee can post a defense and a case against the Republican nominee.
spies8mary (12:27:16 AM): Everyone on our side can post cases for the Republican voters.
Spies8Awohali (12:27:27 AM): Her argument against that is that lazy people might not read it... But lazy people do not always read things on their own team anyway,.
Spies8Awohali (12:47:46 AM): I must depart so that I may rest before work tomorrow. Farewell, Mary; watch out for patients with sharp objects that make eye contact!

[Awohali]

spies8mary (11:52:44 PM): Hi.
Spies8Awohali (11:52:55 PM): Osiyo, unali'i
spies8mary (11:53:09 PM): I am talking with Gertrude and Cinnamyn, but I would love to chat in a bit if you have time.
Spies8Awohali (11:53:44 PM): I am always up for a chat, especially when I am also dealing with Magalie... It is nice to have a breather from her.
spies8mary (11:54:11 PM): I will ask you later if you're getting a read from what she says. I haven't scrolled up over there yet.
Spies8Awohali (11:55:19 PM): It is almost not worth reading so far
Spies8Awohali (11:55:33 PM): I actualled laughed aloud at one point, though.
Spies8Awohali (12:01:52 AM): Apparently Magalie has only one suspect, Claude.
spies8mary (12:04:09 AM): Yes.
Spies8Awohali (12:11:41 AM): Were you able to gain any insights on anyone during or between the challenges over the past few days?
spies8mary (12:13:19 AM): I did a lot of reading on everyone.
spies8mary (12:13:22 AM): Almost everyone.
spies8mary (12:13:32 AM): And I've talked to a few of the people I suspect.
Spies8Awohali (12:15:03 AM): And who would these people be at the moment?
spies8mary (12:16:02 AM): From the bottom up, Magalie, Chance, Jenny, Gertrude, Cinnamyn.
spies8mary (12:16:14 AM): Rondak and Cory are in the grey zone.
spies8mary is available (12:16:34 AM)
Spies8Awohali (12:17:15 AM): I am interested to hear your thoughts on Cinnamyn. I have regarded her as leaning towards a Citizen status for most of the game.
spies8mary is available (12:18:48 AM)
spies8mary (12:21:04 AM): I invited her to group chat to help clear this up.
spies8mary (12:21:16 AM): I see a direct contradiction, for what it's worth here.
Spies8Awohali (12:21:50 AM): I do as well, I am interested to see how this turns out, with Cinnamyn here to add her knowledge of the situation.
spies8mary (12:23:13 AM): I just resisted the urge to make fun of Claude for blocking Chance from voting someone on the other team.
spies8mary (12:23:30 AM): spies8claude: So you told Cinnamyn(nice entrance timing) to watch out for someone that wasn't even on our team.
spies8mary (12:23:42 AM): Too distracting now. Maybe later.
Spies8Awohali (12:23:53 AM): The thought crossed my mind as well, I am glad that I was not alone in that!
spies8mary is available (12:25:02 AM)
spies8mary (12:26:16 AM): Testing his thought process here. I think his role is legit but we'll see.
spies8mary (12:26:33 AM): Those should be easy questions for him to answer.
Spies8Awohali (12:26:45 AM): Indeed, his role has more or less been confirmed by Chance, unless, of course, Chance is working with him, which would be far-fetched but possible.
spies8mary (12:27:10 AM): But if he's thinking of using it for good, his thought processes should reflect that.
spies8mary (12:27:33 AM): Think about how you would use it at that moment as a Citizen.
spies8mary (12:27:53 AM): Would you use the power he used or the other one that forces votes on one of three.
spies8mary (12:27:57 AM): That kind of thing.
Spies8Awohali (12:28:17 AM): I thought that he had to use each power in succession? That they rotate week to week. Is he able to choose?
spies8mary is available (12:28:48 AM)
spies8mary (12:29:07 AM): I think so.
spies8mary (12:29:11 AM): Also
spies8mary (12:29:25 AM): This would be the first evidence of Magalie asking someone a question I think.
spies8mary (12:29:43 AM): Has she ever asked you anything?
Spies8Awohali (12:29:47 AM): Yes, I almost fainted upon reading the chat.
Spies8Awohali (12:30:10 AM): She has not yet... I will review our conversation above to make sure, but it was mostly her answereding when prodded, or not answering at all.
spies8mary (12:30:26 AM): The planets must have aligned.
spies8mary (12:30:34 AM): To pique her curiosity.
Spies8Awohali (12:30:35 AM): Ah, I stand corrected : " spies8magalie (12:13:58 AM): do you have anyother questions?"
Spies8Awohali (12:30:55 AM): A question about questions. I fear the apocalypse.
spies8mary is available (12:42:29 AM)
Spies8Awohali (1:07:01 AM): Cory is discussing with me some interesting points that you brought up on Jenny.

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spies8cinnamyn (11:42:24 PM): aye awohali
Spies8Awohali (11:42:33 PM): Hello there, Cinamini
spies8cinnamyn (11:42:46 PM): whatchu up 2 shuga
Spies8Awohali (11:43:24 PM): Engaging a conversation with a psychopathic brick wall, also known as Magalie...
spies8cinnamyn (11:43:55 PM): o, riveting shit.!
spies8cinnamyn (11:44:08 PM): i kinda gave up on dat, 2 b honest
Spies8Awohali (11:44:57 PM): I am probably going to as well, she answers every question by saying that she does not have to explain...
spies8cinnamyn (11:46:58 PM): i dont think she all there
Spies8Awohali (11:47:21 PM): Either that, or she is using it as a strategy in hoipes that people will dismiss her rather than vote for her.
spies8cinnamyn (11:47:41 PM): rite
spies8cinnamyn (11:47:53 PM): n' da shit she haz dun iz spyish in itself
Spies8Awohali (11:48:24 PM): Indeed, her actions with the flag challenge really, truly disappointed me heavily.
spies8cinnamyn (11:49:20 PM): but it wuznt really out of character
spies8cinnamyn (11:49:21 PM): at all
Spies8Awohali (11:49:32 PM): No, honestly, we should have expected it.
spies8cinnamyn (11:49:43 PM): i wuz honestly wishin she jus' wudnt sho up
spies8cinnamyn (11:50:44 PM): which iz awful 4 me 2 say, but dam
Spies8Awohali (11:50:58 PM): Well, if she had not, we would ahve actually been better off.
Spies8Awohali (11:51:10 PM): I think it speaks volumes about what everyone thinks of her, though.
spies8cinnamyn (11:51:30 PM): if she iz a spy, do u think she wud get more support
spies8cinnamyn (11:51:33 PM): or iz she a easy bus
Spies8Awohali (11:52:35 PM): I think she would be a very easy bus, but I also think that the Spies would know better than to all pile on it
spies8cinnamyn (11:52:55 PM): i think dis round it seemz lyke
spies8cinnamyn (11:52:58 PM): errybody haz jus shit on her
Spies8Awohali (11:54:00 PM): Yes... I wonder if it is a bus or a wagon.
spies8cinnamyn (11:55:47 PM): i guess i kind of fall into dat category, tho
spies8cinnamyn (11:55:57 PM): cuz i wuz givin her da benefit of da doubt 4 da past 2 roundz
spies8cinnamyn (11:56:10 PM): but after she sed da weird stephanie shit 2 me it turned me on 2 her
Spies8Awohali (11:56:22 PM): Well, that is not necessarily bad, to give someone a chance to turn things around.
spies8cinnamyn (11:58:16 PM): yea but she haznt
spies8cinnamyn (11:58:21 PM): n' i dont think she will
Spies8Awohali (11:58:43 PM): I do not believe she will, either. She has more or less demonstrated that she will not.
spies8cinnamyn (12:02:03 AM): so ill probly end up votin 4 jenny
spies8cinnamyn (12:02:09 AM): i wont b here much tomz except 4 around exile tyme
spies8cinnamyn (12:02:15 AM): but i fine wit a magalie vote 2
Spies8Awohali (12:02:29 AM): I am heavily considering Jenny as well. I would be fine seeing either of them going.
spies8cinnamyn (12:03:16 AM): can u think of 1 thing jenny haz dun datz cittish
spies8cinnamyn (12:03:19 AM): ive been tryin
spies8cinnamyn (12:03:21 AM): n' failin
Spies8Awohali (12:04:30 AM): I believe that she has had input at times, last night, for isntance, she was a part of the discussion of No Exile vs. nominating someone
Spies8Awohali (12:04:39 AM): But I cans ee how a Spy would be motivated to do that just as well.
spies8cinnamyn (12:07:19 AM): do u find n e body suspishis besidez dose 2.?
Spies8Awohali (12:08:02 AM): I still suspect Claude a good bit... Cory is also creeping up my watch list as he continues his back seat time
Spies8Awohali (12:08:16 AM): And Gertrude is also hovering at the edge.
spies8cinnamyn (12:08:37 AM): i think cory iz suspishis wenever i aint talkin 2 him
spies8cinnamyn (12:08:45 AM): but wen we do i c dat it kinda goez away cuz we think a lot alike
Spies8Awohali (12:09:33 AM): Yes... That is the enigma surrounding him... He has simply stopped talknig as frequently as he was early in the game, and that has made me more wary of him.
spies8cinnamyn (12:11:49 AM): but aint mary da same way.?
spies8cinnamyn (12:11:51 AM): she neva posts
Spies8Awohali (12:12:11 AM): To a degree; she makes much more contributions on AIM to make up for it, though.
spies8cinnamyn (12:12:48 AM): yea shez dam efficient wit her tyme
spies8cinnamyn (12:13:10 AM): y do u suspect claude.?
Spies8Awohali (12:13:16 AM): She is, so even though she has less than optimal time available, she has accomplished more with it than many have with more time...
spies8cinnamyn (12:13:17 AM): i cud probly read ur post
spies8cinnamyn (12:13:18 AM): lmbo
Spies8Awohali (12:13:28 AM): Ha! That is OK, I do not mind restating it.
Spies8Awohali (12:14:14 AM): Claude's biggest issue is his role claim. I see no logical reason for a Citizen to claim that early in an episode. Perhaps it is possible, but it seems highly unlikely, especially considering how Claude hammered home how he feels about emotions coming into game play.
Spies8Awohali (12:14:43 AM): It seems to me like he used it to give him the power to get rid of Chance and last longer in the game, using the fear of outing a Citizen role early to his advantage.
spies8cinnamyn (12:15:31 AM): how do u feel bout allanz role claim 2 jenny n' nita
spies8cinnamyn (12:15:46 AM): granted, not public, but still
Spies8Awohali (12:16:11 AM): From what I have seen from Allan, he may not know much about this game, and yes, like you said, it was a bit less risky by only being to two people rather than to the entire game. I still find it as a bit... off.
Spies8Awohali (12:16:17 AM): But not as bad as Claude's
spies8cinnamyn (12:18:05 AM): i think claudez wuz obviouslee 2 save hiz ass, no matta wut he sez
spies8cinnamyn (12:18:09 AM): but citz do dat 2
spies8cinnamyn (12:18:18 AM): cit role holderz dont wanna b exiled
Spies8Awohali (12:19:12 AM): I agree entirely that he did it to save himself, and I agree that it is possible for a Cit to claim to save themselves as well, but from my experience, Citizens usually exhaust their other resources before using their final card in claiming a role.
Spies8Awohali (12:19:35 AM): Claude seemed to jump at the opportunity to claim, rather than look for a way to not have to claim.
spies8cinnamyn is available (12:21:08 AM)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1F_5-8xcF8
spies8cinnamyn (12:21:29 AM): so u think hiz real motivez wuz wut.?
Spies8Awohali (12:22:50 AM): Power. Most of us in Episode 2 were of the opinion that we could not get rid of Claude right after he claimed a role, myself included. Meanwhile Claude insisted that it needed to either be him or Chance getting voted out as soon as possible. I am sure that he was not counting on Chance being made immune.
Spies8Awohali (12:23:06 AM): But he has not wasted time asserting this episode that it must be him or Chance.
spies8cinnamyn (12:23:20 AM): i thot he claimed after chance wuz immune
spies8cinnamyn (12:23:22 AM): did he not.?
spies8cinnamyn is available (12:24:09 AM)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1F_5-8xcF8
Spies8Awohali (12:24:33 AM): It was right after. I can not remember if he saw it before he claimed or not. But he still used it as a platform to get people after Chance.
spies8cinnamyn (12:25:14 AM): do u think chance iz a cit
Spies8Awohali (12:25:56 AM): I think it is more likely that he is a Cit than Claude... But I am still wary of his actions early in the game. It does not help matters that I know who Chance is outside of the game.
spies8cinnamyn (12:27:29 AM): uh oh
spies8cinnamyn (12:27:48 AM): glad i aint wrapped in n e of dat shit
spies8cinnamyn (12:27:50 AM): at least dat i no of
Spies8Awohali (12:28:46 AM): As am I... It is a firestorm that will eventually lead to one or both of their deaths, for sure, and I am sure that one of them must be a Spy.
spies8cinnamyn is available (12:34:44 AM)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1F_5-8xcF8
spies8cinnamyn (12:37:11 AM): u think 1 of dem iz.?
Spies8Awohali (12:37:56 AM): Indeed, and I still have not ruled out the chance that both of them could be
Spies8Awohali (12:38:07 AM): But I still see that as a very risky move.
spies8cinnamyn (12:38:22 AM): i cud c both of dem bein spiez if dey wuz both in truble wen it happened
spies8cinnamyn (12:38:31 AM): but dey popped off wen neitha 1 wuz really suspishis, i dont think
Spies8Awohali (12:39:37 AM): Indeed, there was really no reason for two Spies to start such extreme distancing so early.

