Episode 3 - Vote
Jul 1, 2010 19:25:12 GMT -6
Post by Isaac on Jul 1, 2010 19:25:12 GMT -6
Well it was close between Themba and Jasmine, but in the end, I will vote for Jasmine.
Argument is here:
Ok, vote wise this has been a hard day to decide for me as I had to get in and meet all the new Republicans(Dane, stop slacking and lets chat already....seriously you're the last one) and I wanted to view all the old arguments and new arguments to get a full picture. As the day draws to a close, I find myself suspecting two players the most. Themba and Jasmine.
With Themba I tried exploring some of the older arguments and got to talk and question Themba about them. Over all after chatting and seeing how she has been playing, I find it very suspect. And the icing on the cake has got to be her vote for Jasmine as the argument she's using is something from before the group move and a weak argument all by itself. There are several other things out there that are better examples and I will be honest when I say I haven't heard much of a case put forth by you on Jasmine yet, so not really sure where thats coming from. Also, shot in the dark, but please tell me you didn't change your power role vote from Tina to Owen just because Tina voted you. Because thats kinda what it looks like.
With Jasmine I already had an entire thread to have people keep in mind. When the group move happened I remembered it, but tried to take in all the new info from here as well to get a balanced picture. Basically within the last day or so Jasmine has just confirmed all the things I was watching from earlier and it's enough for me to vote her this time.
It's very peculiar in my mind that jasmine agreed with my thread on the Republican's side about not just focusing on the moved dems and remembering old info and trying to draw conclusions from everything as a whole and then actually end up not putting anything new forward herself. Her reasoning was something to the fact that she is still trying get to know all the Republicans, so instead of actually looking at past cases over here and drawing new conclusions, she voted me from what she thinks is suspicious from before the group change. And then once again as an argument, she says this:
Today at 10:12am, Jasmine wrote:
Just to clairfy. I've always thought Claude was a citizen. You seem to have been confused. I've thought Chance is a spy. I didn't read his claim on Claude because we weren't going to exile Claude because of his PR claim. I still think Claude is a citizen.
Once again she uses "we" and it sounds like since the majority didn't go along with something, she wouldn't either. I've mentioned this before and she still does it. Even in the vote for me up above it sounds as though she didn't go along with votong me yesterday was because others weren't sure. That is no way to base opinions in this game. We all need to speak our minds to get anywhere and it seems like you are just waiting for the next bandwagon to role along before you throw your thumb out there and hitch a ride.
Additionally you actually threw out a theory in private chat that could have made for an interesting discussion, but I never saw it materialize anywhere on the forums. There is nothing wrong with throwing out new ideas and discussing them and it probably would have opened the door for you to get to know more Republicans since it is one of the things you said you are working on.
And the fact that Stephanie strikes you as a spy but there is nothing else put forth by you to show the rest of us makes it look like you are trying to list posssible leads without actually having to do much research. Again, not what a citizen would do to help the rest of us out. And it just seems so much like you currently just can't be bothered and that attitude struck me as odd on the democrats side as well.
I assumed things may change or that maybe I was over analitical in my previous thread on you, but the same patterns with you are emerging here as well and that can't be good.
So yes, I will vote for Jasmine this round.
Argument is here:
Ok, vote wise this has been a hard day to decide for me as I had to get in and meet all the new Republicans(Dane, stop slacking and lets chat already....seriously you're the last one) and I wanted to view all the old arguments and new arguments to get a full picture. As the day draws to a close, I find myself suspecting two players the most. Themba and Jasmine.
With Themba I tried exploring some of the older arguments and got to talk and question Themba about them. Over all after chatting and seeing how she has been playing, I find it very suspect. And the icing on the cake has got to be her vote for Jasmine as the argument she's using is something from before the group move and a weak argument all by itself. There are several other things out there that are better examples and I will be honest when I say I haven't heard much of a case put forth by you on Jasmine yet, so not really sure where thats coming from. Also, shot in the dark, but please tell me you didn't change your power role vote from Tina to Owen just because Tina voted you. Because thats kinda what it looks like.
With Jasmine I already had an entire thread to have people keep in mind. When the group move happened I remembered it, but tried to take in all the new info from here as well to get a balanced picture. Basically within the last day or so Jasmine has just confirmed all the things I was watching from earlier and it's enough for me to vote her this time.
It's very peculiar in my mind that jasmine agreed with my thread on the Republican's side about not just focusing on the moved dems and remembering old info and trying to draw conclusions from everything as a whole and then actually end up not putting anything new forward herself. Her reasoning was something to the fact that she is still trying get to know all the Republicans, so instead of actually looking at past cases over here and drawing new conclusions, she voted me from what she thinks is suspicious from before the group change. And then once again as an argument, she says this:
Today at 10:12am, Jasmine wrote:
Just to clairfy. I've always thought Claude was a citizen. You seem to have been confused. I've thought Chance is a spy. I didn't read his claim on Claude because we weren't going to exile Claude because of his PR claim. I still think Claude is a citizen.
Once again she uses "we" and it sounds like since the majority didn't go along with something, she wouldn't either. I've mentioned this before and she still does it. Even in the vote for me up above it sounds as though she didn't go along with votong me yesterday was because others weren't sure. That is no way to base opinions in this game. We all need to speak our minds to get anywhere and it seems like you are just waiting for the next bandwagon to role along before you throw your thumb out there and hitch a ride.
Additionally you actually threw out a theory in private chat that could have made for an interesting discussion, but I never saw it materialize anywhere on the forums. There is nothing wrong with throwing out new ideas and discussing them and it probably would have opened the door for you to get to know more Republicans since it is one of the things you said you are working on.
And the fact that Stephanie strikes you as a spy but there is nothing else put forth by you to show the rest of us makes it look like you are trying to list posssible leads without actually having to do much research. Again, not what a citizen would do to help the rest of us out. And it just seems so much like you currently just can't be bothered and that attitude struck me as odd on the democrats side as well.
I assumed things may change or that maybe I was over analitical in my previous thread on you, but the same patterns with you are emerging here as well and that can't be good.
So yes, I will vote for Jasmine this round.