Episode 10 group chats
Aug 10, 2010 6:31:31 GMT -6
Post by Stephanie on Aug 10, 2010 6:31:31 GMT -6
(9:14:09 PM) spies8claude entered the room.
(9:14:09 PM) spies8owen entered the room.
(9:14:09 PM) spies8dane entered the room.
(9:14:09 PM) spies8stephanie entered the room.
(9:14:09 PM) JinjosandJiggies entered the room.
(9:14:28 PM) spies8stephanie: hi?
(9:15:38 PM) spies8dane: hey
(9:15:49 PM) spies8dane: so 2 questions for you
(9:16:09 PM) spies8dane: 1: do you think cinnamyn and rondak were distancing, or do you think rondak is a cit
(9:16:53 PM) spies8dane: that is a question for you stephanie
(9:17:14 PM) spies8stephanie: i was waiting for question 1
(9:17:17 PM) spies8stephanie: 2*
(9:17:25 PM) spies8dane: question 2 is this:
(9:17:29 PM) spies8stephanie: idk about 1
(9:18:28 PM) spies8dane: if we assume at least one spy bussed cinnamyn, which of the 5 (you, owen, claude, rondak, or lawrence) bussed?
(9:19:16 PM) spies8stephanie: and why do we have to assume that one spy bussed?
(9:19:21 PM) spies8dane: we don't
(9:19:23 PM) spies8stephanie: the vote was very close 5-4
(9:19:25 PM) spies8dane: i'm saying if we do
(9:19:46 PM) spies8stephanie: so i would think that no spies bussed
(9:19:58 PM) spies8dane: you think 3 spies voted for rondak/
(9:19:59 PM) spies8dane: ?
(9:20:01 PM) spies8stephanie: unless rondak was also a spy
(9:20:18 PM) spies8dane: even so, you think 3/4 voters on rondak were spies?
(9:20:25 PM) spies8dane: if he was a cit?
(9:20:25 PM) spies8stephanie: brb
(9:20:33 PM) spies8dane: rondak voters were me, chance, kiara, and hambone
(9:20:45 PM) spies8dane: mary voted chance fnar
(9:20:54 PM) spies8dane: and jasmine and cinnamyn couldn't vote
(9:24:14 PM) spies8stephanie: sry, back
(9:24:39 PM) spies8dane: 4 people voted rondak
(9:24:46 PM) spies8dane: you think 2-3 were spies?
(9:24:49 PM) spies8stephanie: it's just that the vote was so close, i dont' see why a spy would vote another spy
(9:24:59 PM) spies8dane: both were looking pretty bad
(9:25:01 PM) spies8stephanie: unless rondak was also a spy
(9:25:15 PM) spies8dane: as for why
(9:25:17 PM) spies8dane: bussing
(9:25:51 PM) spies8stephanie: bussing is in play when someone is getting voted out by a big majority
(9:26:15 PM) spies8stephanie: when you could switch the exile candidate, i dont' think bussing comes into play
(9:26:38 PM) spies8dane: i think of bussing as just a spy voting a spy
(9:26:51 PM) spies8dane: to make themself look better
(9:27:25 PM) spies8stephanie: but why vote a spy to make yourself look better, when you could vote a cit and have them exiled
(9:28:08 PM) spies8owen left the room.
(9:28:12 PM) spies8dane: the reason would be if voting that cit would make you obvious (like if it went against how you'd stated your suspicions, or not voting the spy when you'd stated that you'd been suspicious of them forever)
(9:28:38 PM) spies8stephanie: it's getting close enough to the end that having it be 4-7 would be a big advantage to having it be 3-8
(9:29:12 PM) spies8dane: alright, so who of the rondak 4 (me, hambone, kiara, and chance) do you think are spies then?
(9:29:22 PM) spies8dane: and do you think mary, who voted "clear" chance, is a spy?
(9:29:32 PM) spies8stephanie: no on mary
(9:29:46 PM) spies8stephanie: yes on all of the rondak voters
(9:29:50 PM) spies8dane: ...
(9:29:53 PM) spies8dane: all?
(9:30:05 PM) spies8dane: 4/3 spies?