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spies8cory (12:50:20 AM): Hello awaffle
Spies8Awohali (12:50:36 AM): Greetings, Cory, please do not stick me in the toaster and eat me!
spies8cory (12:50:49 AM): You read my mind.
Spies8Awohali (12:51:09 AM): I will have to ensure that syrup is not available around here for now on. How are you?
spies8cory (12:51:26 AM): As good as a Philosoraptor can be.
spies8cory (12:51:31 AM): How are you?
Spies8Awohali (12:52:05 AM): That is good to hear. As long as there are not any round door knobs, you should be good. I am recovering from a chat with Magalie... If that gives you good idea.
spies8cory (12:54:59 AM): Lol.
spies8cory (12:55:04 AM): That could take years of rehab
spies8cory (12:55:11 AM): Anyway, we seldom talk.
spies8cory (12:55:17 AM): I've been trying to hit everyone up at least once today.
spies8cory (12:55:25 AM): I've been on the slackish side lately.
Spies8Awohali (12:56:07 AM): That is indeed a problem... I am sad that we have not beena ble to talk a bit more recently... It is OK to go through mperiods of lesser activity, as long as you come back stronger than ever! I am happy to see you back in the wsing f things,.
spies8cory is available (12:56:47 AM)
spies8cory (12:57:26 AM): Yeah. Need to figure out who we're exiling. Lol.
spies8cory (12:57:35 AM): I've narrowed down my choices to four people
spies8cory (12:57:42 AM): The strongest of which is Jenny
spies8cory (12:57:54 AM): The other three being Rondak, Chance, and Magalie
spies8cory (12:58:13 AM): I considered Gertrude, but I think I'd rather not see her go this time around
Spies8Awohali (12:58:15 AM): As long as it is not "No Exile" I am happy. And it seems that we are of very similar mindsets.
spies8cory (12:58:22 AM): Yeah
spies8cory (12:58:24 AM): I considered no exile
Spies8Awohali (12:58:26 AM): For my top choices are Magalie, Jenny, and Claude.
spies8cory (12:58:28 AM): But I think your argument is stronger
spies8cory (12:59:08 AM): Anyway, Jenny
spies8cory (12:59:14 AM): Lots of stuff on Jenny
Spies8Awohali (12:59:15 AM): Well, I am flattered. I do see the potential merit of a No Exile, I really do. I just see more being lost than gained by doing so.
Spies8Awohali (12:59:24 AM): Lots of stuff indeed.
spies8cory (12:59:30 AM): I didn't _really_ suspect her till last night
spies8cory (12:59:38 AM): Mary brought up several points against her that I thought were strong
spies8cory (1:00:04 AM): The main one being that she apparently vanished several times in the group chat when the subject of Alexei came up. I need to go get exact quotes(she gave them)
spies8cory (1:00:11 AM): Obviously, she voted Zed
spies8cory (1:00:30 AM): I asked her if she was suspicious of Alexei at all and she kind of beat around the bush
spies8cory (1:00:46 AM): There's the role claim nonsense
spies8cory (1:00:58 AM): And... what was it
spies8cory (1:01:02 AM): Shit I just had it but now it's gone
Spies8Awohali (1:01:04 AM): I was not at all aware of that first part
spies8cory (1:01:22 AM): Yeah let me go grab my Mary transcript
spies8cory (1:01:25 AM): She gave me some quotes
spies8cory (1:02:38 AM): spies8mary: Next day, Tina brings up Alexei and a contradicted quote from a Jenny-Alexei conversation.
Jenny freezes and doesn't discuss the contradiction or Alexei until the topic changes to Allan.
spies8cory (1:02:52 AM): spies8mary: spies8alexei: ok, now let me ask you, and please answer honestly, how many of you think I am spy for sure?
spies8alexei: steph? rondak? jenny? themba? what do you think honestly?
Jenny disappears for a half hour without answering.
spies8cory (1:03:09 AM): spies8mary: Themba asks who she's voting for.
spies8jenny: Just saw your question, sorry. Yeah I'll probably stick with Zeddy for now (sorry Zeddy )
Never comments on Alexei or tries to persuade people to join her, based on evidence from their 1 1/2 hours of talking.
spies8cory (1:03:32 AM): spies8mary: "I really don't know what to think of this guy right now. He seems to me to be coming off like someone in a previous game named Callahan, who just gave up when people put pressure on him the first day, and turned out to be a cit."
spies8mary: Tina points out another contradiction in Alexei's Zed suspicions, Jenny ignored it.
spies8cory (1:04:29 AM): She used the Callahan comparison on me twice earlier
Spies8Awohali (1:05:01 AM): Jenny seems to use past games for more or less everythnig she says.
Spies8Awohali (1:05:32 AM): Her character is even based on a character from the previous game, if I am understanding correctly.
Spies8Awohali (1:05:57 AM): I would very much like to know where these conversation logs are, in which Jenbny ignores Alexei suspicions.
spies8cory (1:06:11 AM): I think these are from the episode one chat logs
Spies8Awohali (1:06:16 AM): I have not the patience to read through the entire chat log threads, but I may have to.
Spies8Awohali (1:06:18 AM): I feared as much.
spies8cory (1:06:20 AM): I glanced at them earlier but didn't have time to look through them thoroughly
Spies8Awohali (1:06:42 AM): I trust that Mary would not make it up, but I will still have to confirm it myself.
spies8cory (1:06:50 AM): Yeah, I agree
spies8cory (1:06:54 AM): She may have missed something as well
spies8cory (1:07:08 AM): Anyway, it's something to look out for.
spies8cory (1:07:20 AM): The last point I can think of, the one I forgot earlier
spies8cory (1:07:40 AM): Is that according to multiple people(Nita, Mary, Cinnamyn), Jenny's strategy is to find Citizens rather than Spies.
Spies8Awohali (1:07:57 AM): It is indeed... I actually still lean slightly in favor of voting Jenny this episode, despite Magalie's.... performance.... tonight.
spies8cory (1:08:00 AM): Which sounds like a good way to avoid having to throw dirt at people.
Spies8Awohali (1:08:03 AM): Yes I believe she confirmed that strategy last night.
Spies8Awohali (1:08:12 AM): I made note of it being weird.
Spies8Awohali (1:08:30 AM): In my confessional of course. Oops, Claude is not here to confirm me as a Cit.
spies8cory (1:08:36 AM): Lol!
Spies8Awohali (1:08:45 AM): Sorry, that was unnecessary.
spies8cory (1:08:54 AM): No. It was necessary.
Spies8Awohali (1:09:08 AM): In that case, I rescind mny apology!
spies8cory is available (1:11:16 AM)
Spies8Awohali (1:15:13 AM): For what reasons do you suspect Rondak? I have not had the chance to get to know him well yet.
spies8cory (1:15:30 AM): He's definitely on the lower end of the spectrum
spies8cory (1:15:36 AM): But it's his lack of spy hunting mainly
Spies8Awohali (1:15:52 AM): I can certainly see that, since I have not seen him do much of anything.
spies8cory (1:15:52 AM): However, he seems disinterested in the game in general
spies8cory (1:16:07 AM): Claims he's new to mafia
Spies8Awohali (1:16:24 AM): Most people who claim that claim so only to cover themselves up, but it is always possible.
spies8cory (1:16:27 AM): I told him he needs to post his thoughts, even if they're vague
spies8cory (1:16:47 AM): Earlier he said he'd talked to barely anyone this episode
Spies8Awohali (1:16:57 AM): Good advice, for certain. What makes him worse than, say, Allan?
spies8cory (1:17:03 AM): So, I don't know. It leaves me with very little to work with. Lol
spies8cory (1:17:23 AM): A good question. I think I've kind of stayed away from Allan due to the whole role claim fiasco
spies8cory (1:17:43 AM): But in retrospect I probably should have him on the list right by Rondak
spies8cory (1:17:55 AM): I don't know much about him. Haven't talked to him much. Haven't seen him do much.
spies8cory (1:18:09 AM): Looks like he was on earlier, but I missed him
Spies8Awohali (1:18:16 AM): Indeed, I have seen them as being relatively the same person, minus a roleclaim.
Spies8Awohali (1:18:34 AM): But his role was claimed by one of my top suspects and I know nothing about it...
spies8cory (1:18:48 AM): About the role?
spies8cory (1:19:00 AM): Jenny told me about the role
spies8cory (1:19:08 AM): What it does, that is
Spies8Awohali (1:19:24 AM): She did? That is interesting. I did not inquire details, in case it had not been released
spies8cory (1:19:37 AM): I doubt it's a secret.
spies8cory (1:19:42 AM): It's some kind of deflection role
spies8cory (1:20:01 AM): An ability is used on him and it he can use it on someone of his choosing
Spies8Awohali (1:20:12 AM): .Ah, it is a side-neutral role, then
spies8cory (1:20:20 AM): Though she made it sound like it was copied, not deflected
spies8cory (1:20:36 AM): And yeah
spies8cory (1:20:42 AM): That role could easily be Spy or Citizen.
Spies8Awohali (1:20:46 AM): I am guessing that Allan might be able to give a better description of it than Jenny
spies8cory (1:20:52 AM): Probably so.
Spies8Awohali (1:21:13 AM): Thought he would have to speak for that to be possible.
Spies8Awohali (1:21:16 AM): Though*
spies8cory (1:21:43 AM): That's wishful thinking.
Spies8Awohali (1:22:02 AM): It looks that way... I am sad at how many players we have that do not participate.

[Awohali]

spies8claude (11:29:37 PM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (11:29:37 PM) has entered the room.
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spies8magalie (11:29:37 PM) has entered the room.
spies8gertrude (11:29:37 PM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (11:30:49 PM): Osiyo, everyone.
spies8gertrude (11:35:01 PM): Hey there, Awohali!
Spies8Awohali (11:35:24 PM): It appears to be a slow night, tonight.
spies8gertrude (11:36:08 PM): Mm.
spies8claude (11:36:27 PM): Evening, Awohali.
Spies8Awohali (11:36:40 PM): Has there been much interesting discussion so far?
spies8claude (11:37:05 PM): Ah, not really.
spies8claude (11:37:12 PM): Magalie talked for awhile
spies8claude (11:37:19 PM): I felt like she was being coached through it, heh.
Spies8Awohali (11:37:34 PM): That would not be much of a shock.
spies8magalie (11:38:02 PM): Im still here Im just writing something on the boards thank you very much
spies8magalie (11:38:36 PM): and no I was not coached that came from with in
Spies8Awohali (11:39:34 PM): Would you mind summarizing what you had to say?
spies8magalie (11:39:44 PM): Awohali everytime you say something referring to me I feel like nothing but a negative vibe from you
spies8claude (11:39:50 PM): Jenny posted the chats from then.
Spies8Awohali (11:40:18 PM): I would gladly change to a positive outlook, I just need a reason to do so.
spies8magalie (11:41:03 PM): well I dont want you to Im just saying that is such a bitch move.
Spies8Awohali (11:41:19 PM): How so?
spies8magalie (11:41:42 PM): like since you think im a spy your going to act like a bitch to me for the rest of my time here in this game
spies8magalie (11:42:00 PM): you go ahead and do that
Spies8Awohali (11:42:23 PM): You did not answer my question.
spies8magalie (11:42:47 PM): I dont have to explain nothing to you because you already assume you got everything pegged out
Spies8Awohali (11:42:53 PM): How is what I am doing a "bitch move"?
Spies8Awohali (11:42:58 PM): I would not be asking if I assumed that.
spies8magalie (11:43:31 PM): okay since I have no meaning to you I do not have to talk to you
Spies8Awohali (11:43:54 PM): You seriously astound me. Let me lay my actions out for you:
Spies8Awohali (11:44:19 PM): You do something negative, I react negatively. You do something else negative, I react negatively again. If you do something positive, I will react positively.
Spies8Awohali (11:44:38 PM): But when you answer every question I ask you with "I do not have to explain" I am not going to have any positive reaction.
spies8magalie (11:45:01 PM): No awohali
Spies8Awohali (11:45:18 PM): Then you have no reason to bitch and moan when I cast my vote for you.
Spies8Awohali (11:45:29 PM): If you do not wish to explain to me why I should not vote for you, then I will vote for you.
spies8magalie (11:45:40 PM): Im not trying to answer any questions of yours because its never good enough for you
Spies8Awohali (11:46:00 PM): Never? You have not answered any of my questions recently.
spies8magalie (11:46:13 PM): Yes I have
Spies8Awohali (11:46:18 PM): I believe I conceded several points on the forums in regards to your answers there.
spies8magalie (11:47:11 PM): I believe that I have yet to get a response to what I wrote but your a spy and I am voting for you
Spies8Awohali (11:47:43 PM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dems&action=display&thread=423
Spies8Awohali (11:47:48 PM): I have responded to all of your posts.
Spies8Awohali (11:47:59 PM): With far more than what you are claiming.
spies8magalie (11:49:39 PM): Well what do you want me to say everytime I say somthing "smart" it is considered to be unmagalie like
Spies8Awohali (11:50:17 PM): I have yet to hear you say anything of the sort, so I can not say that I would agree there. I m open to hear any positive things that you have done.
Spies8Awohali (11:50:42 PM): As I said in my post earlier today, I have been considering several people for the nomination vote.
spies8magalie (11:51:10 PM): what is a positive thing anyone on our team has done
spies8magalie (11:51:21 PM): we have yet to catch a spy
spies8magalie (11:51:32 PM): and I feel like you all blame me
Spies8Awohali (11:51:40 PM): Right now I am asking about you specifically. I have asked other people before, and will cover more in the future.
spies8magalie (11:52:28 PM): I dont know because I dont look at the things I do as good or bad
spies8magalie (11:52:42 PM): I dont think anyone does
spies8magalie (11:52:53 PM): unless your awohali of course
Spies8Awohali (11:53:11 PM): I am fairly sure that everyone pays attention to who is helpful and who is not...
Spies8Awohali (11:53:20 PM): Anyone may speak up to correct me if I am wrong.
spies8magalie (11:53:29 PM): I dont want them to
spies8magalie (11:53:45 PM): Im not asking you to be nice to me
spies8magalie (11:54:14 PM): Im just saying I have deserved nothing to take your smart antics
Spies8Awohali (11:54:18 PM): I do not wish to be un-nice to you.
spies8magalie (11:54:23 PM): so why do you still give them to me
spies8magalie (11:54:57 PM): thats just the way I feel every time I enter this chat room and your in it
Spies8Awohali (11:55:05 PM): I have taken issue with some of your voting reasons...You have confirmed those reasons. I have taken issue with your lack of spyhunting, you have not explained how you spy hunt to me yet.
spies8magalie (11:55:09 PM): nothing nice to say
spies8magalie (11:55:16 PM): so why say it at all
Spies8Awohali (11:55:50 PM): Do something worth praising, and I will praise it.
Spies8Awohali (11:56:57 PM): For instance... who are your current top three suspects?
spies8magalie (11:57:18 PM): I am not asking you to praise me I just want you to stop your negativity because weather you like it or not its not helping one bit
spies8claude (11:57:31 PM): It's part of the game, Magalie.
spies8claude (11:57:49 PM): He's not calling you names or anything. He is criticizing your play.
spies8magalie (11:58:04 PM): I didnt ask you claude
spies8magalie (11:58:16 PM): I was still talking to awholi
Spies8Awohali (11:58:21 PM): Claude is correct though. Again, who are your top three suspects?
spies8magalie (11:58:34 PM): Like I said before
spies8magalie (11:58:40 PM): claude
spies8claude (11:58:40 PM): I'm just saying. Don't take it as a personal attack.
spies8magalie (11:59:05 PM): if you want to look up in the chats you can I dont feel like explaining while he is here
Spies8Awohali (11:59:45 PM): I would much rather prefer hearing it from you in real time so that I may ask questions if I need to.
spies8magalie (11:59:53 PM): as to why I FOS him its in the chat
spies8magalie (12:00:02 AM): okay
Spies8Awohali (12:00:11 AM): Claude is not three people though.
spies8magalie (12:00:15 AM): well I will tell you
spies8magalie (12:00:21 AM): I told
Spies8Awohali (12:00:30 AM): Or... If he is, then he has more pressing issues than being suspicious.
spies8magalie (12:00:33 AM): cory today
spies8magalie (12:00:50 AM): that he was all that I was paying attention to
Spies8Awohali (12:01:16 AM): Then he is your only suspect?
spies8magalie (12:01:21 AM): yes he is
spies8magalie (12:01:24 AM): at the time
Spies8Awohali (12:01:30 AM): What happens when he is gone?
spies8magalie (12:01:50 AM): when Claude is gone
spies8magalie (12:02:21 AM): I would most likely go find a new person to FOS
Spies8Awohali (12:02:47 AM): That would most likely be a good idea, at that point...
Spies8Awohali (12:02:55 AM): What if he is not gone any time soon?