(9:30:06 PM) spies8stephanie: tho e1 keeps telling me that chance is cleared
(9:30:29 PM) spies8stephanie: it could be that rondak is spy also
(9:30:40 PM) spies8dane: apparently the angel somehow knew that the devil was a cit
(9:30:45 PM) spies8stephanie: in which case it wouldn't make that much diff
(9:30:48 PM) spies8dane: like it was in her role
(9:30:55 PM) spies8dane: so of me, hambone, and kiara
(9:31:03 PM) spies8dane: what is order of suspicion, most to least
(9:31:25 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara, you, hambone
(9:31:30 PM) spies8dane: k
(9:31:37 PM) spies8dane: oh
(9:31:42 PM) spies8dane: and where would you put jasmine
(9:31:52 PM) spies8stephanie: ahead of all of you
(9:31:55 PM) spies8dane: lol
(9:31:58 PM) spies8dane: fair enough
(9:32:20 PM) spies8dane: i'm assuming worst case scenario for now (her being cit) though I suspect her as well
(9:33:19 PM) spies8stephanie: so is your list still rondak, jasmine, me?
(9:33:41 PM) spies8dane: like I said, i'm leaving jasmine out for now
(9:33:50 PM) spies8dane: i'm assuming at least one on each wagon
(9:33:53 PM) spies8dane: so right now:
(9:34:07 PM) spies8dane: rondak, kiara/hambone, lawrence/you
(9:34:20 PM) spies8stephanie: i think 1 on each wagon only makes sense if rondak is spy
(9:34:39 PM) spies8dane: which i'm working uner the assumption of
(9:35:13 PM) spies8lawrence entered the room.
(9:35:33 PM) spies8stephanie: larry!
(9:37:16 PM) spies8lawrence: Good evening Stephanie
(9:37:44 PM) spies8stephanie: how are you?
(9:42:21 PM) spies8claude left the room.
(9:44:29 PM) spies8stephanie: larry, i wanted to ask question about last exile...
(9:44:45 PM) spies8lawrence: What would this question be?
(9:45:31 PM) spies8stephanie: did chance lobby you, like he lobbied me, to change your vote to rondak?
(9:45:48 PM) spies8lawrence: No
(9:45:54 PM) spies8dane: he lobbied me
(9:45:58 PM) spies8lawrence: But I wasn't around until probably 10 minutes before Exile
(9:45:59 PM) spies8dane: only to find i was already voting him
(9:46:25 PM) spies8stephanie: and what do you think of rondak now?
(9:46:27 PM) spies8dane: he also tried to lobby mary
(9:46:32 PM) spies8dane: me or lawrence?
(9:46:38 PM) spies8stephanie: larry?
(9:46:49 PM) spies8stephanie: are you still leaning cit on rondak?
(9:47:09 PM) spies8lawrence: The Cinnamyn interactions we're strange at the end of the round
(9:47:12 PM) spies8lawrence: (In the thead)
(9:47:25 PM) spies8lawrence: I'm not entirely sure
(9:47:42 PM) spies8lawrence: The fact that he's still kind of someone who people are converging on just for lurking bugs me
(9:47:50 PM) spies8dane: -_-
(9:47:56 PM) spies8lawrence: But as Claude mentioned, Cinnamyn RE: Rondak looks like distancing
(9:49:38 PM) spies8stephanie: as claude mentioned, i didn't see that
(9:49:49 PM) spies8stephanie: was that something he posted?
(9:49:55 PM) spies8lawrence: In chat after Exile
(9:50:06 PM) spies8stephanie: ahh ok
(9:51:38 PM) spies8stephanie: i thought you were in the camp that thought rondak was the cit scapegoat alternate candidate to cinnamny
(9:51:55 PM) spies8stephanie: rethinking that?
(9:52:03 PM) spies8lawrence: Yes
(9:53:13 PM) spies8stephanie: so who are your 3 spies right now?
(9:54:28 PM) spies8lawrence: Dane OR Rondak . . . . Jasmine . . . Owen
(9:54:34 PM) spies8lawrence: Not entirely confident on much of this stuff
(9:54:44 PM) spies8lawrence: Put in order of the reads I would pursue
(9:54:55 PM) spies8dane: you ought to take jasmine out of that for now
(9:55:02 PM) spies8dane: always assume worst case scenario
(9:55:09 PM) spies8dane: and worst case is that jasmine is a cit
(9:55:15 PM) spies8stephanie: jasmine is still in my list
(9:55:31 PM) spies8stephanie: why would i take her out?
(9:55:43 PM) spies8lawrence: There's no reason to take out someone you suspect
(9:55:52 PM) spies8lawrence: Go after the others first, perhaps
(9:55:56 PM) spies8dane: because she is not a threat to us and can always be voted last
(9:56:08 PM) spies8lawrence: But no reason to say "I don't suspect Jasmine" if you do just because she doesn't have a vote.