spies8magalie (12:03:06 AM): yes I see your point its not good for me in the long run
spies8magalie (12:03:55 AM): but I really do doubt that He would leave anytime soon but if by some strange twist of faith he did leave tomorrow
spies8magalie (12:04:27 AM): I would be shit out of luck I would much rather my team catch one spy then none at all
Spies8Awohali (12:05:05 AM): And if he does not go... Say, over the next three episodes, you will spend all three focused only on him?
spies8magalie (12:05:50 AM): no I have been still been reading up on people but the only one that pops as spy is Claude
Spies8Awohali (12:06:13 AM): As long as you are still keeping up with other people as well, that is good.
spies8magalie (12:06:50 AM): My whole stragety is to try to think like a spy to catch a spy
spies8magalie (12:07:06 AM): But because of that
spies8magalie (12:07:13 AM): I am being called a spy
Spies8Awohali (12:07:21 AM): That is an interesting approach... You have applied this to how you see Claude?
spies8magalie (12:07:41 AM): yes If I were Claude
spies8magalie (12:08:16 AM): I would want to vote for Camilla and I would also want to FOS Chance.
spies8magalie (12:08:37 AM): that is some of the things he has done so far
Spies8Awohali (12:08:58 AM): Do you consider his role claim to be something you would have done as a Spy?
spies8claude (12:09:05 AM): I'm skeptical that someone as new as you claim to be would use that strategy.
spies8magalie (12:09:43 AM): It has been my strategy since the day I came into this game no one really asked me
spies8magalie (12:10:15 AM): Well Claudes whole role thing
spies8magalie (12:11:15 AM): I know that spies can have roles too. It seems to me that Claude uses that as a crutch to get farther in the game
spies8magalie (12:11:54 AM): Like I told everyone in this chat today
spies8magalie (12:12:30 AM): I have been reading up in the spyheadquarters to see what kinda moves they would use
Spies8Awohali (12:12:51 AM): I am assuming you mean from past games.
spies8magalie (12:12:57 AM): yes
spies8magalie (12:13:58 AM): do you have anyother questions?
Spies8Awohali (12:15:21 AM): I am always full of questions, I do not wish you to feel under fire, though.
spies8magalie (12:16:00 AM): that is why I wanted it to come out in the open and done with
spies8magalie (12:16:12 AM): without me "biting" your heads off
spies8mary (12:16:34 AM): Hi.
spies8magalie (12:16:41 AM): hi mary
Spies8Awohali (12:16:42 AM): I appreciate your forthrightness tonight.
spies8claude (12:17:06 AM): I find it much more likely that you read previous spy hqs because you are a spy and wanted to see how to act than because you're a citizen but wanted to 'see how a spy thinks'.
spies8magalie (12:17:31 AM): and that is why I could not come out in the open with this
spies8mary (12:17:42 AM): Magalie, I apologize if you've been asked this already, but who else do you suspect besides Claude?
spies8magalie (12:18:10 AM): I have yet to be sure about anyone
spies8magalie (12:18:35 AM): I dont want to be the reason to send a cit home but I am sure about claude
spies8mary (12:18:48 AM): When you told Cinnamyn you suspected Stephanie and Nita, why did you mention them?
spies8magalie (12:19:00 AM): no I did not say that to cinn
spies8magalie (12:19:09 AM): I told cinn to watch out for her
spies8claude (12:19:30 AM): How is that different?
spies8magalie (12:19:37 AM): I never really suspected nita
Spies8Awohali (12:20:12 AM): What prompted you to say to watch out for Stephanie?
spies8magalie (12:20:23 AM): what nita told me
spies8magalie (12:20:46 AM): I assume that steph was on our team
spies8cinnamyn (12:20:54 AM) has entered the room.
spies8magalie (12:21:08 AM): but this was around the time of the team swap
spies8cinnamyn (12:21:08 AM): aye yall
spies8magalie (12:21:14 AM): so forgive me for that
spies8claude (12:21:14 AM): So you told Cinnamyn(nice entrance timing) to watch out for someone that wasn't even on our team.
Spies8Awohali (12:21:14 AM): Osiyo, Cinnamyn.
spies8magalie (12:21:41 AM): like I said I thought she was on the same team as us
spies8magalie (12:21:58 AM): why else would nita say that to me
spies8claude (12:22:16 AM): What did Nita say?
spies8magalie (12:22:36 AM): its in my confessional
spies8magalie (12:23:47 AM): I want to copy and paste it but is there a rule for having it
spies8claude (12:23:51 AM): Okay..so go look it up?
spies8magalie (12:23:51 AM): pasted?
spies8magalie (12:24:01 AM): I have it
spies8claude (12:24:02 AM): you can copy/paste some, just not like an hour worth of conversation.
spies8cinnamyn (12:24:09 AM): 15 linez
spies8cinnamyn (12:24:11 AM): i think
spies8mary (12:24:15 AM): Claude, while she's looking.
spies8mary (12:24:29 AM): Why did you block Chance from voting Jasmine?
spies8claude (12:24:47 AM): Because I forgot that she changed teams, blah.
spies8claude (12:24:59 AM): And I think she is a citizen and didn't want him to be able to vote her.
spies8mary (12:25:02 AM): Do you suspect Jasmine is a Citizen?
spies8mary (12:25:03 AM): Ok.
spies8mary (12:25:26 AM): Did you waver between more picks or were those the two obvious ones?
spies8mary (12:25:42 AM): Did you consider using your other power?
spies8magalie (12:26:03 AM): okay I got it
spies8magalie (12:26:09 AM): 15 right
spies8magalie (12:27:07 AM): [20:02] spies8magalie: please tell me
[20:02] spies8Nita: She no listen to the suspicions on Alexei when I present them. Her biggest suspects, she have terrible reasons for them
[20:03] spies8Nita: She suspectin Owen porque he doubtin the vote count of exile 1
[20:03] spies8Nita: She suspectin Rondak because he ask twice "What es bussin?"
[20:03] spies8Nita: She suspectin Dane porque he
spies8magalie (12:27:55 AM):
[20:04] spies8Nita: Maybe.
[20:05] spies8Nita: We see what the republicans do.
[20:05] spies8magalie: I dont think it matters if we see the other side
[20:06] spies8magalie: thats why its open righr
[20:06] spies8Nita: Si, that why I think she suspicious for tryin to exile Dane on that
[20:06] spies8Nita: So who do you think es a spy?
[20:07] spies8magalie: steph is not on our team so lets see who is on our side
spies8magalie (12:28:26 AM): im missing a chunk because it wont fit
spies8mary (12:28:48 AM): What did you ask Nita to get her talking?
spies8magalie (12:29:10 AM): she started talking to me
spies8magalie (12:29:27 AM): I simply asked her who she FOS
spies8magalie (12:30:24 AM): see at the end of the chat
spies8Nita (12:30:43 AM) has entered the room.
spies8magalie (12:30:44 AM): thats was when cinn tells me that steph was not on our team
spies8Nita (12:30:59 AM): Hola
spies8magalie (12:31:04 AM): hola
Spies8Awohali (12:31:05 AM): Welcome, Nita.
spies8mary (12:31:08 AM): Hi.
spies8cinnamyn (12:31:15 AM): i jus' dont get y wen i asked magalie who she suspected, her furst answer wuz
spies8cinnamyn (12:31:17 AM): da 1 nita jus' gave
spies8cinnamyn (12:31:21 AM): whether she wuz on our team or not
spies8cinnamyn (12:31:31 AM): dat dont really matter
spies8magalie (12:31:37 AM): I didnt say that cinn
Spies8Awohali (12:31:47 AM): Especially if her focus is on Claude
spies8cinnamyn (12:32:36 AM): spies8cinnamyn: (11:03:56 PM)so magalie who do u suspect.?
spies8magalie: (11:04:22 PM)I suspect you steph
spies8cinnamyn: (11:04:38 PM)grl whatchu talkin' bout.?
spies8magalie: (11:05:04 PM)I suspect steph as a spy
spies8Nita (12:32:36 AM): What we talkin bout?
spies8cinnamyn (12:32:39 AM): ?
spies8mary (12:32:55 AM): Magalie's suspicions.
Spies8Awohali (12:33:07 AM): We are discussing Magalie's suspicions at the moment, and the mystery surrounding them