(9:56:17 PM) spies8dane: she should not be voted out until its confirmed she is a spy by the cit/spy ratio
(9:56:28 PM) spies8dane: I didn't say not to suspect her
(9:56:33 PM) spies8dane: she is one of my suspects
(9:56:44 PM) spies8dane: i'm saying she isn't one of the top people I would focus my efforts on
(9:56:55 PM) spies8dane: since sooner or later it will be proved to us by the ratio if she is or isn't a spy
(9:57:47 PM) spies8stephanie: so who are you focusing on, dane?
(9:58:07 PM) spies8dane: rondak primarily, followed by kiara and hambone
(9:58:51 PM) spies8dane: I'm still not sure why mary threw her vote away on a crucial vote, but her actions otherwise still have me on the fence with her
(9:59:21 PM) spies8dane: If only one of kiara and hambone is a spy, and jasmine is a cit, I think the last is lawrence, then you, then owen
(9:59:30 PM) spies8stephanie: i was surprised by mary vote, she told me she was voting cinn
(9:59:50 PM) MENAGERlE entered the room.
(9:59:52 PM) spies8dane: oh
(9:59:54 PM) spies8dane: OH!
(10:00:01 PM) spies8dane: nevermind, it makes perfect sense
(10:00:08 PM) spies8stephanie: oh?
(10:00:11 PM) spies8dane: chance has to be voted at least once for his role to activate
(10:00:19 PM) spies8dane: forgot that for a minute
(10:00:25 PM) spies8dane: thats actually pretty citish then
(10:01:11 PM) spies8stephanie: perhaps, although the vote was very close
(10:02:24 PM) spies8dane: wait
(10:02:36 PM) spies8dane: chances ability does what again?
(10:04:04 PM) spies8stephanie: why exactly did jenny think you were cit?
(10:04:39 PM) spies8dane: she said it was from talking to me and how I voted
(10:04:40 PM) spies8stephanie: cause you don't have a clue what
(10:04:45 PM) spies8stephanie: s going on?
(10:05:06 PM) spies8dane: I believe it is him having immunity from exile, I wasn't sure exactly how it worked if it required him to be voted to activate
(10:05:09 PM) spies8stephanie: chance can make someone immune from esile
(10:05:09 PM) spies8dane: so you can shut the fuck up
(10:05:11 PM) spies8stephanie: exile
(10:05:32 PM) spies8dane: I generally know more of what is going on than you do, but I check for details because I don't like making mistakes
(10:05:50 PM) spies8stephanie: mmmk
(10:07:51 PM) spies8stephanie: bedtime for me -- see you guys tomorrow
(9:14:09 PM) spies8owen entered the room.
(9:14:09 PM) spies8dane entered the room.
(9:14:09 PM) spies8stephanie entered the room.
(9:14:09 PM) JinjosandJiggies entered the room.
(9:14:28 PM) spies8stephanie: hi?
(9:15:38 PM) spies8dane: hey
(9:15:49 PM) spies8dane: so 2 questions for you
(9:16:09 PM) spies8dane: 1: do you think cinnamyn and rondak were distancing, or do you think rondak is a cit
(9:16:53 PM) spies8dane: that is a question for you stephanie
(9:17:14 PM) spies8stephanie: i was waiting for question 1
(9:17:17 PM) spies8stephanie: 2*
(9:17:25 PM) spies8dane: question 2 is this:
(9:17:29 PM) spies8stephanie: idk about 1
(9:18:28 PM) spies8dane: if we assume at least one spy bussed cinnamyn, which of the 5 (you, owen, claude, rondak, or lawrence) bussed?
(9:19:16 PM) spies8stephanie: and why do we have to assume that one spy bussed?
(9:19:21 PM) spies8dane: we don't
(9:19:23 PM) spies8stephanie: the vote was very close 5-4
(9:19:25 PM) spies8dane: i'm saying if we do
(9:19:46 PM) spies8stephanie: so i would think that no spies bussed
(9:19:58 PM) spies8dane: you think 3 spies voted for rondak/
(9:19:59 PM) spies8dane: ?
(9:20:01 PM) spies8stephanie: unless rondak was also a spy
(9:20:18 PM) spies8dane: even so, you think 3/4 voters on rondak were spies?
(9:20:25 PM) spies8dane: if he was a cit?