spies8mary (12:33:13 AM): The three we've seen stated are Claude, Stephanie, Nita.
spies8magalie (12:33:13 AM): I dont remember saying that
spies8cinnamyn (12:33:18 AM): well
spies8cinnamyn (12:33:19 AM): u did
spies8cinnamyn (12:33:20 AM): lmbo
spies8cinnamyn (12:33:41 AM): 6 minz later:
spies8cinnamyn (12:33:43 AM): pies8cinnamyn: (11:10:14 PM)well u didnt answer my queschin boo
spies8cinnamyn: (11:10:19 PM)who do u think b a spy.?
spies8magalie: (11:10:41 PM)Nita
spies8cinnamyn: (11:11:05 PM)y.?
spies8magalie: (11:12:16 PM)well I have not only been on a team with her for a day and she came up to me and attacked me with stuff about her team
Spies8Awohali (12:33:52 AM): Although she has amended tonight that Claude is the only one she suspects currently.
spies8magalie (12:34:07 AM): I said that after I asked her who she fos
spies8claude (12:34:20 AM): I mean..really? You thought Nita was a Spy?
spies8magalie (12:34:26 AM): and you told me that steph was not on our team
spies8cinnamyn (12:34:39 AM): da part u jus' posted in here
spies8magalie (12:34:43 AM): I didnt really mean it
spies8cinnamyn (12:34:44 AM): didnt luk lyke "attacking"
spies8cinnamyn (12:34:47 AM): o, u didnt mean it
spies8cinnamyn (12:34:48 AM): ok
spies8claude (12:35:20 AM): lol
spies8claude (12:35:29 AM): So you said you thought Nita was a Spy
spies8claude (12:35:32 AM): But you didn't mean it.
spies8magalie (12:35:35 AM): I meant she came at me with the whole steph issue
spies8Nita (12:35:48 AM): Porque you ask "who you think es a spy?"
spies8Nita (12:35:53 AM): So ... I answer
spies8magalie (12:35:54 AM): after I asked her who she Fos
Spies8Awohali (12:36:00 AM): She also aid that Gertrude was probably a helpful Citizen but did not mean that, either
spies8magalie (12:36:19 AM): I used the wrong words
spies8magalie (12:36:28 AM): I didn
spies8claude (12:37:46 AM): You didn't what.
spies8magalie (12:37:51 AM): sorry please excuse the last post but what I meant that gertie was an honest cit because I felt that I have just voted for like someone who was a known cit and didnt know what to say at time
spies8magalie (12:38:50 AM): I didnt realize she was under fire at the time due to a arrangement I had going on
Spies8Awohali (12:38:58 AM): But then you came back and said that you actually still suspected Gertrude and that you only said what you said to get people off of your back.
spies8magalie (12:39:15 AM): yes I said that
spies8magalie (12:39:24 AM): I meant what I said
spies8magalie (12:39:38 AM): I wanted to get everyone off my back
Spies8Awohali (12:40:04 AM): Bbut here you are saying that you actually meant she was an honest cit
spies8magalie (12:40:05 AM): but for the past few episodes
spies8magalie (12:40:18 AM): I didnt want to look at gertrude
spies8magalie (12:40:40 AM): because I would get this topic come up
spies8magalie (12:41:10 AM): and I simply forgotten all about Gertrude
Spies8Awohali (12:41:24 AM): So you said that she was an honest Cit because you felt like you had just cast a vote on a citizen under fire
Spies8Awohali (12:41:47 AM): But said that she was an honest cit, not because you felt that way, but to get people to leave you alone.
spies8magalie (12:41:48 AM): no I had no idea others were going to vote for her
Spies8Awohali (12:41:58 AM): And then voted for her because you suspected her still, despite feeling that she was a Cit.
spies8magalie (12:42:23 AM): it was a waste vote because that whole week I was out and I didnt know that we could vote for no one
Spies8Awohali (12:42:25 AM): Am I mistaken here at all?
spies8mary (12:42:29 AM): Do you have an opinion on Gertrude now? Did she ask you about your suspicions?
spies8magalie (12:43:55 AM): no I complete left the gertrude thing alone because if I were to FOS her when everyone already FOS her I dont want to seem bandwagonish
spies8cinnamyn (12:44:27 AM): magalie u r da weirdest persun ever
spies8cinnamyn (12:44:37 AM): cuz all of ur defenses r exactly wut a spy wud want 2 do
spies8cinnamyn (12:44:41 AM): but u sayin' dem out loud
spies8magalie (12:44:43 AM): I voted for her so that it buys me some more time
Spies8Awohali (12:45:09 AM): This is merely because she is thinking like a Spy, Cinnamyn.
spies8claude (12:46:00 AM): Or because she is one.
spies8magalie (12:46:40 AM): guys I dont want to leave right now because I feel like there is so much more that I want to tell you but I have work tomorrow. Im not done and will be on in the morning.
spies8magalie (12:47:04 AM): before I leave
Spies8Awohali (12:47:29 AM): It is unfortunate that you msut go, but understandable.
spies8magalie (12:47:42 AM): so if anyone has anything to ask me post it in the forums
Spies8Awohali (12:47:52 AM): Farewell, Magalie, thank you for being cooperative tonight! I hope that we will be able to discuss thing sfurther tomorrow.
spies8magalie (12:48:02 AM) has left the room.
spies8cinnamyn (12:48:44 AM): well.
spies8cinnamyn (12:48:49 AM): lmbo
Spies8Awohali (12:50:15 AM): My butt is laying on the floor underneath my desk, as well.
spies8cinnamyn (12:51:00 AM): o awohali, u makes me smile
Spies8Awohali (12:51:31 AM): Happiness must abound if we are to be victorious.
spies8gertrude (12:51:32 AM) has left the room.
spies8claude (12:53:10 AM): Come on, honestly.
spies8claude (12:53:23 AM): "I wanted to see how spies think so I read all of the old Spy HQs"
spies8claude (12:53:34 AM): "But only so I could catch Spies!"
spies8cinnamyn (12:54:02 AM): yall shudda seen da look on my face wen she sed "i dont remember sayin dat"
spies8cinnamyn (12:54:10 AM): but i bet u can imagine
spies8claude (12:54:30 AM): heh
spies8claude (12:54:31 AM): yeah
spies8cinnamyn (12:55:40 AM): did she say who she suspected currently.?
spies8cory (12:56:47 AM): Magalie?
spies8cory (12:56:50 AM): Earlier she was saying Claude
spies8claude (12:57:34 AM): And nobody else
Spies8Awohali (12:58:35 AM): For her focus is on Claude.
Spies8Awohali (12:58:48 AM): And a magnifiscent focus it is.
spies8cinnamyn (1:09:12 AM): well aint we all chatty cathyz
Spies8Awohali (1:09:37 AM): The stupor induced from chatting with Magalie is rumored to last up to half an hour
spies8Nita (1:09:53 AM): I think we tired from the challenge y sad from losin, that what I think
Spies8Awohali (1:10:07 AM): To be fair, Magalie talked a great deal tonight from what I saw, and apparently talked a lot more before I entered.
spies8cinnamyn (1:10:21 AM): i agree nita
Spies8Awohali (1:10:32 AM): The challenge certainly drained me a bit.
spies8cinnamyn (1:10:34 AM): espeshully wen i think our persun wont b exiled n e way lmbo
Spies8Awohali (1:11:03 AM): I doubt that he/she will, too, but we must not think that way while deciding who to nominate.
spies8cory (1:11:16 AM): I agree.
spieschatcamera (1:21:53 AM) has entered the room.
spies8cinnamyn (1:26:29 AM): k yall im out 4 da nite, hopefully imma make it in tyme 4 exile tomz
spies8mary (1:26:58 AM) has left the room.
Spies8Awohali (1:26:59 AM): Farewell, Cinnamyn. I am glad you said that, as it had slipped my mind that the Exile is tomorrow and not Friday.
spies8Nita (1:27:00 AM): Buenas noches Cinnamyn
spies8cinnamyn (1:27:17 AM) has left the room.
spies8claude (1:30:20 AM): So thoughts? Is Magalie really just the most obvious spy ever?
Spies8Awohali (1:30:35 AM): It is entirely possible.
Spies8Awohali (1:31:07 AM): I know there will be some who will say "A Spy wouldn't be that obvious" but... Is there anyone who believes that Magalie behaves typically?
Spies8Awohali (1:47:32 AM): It is time for me to retire for the night. Farewell all.

[Awohali]

spies8jenny (6:07:03 PM): i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad276/spies8jenny/Picture104.jpg

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The first picture is the citizen side. Highest is myself and other confirmed (which pretty much means dead) citizens, with it going down from there.

The second picture is confirmed (again pretty much meaning dead) spies, and going down from there. The darth maul figurine is to mark where it's less that I suspect them and more that I don't really know much on them yet.
spies8jenny is available (6:07:18 PM)
Spies8Awohali (6:07:56 PM): Anm interesting array of suspects, to be certain.
spies8jenny is available (6:28:21 PM)
spies8jenny (6:29:38 PM): Sorry bout having to run out there. Anyways, I've been using that to help me figure out where I should look. If I know who I think is cit, then I have a better idea of either where I should get more information, or where I might want to vote.
Spies8Awohali (6:30:28 PM): That is quite all right. I can see how this could be used to your advantage, of course I still see merit in hunting for SPies, also.
spies8jenny (6:31:35 PM): Well of course, if something happens that is obviously spy like, then take a look at that, but sometimes it doesn't quite work out that way, and there isn't much to go on, especially early in the game. So this helps me at least figure out where the best areas to look are.
Spies8Awohali (6:32:04 PM): Yes, early game is often devoid of anything major, but we are in full swing now, I should think.
spies8jenny (6:32:28 PM): Yep, but it's still helpful to have it around I think. No reason not to at least.
Spies8Awohali (6:32:43 PM): I agree, it alone can not hurt you.
spies8jenny is available (7:15:40 PM)
spies8jenny (7:16:24 PM): As a side note, if Al somehow does turn out to be a spy, I'm beating his corpse to a pulp after I caused Savanny to get bandwagoned to make sure he didn't get exiled.
Spies8Awohali (7:16:58 PM): That would indeed be most unfortunate, if it turned out that way. I do not know enough about him to offer much insight as to whether or not he could be a Spy, though.
spies8jenny (7:17:39 PM): He's given me a few moments of wallbanging since claiming to me over things here and there, and I really liked having Savanny around to talk to.
Spies8Awohali (7:19:12 PM): It is a shame that she was not able to speak of her role sooner than she did.
spies8jenny (7:19:50 PM): She told me she didn't want to claim, because her role would be useless if everyone knew who it was, since it involved sending annonymous messages.
spies8jenny (7:20:08 PM): And that it was a role that could go either way as far as alignment goes, and thus didn't think it'd keep her safe anyways.
Spies8Awohali (7:21:04 PM): That is a valid point, actually.
spies8jenny (7:23:09 PM): Have I mentioned that last thursday was a lousy night for me?
Spies8Awohali (7:23:18 PM): Many times, I believe.
spies8jenny (7:23:29 PM): Because it really way.
spies8jenny (7:23:30 PM): was*
Spies8Awohali (7:24:09 PM): Sadly, days like that do pop up from time to time.
spies8jenny (7:25:01 PM): And I guess I'd rather that, then a day we find out the spies win or something, but it'd still be nice to have less days like that.
Spies8Awohali (7:26:10 PM): Yes, I would prefer if we had all days where we destroy Spies and are victorious, but that is difficult toa ccomplish.
spies8jenny is available (8:04:08 PM)
spies8jenny (8:09:59 PM): So what are you thinking so far?
Spies8Awohali (8:12:51 PM): I will most likely vote Magalie at this point. I suspect her, she is not a huge loss if she is a Cit, and if we present a more united front in our vote, it will give the Republicans a better idea of the suspicion we have on her.
Spies8Awohali (8:13:08 PM): That last point is something I am only concerned about because the Republicans seem to be all over the place concerning votes.
Spies8Awohali (8:13:20 PM): And I have no idea who is going to ultimately be nominated over there.
spies8jenny (8:13:59 PM): I wish we had gotten the power and protections, but maybe it's a good thing after all that they got the vote. This could be interesting to see the results of.
Spies8Awohali (8:14:26 PM): Well, if they remain 1 vote on each person, Spies can very easily decide the outcome.
spies8jenny is available (8:42:43 PM)
spies8jenny (8:43:03 PM): That was weird. My brower froze on me for a minute.
spies8jenny (8:43:18 PM): I'll post what I have of the group chat before I go back in the room so I don't lose it
Spies8Awohali (8:43:32 PM): That is probably a wisde decision.

[Awohali]

spies8mary (5:57:32 PM): We've been chatting for about an hour and Nita was here.
Spies8Awohali (5:57:55 PM): Did Nita continue to defend her No Exile vote?
spies8mary (5:57:57 PM): Jenny is still uninterested and watching.
spies8mary (5:58:06 PM): No, we didn't discuss that.
spies8mary (5:58:33 PM): Chance posted a list of 6 spies that didn't include Magalie.
spies8mary (5:58:41 PM): And then said he was probably voting Magalie.
spies8mary (5:59:14 PM): I have a bit of a problem with that. I asked him for his best evidence on Magalie and he went looking for it.
Spies8Awohali (5:59:40 PM): I have not yet gotten to that thrread, but that is very curious...
spies8mary (5:59:50 PM): Who are you leaning towards voting tonight and why?
Spies8Awohali (6:00:00 PM): I am abnout to try to engage Jenny in a conversation about suspicions publicly, after she is done posting her case defense
Spies8Awohali (6:00:54 PM): I am currently balanced between Jenny and Magalie. While I suspect Claude, I feel that now is a better time to go aftter one of those two people. Jenny makes more sense as a nomination given that 9 of them are familiar with her.
spies8mary (6:01:01 PM): Ok.
Spies8Awohali (6:02:38 PM): It is odd that Chance listed you orignally, before taking you off...
spies8mary (6:03:39 PM): He took me off while chatting with me.
Spies8Awohali (6:03:55 PM): Did he tell you why he suspects you?
spies8mary (6:04:29 PM): He said I jumped on him with Claude while he was gone.
spies8mary (6:04:53 PM): I pointed out that I voted for him while he was here.
Spies8Awohali (6:05:11 PM): Indeed... What did he say to that?
spies8mary (6:05:24 PM): Checking.
spies8mary (6:06:41 PM): [16:26] spies8chance: which means you've either rejected my defenses of said reasons out of hand, or not listened to them.
Spies8Awohali (6:07:10 PM): He is probably referring to the "pushy" comment debacle.
spies8mary (6:07:36 PM): He took me off his Spies list at 6:21
spies8mary (6:08:25 PM): Right before our conversation started, actually.
Spies8Awohali (6:08:43 PM): That... Does not make a great deal of sense.
spies8mary (6:08:44 PM): [16:22] spies8mary: Hi.
[16:22] spies8chance: sup mary.
[16:23] spies8mary: Do you have time to talk?
spies8mary is available (6:09:17 PM)
spies8mary (6:10:46 PM): Wow.
Spies8Awohali (6:10:50 PM): So he lists you as a suspect, then takes you off... Then talks to you after.
spies8mary (6:10:51 PM): [16:20] spies8mary: has joined the chat
Spies8Awohali (6:11:00 PM): Aah, now we are getting somewhere.
spies8mary (6:11:31 PM): I joined the group chat. Then I chatted him up immediately and while I was chatting him up he took me off his list.
spies8mary (6:11:34 PM): So weird.
Spies8Awohali (6:11:58 PM): I also find his last post to be odd: neutral - allan, jenny, mary
leaning spy - magalie, rondak
spy - claude
Spies8Awohali (6:12:23 PM): Yet he did not include Magalie in his 6 Spy post.
spies8mary (6:13:03 PM): Right.
spies8mary (6:13:27 PM): [16:51] spies8Nita: If magalie look worse why you no post her name half an hour ago?
Spies8Awohali (6:13:29 PM): And replaced you with Zedekiah, a guy he has not even met, rather than her
spies8mary (6:14:04 PM): [16:51] spies8chance: i didn't really give her much thought until mary asked me about her.
spies8mary (6:14:23 PM): I didn't ask him about her.
Spies8Awohali (6:14:41 PM): Did you call him on that?>
spies8mary (6:14:57 PM): Yes.
Spies8Awohali (6:15:05 PM): Did he cower?
spies8mary (6:15:14 PM): He kind of blew on past it.
Spies8Awohali (6:15:33 PM): Not the reaction I would expect a Citizen to have, for certain...
spies8mary (6:15:53 PM): I questioned Jenny last night.
spies8mary (6:16:04 PM): She didn't ask me a single thing in return.
Spies8Awohali (6:16:28 PM): I honestly do not believe that she is interested in Spy hunting
Spies8Awohali (6:16:50 PM): Whether or not it is because she is a Spy is up for debate... But she has not demonstrated a desire to hunt
spies8mary (6:16:53 PM): She just watches and answers if you pin her down.
spies8mary (6:17:01 PM): Nope.
Spies8Awohali (6:17:05 PM): Indeed... I do not like that approach
spies8mary (6:17:21 PM): I like my three choices for Spies tonight.
spies8mary (6:17:33 PM): It stinks that we might see none exiled.
Spies8Awohali (6:17:51 PM): Yes it does... I would have been much happier had each team Exiled someone tonight.
Spies8Awohali (6:17:57 PM): The other team, speaking of them...
Spies8Awohali (6:18:27 PM): When I departed early this afternoon, 4 votes had been cast, all for 4 different people... And not muh has changed since then. Although, I have noticed that Lilith seems to follow Tina's moves.
spies8mary (6:18:33 PM): People followed Tina like sheep.
Spies8Awohali (6:18:45 PM): Yes. I do not understand why they would do that.
spies8mary (6:19:07 PM): Jasmine didn't. I somewhat trust her.
spies8mary (6:19:33 PM): Chance still suspects her heavily.
spies8mary (6:19:42 PM): I asked if he'd followed her lately.
spies8mary (6:19:45 PM): He said no.
Spies8Awohali (6:19:55 PM): I am still wary of Jasmine... If Chance is a Spy, that would change greatly, though.
spies8mary (6:20:05 PM): If someone was in your top three Spy suspects, wouldn't you be watching them?
Spies8Awohali (6:20:23 PM): That is a very good question., I can not imagine not paying attentiopn to someone I suspect.
spies8mary (6:20:54 PM): claude, mary, jasmine, one of jenny/rondak, and two of the republicans that i haven't really looked at. (and Zed added later)
spies8mary (6:21:05 PM): He's all over Claude. Knows nothing about me.
spies8mary (6:21:13 PM): Knows nothing about Rondak.
spies8mary (6:21:27 PM): Had nice things to say about Jenny when I asked for reasons she's a spy.
spies8mary (6:21:45 PM): Knows nothing about Zed.
spies8mary (6:22:12 PM): He seems like a bright guy. I can't fathom the lack of suspicions.
Spies8Awohali (6:22:36 PM): Nor can I. It does not fit who he is, which I figured out by accident.
spies8mary (6:22:51 PM): He proved he could make a case if he wanted to.
spies8mary (6:23:04 PM): He's sitting on his laurels on that case alone.
Spies8Awohali (6:23:25 PM): Much like Magalie, in that regard. Looking only at Claude.
spies8mary (6:23:29 PM): Yes.
Spies8Awohali (6:23:38 PM): A pattern, perhaps...
spies8mary (6:23:40 PM): Mentioning others but having no reasons.
spies8mary (6:23:53 PM): Magalie mentioned Nita Steph Gertrude
spies8mary (6:24:00 PM): Nothing to back any of it up.
Spies8Awohali (6:24:23 PM): Ah, I beg to differ, she felt that Gertrude was an honest Citizen but truly suspected her to be a Spy. ...
spies8mary (6:24:44 PM): That's a joke, right?
Spies8Awohali (6:24:52 PM): It is, albeit not a great one
spies8mary (6:24:56 PM): I thought so.
Spies8Awohali (6:25:21 PM): A wise assumption at this point, is to consider everything I say about Magalie to not be serious
spies8mary (6:25:29 PM): Who would your list of six be?
Spies8Awohali (6:25:44 PM): I have been thinking heavily about this since the topic was posted...
spies8mary (6:25:57 PM): I didn't intend for it to be asked of everyone.
spies8mary (6:26:21 PM): I suspect I was killed in a previous game for posting a list like that.
Spies8Awohali (6:26:58 PM): I would certainly place Jenny, Magalie, and Claude on there... As for the others, I imagine that several are on the other team. Tina, Lilithm and Jasmine all interest me.
spies8mary (6:27:04 PM): I only asked Gertrude and Chance.
spies8mary (6:27:20 PM): Gertrude because she always tries to make hte people around her happy.
Spies8Awohali (6:27:27 PM): Two people who do not have a track record of suspecting more than one person, a good idea.
spies8mary (6:27:42 PM): Sorry, and Claude.
spies8mary (6:27:49 PM): Who has two suspects now.
Spies8Awohali (6:28:05 PM): Claude is making great headway, then!
spies8mary (6:28:08 PM): Yes.
spies8mary (6:28:14 PM): He expanded his horizons.
spies8mary (6:28:35 PM): Time for your session with Jenny.
Spies8Awohali (6:28:35 PM): Some day, he might even suspect several people at once.
Spies8Awohali (6:28:39 PM): Ah, here we go...
spies8mary (6:28:44 PM): I'm going to take a quick walk to wake up.
spies8mary (6:28:51 PM): I'll be back.
Spies8Awohali (6:29:20 PM): I shall be here; enjoy your walk.
spies8mary is available (7:28:32 PM)
Spies8Awohali (7:31:02 PM): In case you missed it, Jenny used ustati words to say but very usti in meaning.
Spies8Awohali (7:31:55 PM): Which is my way of syaing; she used many words to say relatively nothing.
spies8mary (7:33:17 PM): I scrolled up and I feel like I just watched a politician testify before Congress.
Spies8Awohali (7:33:53 PM): I can see where you would get that feeling. At least she did not state that she did not 'recall' something dozens of times.

[Awohali]

spies8claude (5:52:22 PM) has entered the room.
spies8chance (5:52:22 PM) has entered the room.
spies8mary (5:52:22 PM) has entered the room.
spies8jenny (5:52:22 PM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (5:52:22 PM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (5:52:30 PM): Osiyo, everyone
spies8mary (5:52:31 PM): Osiyo, Awohali.
spies8jenny (5:52:34 PM): Hi Hali!
spies8chance (5:52:42 PM): 'sup, hal.
Spies8Awohali (5:52:46 PM): How is everyone on this fine afternoon?
spies8chance (5:52:54 PM): blech.
spies8mary (5:53:03 PM): Chance needs medicine.
spies8jenny (5:53:15 PM): Welcome back, I thought you'd be around a couple hours ago.
Spies8Awohali (5:53:21 PM): Is he suffering from tunnel vision syndrome?
Spies8Awohali (5:53:33 PM): I did as well, but things did not work out as I had planned them to.
spies8chance (5:53:38 PM): cute, hal. i thought you were above that, personally.
Spies8Awohali (5:53:57 PM): I was only joking, Chance, I am on your side in that debate, after all.
spies8chance (5:54:09 PM): sorry for being snappish. i've had a rough day and my throat hurts.
spies8chance (5:54:19 PM): mary recommended some lozenges. i think i'm going to go get some in a bit.
Spies8Awohali (5:54:54 PM): I apologize, I will go a bit easier on you then, today. I did not know that you did not feel well.
spies8chance (5:55:30 PM): question - those 'cases' threads that were put up for the republicans' benefit. are we allowed to defend ourselves in those, or are they purely so the republicans can see what's going down? i'd like to defend myself, but i don't want to ruin the purpose of the thread.
spies8mary (5:55:47 PM): No, they should have both sides of each case.
spies8mary (5:56:08 PM): At exile, the Republicans may only have 5-10 minutes to decide.
spies8chance (5:56:19 PM): okay, so i should, then.
spies8mary (5:56:24 PM): Some may read the whole thread. Some might just read whatever summary we put up top.
spies8mary (5:56:25 PM): Yes.
spies8chance (5:56:32 PM): okay, thanks.
spies8jenny (5:56:33 PM): I'll go ahead and post something in a few minutes then in my own.
Spies8Awohali (5:57:04 PM): Indeed, defenses are necessary to give both sides a jennyto speak.
spies8jenny (5:57:26 PM):
spies8jenny (5:57:31 PM): Poor Lucky.
spies8chance (6:00:02 PM): heh.
spies8chance (6:00:22 PM): ugh, i can't even remember if i posted my claude case in episode one or two. i think it was episode two, though, wasn't it?
spies8chance (6:00:27 PM): my head hurts.
Spies8Awohali (6:01:13 PM): It was indeed episode 2
spies8chance (6:01:17 PM): thanks, hal.
Spies8Awohali (6:01:33 PM): My pleasure! It was a case of merit.
spies8chance (6:07:01 PM): posted.
spies8jenny (6:07:18 PM): I'll be right back, my sister needs to get a ride to a rehersal.
spies8chance (6:07:26 PM): *rehearsal
spies8chance (6:07:29 PM): god, i'm turning into gertie.
spies8chance (6:07:54 PM): my throat's really hurting. i'll be back in a few minutes, guys. mary, you said chloraseptic, right?
spies8mary (6:09:01 PM): Yes.
spies8chance (6:09:10 PM): okay. back in a little bit. i'll leave my computer on.
spies8mary (6:09:17 PM): Ok.
spies8jenny (6:28:21 PM): Okies I'm back!
spies8jenny (6:28:29 PM): Not a lot to miss though.
Spies8Awohali (6:28:46 PM): Welcome back, Jenny
Spies8Awohali (6:29:09 PM): I am curious, Jenny, what do you think of the other summarized cases posted this episode so far... Starting with the one on Chance?
spies8jenny (6:34:38 PM): Anyways, to stop talking to you in private for a minute, and answer this question, I've been hearing a lot on him, but I'm only today getting much of a chance to hear his side on things, so I'm not going to think about voting for him until I hear more about those events.
Spies8Awohali (6:35:13 PM): What do you think of the points against him?
spies8jenny (6:42:03 PM): Blarg, have to split my IM up. Too big.
spies8jenny (6:42:10 PM): The part about him getting information wrong, I haven't heard too much about besides that it was about Tini and Cory possibly talking to each other after teams were assigned. It looks like that it's since been cleared up and that he admitted to screwing that up, so that doesn't really tell me much.

The second part about him being on claude is one of the things I'm hoping to hear more from him on. I just asked him about why he brought up claude to begin with before I had to go drop my sister off, and when he gets back I'll ask him about what else he was doing at the time.

spies8jenny (6:42:18 PM): The third point I'll have to trust you guys on since I wasn't really watching to see who was coming online for the other team most of the time. If it is true, it sounds kind of like what Maggie has been doing, to a smaller extent.

Jumping on Claude seems to fall with the part about getting information wrong, and is part of what I'd been talking to him about a few minutes ago.

I don't know much about exactly what happened with Margot's exile, so until I ask about that, so I'll have to wait on that.

spies8jenny (6:42:23 PM): As for being protected from Exile, the role could easily be a spies as well, so I wouldn't say that's much of a tell until we find out more about the role.\
Spies8Awohali (6:43:03 PM): Indeed, a well-thought out answer that I thank you for. What about Claude?
spies8jenny (6:43:31 PM): Well I have a few thoughts on him, but let me look at what's been posted on him, since that's what I think you're asking about.
Spies8Awohali (6:43:45 PM): I woul;d like to hear your thoguhts firs,t if that is OK.
spies8jenny (6:43:54 PM): Sure.
Spies8Awohali (6:43:59 PM): We can always talk about the points against him later.
spies8jenny (6:47:31 PM): Well my impression on him is that he takes the game super seriously, and that he expects everyone else to have the same mindset, which is why he felt like people were actually going to vote for him just because of his "If Margot is a cit, you can exile me" thing.

He also had some weird comments when we first got to this team about how he didn't believe anyone would want to talk to Cory because of how abrasive he was which just struck me as ridiculous, especially considering he was talking about the first night of the game.

As for the roleclaim itself, I can certainly see it being a spy role, but Sammy also likes to screw with people's expectations, so I'm waiting to see how it gets used before deciding what's going on there.

Short version, he comes across to me as rather bullheaded, and I could see him being a spy, but I don't know for sure.
Spies8Awohali (6:48:39 PM): All right, I agree with you that his role could goeither way, and is not really very telling for either case... What about Magalie?
spies8jenny (6:49:04 PM): Maggie I think I'll just end up repeating myself with what I said in the vote topic, but I can say it again if you want me to.
Spies8Awohali (6:49:26 PM): Of you do not wish to repeat it, I will not hold it against you
spies8jenny (6:49:51 PM): I don't mind, I'm just saying it probably won't be much new. If you want me to anyways, I don't mind at all.
Spies8Awohali (6:50:31 PM): Well, perhaps we could try it from a new view point... What do you see as the three most suspicious things Magalie has done, and why?
spies8jenny (6:57:14 PM): Oh not again with the message too long thing.
spies8jenny (6:57:16 PM): The biggest thing... hmm.... if I had to decide, I'd say just insulting people who disagree with her really. There's going to be disagreements in this game, and just biting people's heads off whenever someone says that they don't agree does nothing to get new information or ideas out there, and only makes people not want to talk to you.

spies8jenny (6:57:24 PM): I guess going with it a bit is how it sounds like whenever she does state some suspects, it's because someone else mentioned it first, and not always knowing what she's talking about, like what happened when Spice asked her about suspects and she responded with Stephi a couple minutes after Ni-Ni told her the same suspicion, and then got mad when she found out Stephi wasn't on the same team.

spies8jenny (6:57:32 PM): After that, I don't know what she expects to really do if she's never around. I could understand if a person had a preference for posting or talking to people in AIM, I know I prefer using the latter myself, but it doesn't seem like she really uses much of either. I don't see how she's going to get anywhere if she doesn't say anything in the burg OR come online for any sort of extended period of time. As I said in topic, she could just be having the worst timing ever with life getting in the way, I can sympathize with that myself, but it's been a little over two weeks now, and this is still an issue? Either she has the worst luck ever right now, or something is wrong.
Spies8Awohali (6:58:45 PM): I can understand these things indeed. These are your top suspicious on Magalie?
spies8jenny (6:59:20 PM): The only other thing I really have on her is mostly hypothetical, and really depends on what the spies position in things are, with how the challenge went.
spies8jenny (7:00:08 PM): She could have been failing the challenge on purpose, or maybe it has nothing to do with anything regardless of alignment.
Spies8Awohali (7:00:48 PM): Indeed, that is a hard issue to tackle properly, since we can not know for sure.
spies8chance (7:07:31 PM): i'm back.
spies8chance (7:07:34 PM): what did i miss?
Spies8Awohali (7:07:48 PM): Welcome back, Chance. I was discussing with Jenny the cases that have been made for this episode.
spies8jenny (7:07:55 PM): Hi Lucky!
spies8chance (7:07:56 PM): ah.
spies8chance (7:07:59 PM): hi jen.
spies8jenny (7:08:04 PM):
spies8chance (7:08:36 PM): skimming upward... me, claude, and mags?
spies8chance (7:08:44 PM): cool, cool.
spies8jenny (7:09:59 PM): So now that you're back, let me go find what I said I wanted to talk with you more about, so I can ask you!
spies8chance (7:10:03 PM): hal, do you have an opinion of gertie?
spies8chance (7:10:05 PM): haha, okay jen.
Spies8Awohali (7:11:41 PM): Gertrude has continues to hang back quite a bit over recent times, though she is around fairly often enough.
Spies8Awohali (7:11:58 PM): It is something I would much prefer her not do, and I am prepared to discuss it with her in the future.
spies8chance (7:12:39 PM): she was on last night, but not for very long. i don't really know what she thinks and it kind of bothers me.
Spies8Awohali (7:13:14 PM): It bothers me as well. It is not fitting for someone such as herself to not get her suspicions out there.
spies8jenny (7:13:37 PM): I think she said she was away the last couple days and has been having to sneak on, didn't she?
spies8chance (7:13:43 PM): also, i think i mentioned this to mary earlier, but what do you think of allan?
spies8chance (7:13:48 PM): i wouldn't know, jen.
spies8chance (7:13:57 PM): i got a really weird vibe from his post in the vote tallies thread.
spies8chance (7:14:08 PM): kind of a 'now that i'm not being suspected i don't care' thing.
spies8gertrude (7:14:14 PM) has entered the room.
spies8chance (7:14:20 PM): haha, speak of the devil.
Spies8Awohali (7:14:21 PM): I know nothing about Allan, for I can never catch him online, but I do agree that his posts are someone odd at times.
spies8jenny (7:14:21 PM): Hi Gerty!
spies8chance (7:14:22 PM): 'sup gertie.
spies8jenny (7:14:25 PM): Nice timing!
Spies8Awohali (7:14:28 PM): Osiyom, Gertrude.
spies8gertrude (7:14:42 PM): Hey there, everyone!
spies8gertrude (7:15:23 PM): His post about "might as well see one of their alignments" annoyed me.
spies8gertrude (7:15:28 PM): Why is it nice timing?
spies8chance (7:15:38 PM): hal and i were just discussing you.
spies8jenny (7:15:40 PM): They were just asking about where you'd been lately.
spies8gertrude (7:16:03 PM): Ah, I apologize for my lack of activity. Getting internet access has been difficult.
Spies8Awohali (7:23:03 PM): Internet is not always an easy commodity to obtain.
spies8gertrude (7:23:21 PM): Indeed.
Spies8Awohali (7:24:27 PM): Have you ahd a chance to catch up with the goings on in the Burg, Gertrude?
spies8gertrude (7:24:36 PM): Oh, yes.
spies8gertrude (7:24:45 PM): Everything except the chat logs.
Spies8Awohali (7:25:37 PM): Those take forever anyway. What are your thoughts on the four major cases?
spies8gertrude (7:27:21 PM): It's curious to see that Magalie has now added lying to her list of detrimental actions.
spies8mary (7:27:30 PM): Hi.
Spies8Awohali (7:27:38 PM): It is indeed. Welcome back, Mary.
spies8mary (7:27:48 PM): I'm gross and sweaty from my walk.
spies8chance (7:28:07 PM): those lozenges have helped my throat, mary. thanks.
spies8mary (7:28:32 PM): Good.
Spies8Awohali (7:28:45 PM): The production of sweat merely signifies that the body has been properly functioning and burning off excesses.
spies8jenny (7:32:04 PM): Okies, now that things have calmed down a bit. Lucky could I hear your thoughts on what was going on with Margot's exile? I didn't follow what was going on at the time, and it seems to be coming up for you, so I want to hear your thoughts on it all.
spies8chance (7:34:28 PM): sure, although i didn't really have a lot to do with marge's exile. i was fixated on claude at the time.
spies8chance (7:35:39 PM): i was fine with seeing her go, personally, given my stance on inactives/unhelpfuls, but i could see her just being a useless citizen as opposed to a spy.
spies8jenny (7:36:19 PM): What exactly were suspicions on her for?
Spies8Awohali (7:36:51 PM): Given your stance on inactives/unhelpfuls, how do you feel about Magalie, Chance? (Sorry to ask a question right after Jenny has done so)
spies8chance (7:37:22 PM): i'll answer that one first because i'm having to go back and look to refresh my memory.
spies8chance (7:37:58 PM): that's part of the reason i'm nominating her myself, hal. i'm very flipfloppy on mags as to her alignment, but even if she is a citizen i don't think we're losing anything vital, plus the spies are losing a potential smokescreen.
spies8chance (7:40:50 PM): jen, as far as i could tell at the time, most of the suspicion of marge was that she was actively lurking. there was also something to do with her vote for gertie being fishy.
spies8jenny (7:57:46 PM): Three hours left until exile.
spies8gertrude (7:58:15 PM): I just posted my vote.
spies8gertrude (8:03:17 PM): And I have to leave again, I'm sorry. I hope to be on for the Exile, but I'm not sure.
spies8gertrude (8:03:26 PM) has left the room.
spies8chance (8:03:51 PM): i've actually got to head out as well. i should be back for exile, though.
spies8chance (8:04:07 PM): see you guys.
spies8jenny (8:04:08 PM): Okies!
spies8jenny (8:04:11 PM): See you soon!
spies8chance (8:04:22 PM) has left the room.
spies8rondak (8:33:13 PM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (8:34:49 PM): Greetings, Rondak.
spies8rondak (8:34:59 PM): Greetings.
spies8jenny (8:35:00 PM): Hi Rondie!
spies8rondak (8:35:03 PM): How are you all?
Spies8Awohali (8:35:26 PM): Doing quite well. Have you prepared your vote?
spies8rondak (8:35:53 PM): Nope.
spies8jenny (8:39:03 PM) has left the room.
spies8jenny (8:44:44 PM) has entered the room.
spies8jenny (8:44:55 PM): Sorry about that, that was weird.
spies8rondak (8:46:07 PM) has left the room.
spies8Nita (8:48:00 PM) has entered the room.
spies8Nita (8:48:06 PM): Hola
spies8jenny (8:48:11 PM): Hi Ni-Ni!
Spies8Awohali (8:48:12 PM): Osiyo, Nita.
spies8jenny (8:48:43 PM): Rondie just told me he was going to vote No Exile and go to bed because he apparently had someone nearly die at work today, and he wasn't in a good mood.
spies8Nita (8:49:14 PM): Poor elf
spies8Nita (8:49:22 PM): Sorry to hear that happen
Spies8Awohali (8:52:45 PM): That is unfortunate, although the copout for having not been around this episode to assess his voting situation earlier can not be ignored entirely, either.
spies8jenny (8:53:39 PM): On the bright side, I don't think there was much chance of him leaving today anyways, so at least it can wait a day.
spies8Nita (8:55:42 PM): If you given the choice between Magalie y Themba, who you vote for y why?
Spies8Awohali (8:55:49 PM): A true point, but we can not accept people's inactivity forever, either. Speaking of inactivity, I am going to be heading out for a short while... I will be back in time for the Exile, though.
spies8jenny (8:56:12 PM): Okies! See you soon!
Spies8Awohali (8:56:18 PM): To quickly and simply answer Nita's question: Magalie, for I have not met Themba formally and do not vote for people I do not know, especially over someone I suspect.
Spies8Awohali (8:57:41 PM): Farewell. I had to post my conversations before departing.

[Awohali]

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