(9:20:25 PM) spies8stephanie: brb
(9:20:33 PM) spies8dane: rondak voters were me, chance, kiara, and hambone
(9:20:45 PM) spies8dane: mary voted chance fnar
(9:20:54 PM) spies8dane: and jasmine and cinnamyn couldn't vote
(9:24:14 PM) spies8stephanie: sry, back
(9:24:39 PM) spies8dane: 4 people voted rondak
(9:24:46 PM) spies8dane: you think 2-3 were spies?
(9:24:49 PM) spies8stephanie: it's just that the vote was so close, i dont' see why a spy would vote another spy
(9:24:59 PM) spies8dane: both were looking pretty bad
(9:25:01 PM) spies8stephanie: unless rondak was also a spy
(9:25:15 PM) spies8dane: as for why
(9:25:17 PM) spies8dane: bussing
(9:25:51 PM) spies8stephanie: bussing is in play when someone is getting voted out by a big majority
(9:26:15 PM) spies8stephanie: when you could switch the exile candidate, i dont' think bussing comes into play
(9:26:38 PM) spies8dane: i think of bussing as just a spy voting a spy
(9:26:51 PM) spies8dane: to make themself look better
(9:27:25 PM) spies8stephanie: but why vote a spy to make yourself look better, when you could vote a cit and have them exiled
(9:28:08 PM) spies8owen left the room.
(9:28:12 PM) spies8dane: the reason would be if voting that cit would make you obvious (like if it went against how you'd stated your suspicions, or not voting the spy when you'd stated that you'd been suspicious of them forever)
(9:28:38 PM) spies8stephanie: it's getting close enough to the end that having it be 4-7 would be a big advantage to having it be 3-8
(9:29:12 PM) spies8dane: alright, so who of the rondak 4 (me, hambone, kiara, and chance) do you think are spies then?
(9:29:22 PM) spies8dane: and do you think mary, who voted "clear" chance, is a spy?
(9:29:32 PM) spies8stephanie: no on mary
(9:29:46 PM) spies8stephanie: yes on all of the rondak voters
(9:29:50 PM) spies8dane: ...
(9:29:53 PM) spies8dane: all?
(9:30:05 PM) spies8dane: 4/3 spies?
(9:30:06 PM) spies8stephanie: tho e1 keeps telling me that chance is cleared
(9:30:29 PM) spies8stephanie: it could be that rondak is spy also
(9:30:40 PM) spies8dane: apparently the angel somehow knew that the devil was a cit
(9:30:45 PM) spies8stephanie: in which case it wouldn't make that much diff
(9:30:48 PM) spies8dane: like it was in her role
(9:30:55 PM) spies8dane: so of me, hambone, and kiara
(9:31:03 PM) spies8dane: what is order of suspicion, most to least
(9:31:25 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara, you, hambone
(9:31:30 PM) spies8dane: k
(9:31:37 PM) spies8dane: oh
(9:31:42 PM) spies8dane: and where would you put jasmine
(9:31:52 PM) spies8stephanie: ahead of all of you
(9:31:55 PM) spies8dane: lol
(9:31:58 PM) spies8dane: fair enough
(9:32:20 PM) spies8dane: i'm assuming worst case scenario for now (her being cit) though I suspect her as well
(9:33:19 PM) spies8stephanie: so is your list still rondak, jasmine, me?
(9:33:41 PM) spies8dane: like I said, i'm leaving jasmine out for now
(9:33:50 PM) spies8dane: i'm assuming at least one on each wagon
(9:33:53 PM) spies8dane: so right now:
(9:34:07 PM) spies8dane: rondak, kiara/hambone, lawrence/you
(9:34:20 PM) spies8stephanie: i think 1 on each wagon only makes sense if rondak is spy
(9:34:39 PM) spies8dane: which i'm working uner the assumption of
(9:35:13 PM) spies8lawrence entered the room.
(9:35:33 PM) spies8stephanie: larry!
(9:37:16 PM) spies8lawrence: Good evening Stephanie
(9:37:44 PM) spies8stephanie: how are you?
(9:42:21 PM) spies8claude left the room.
(9:44:29 PM) spies8stephanie: larry, i wanted to ask question about last exile...
(9:44:45 PM) spies8lawrence: What would this question be?
(9:45:31 PM) spies8stephanie: did chance lobby you, like he lobbied me, to change your vote to rondak?
(9:45:48 PM) spies8lawrence: No
(9:45:54 PM) spies8dane: he lobbied me
(9:45:58 PM) spies8lawrence: But I wasn't around until probably 10 minutes before Exile
(9:45:59 PM) spies8dane: only to find i was already voting him
(9:46:25 PM) spies8stephanie: and what do you think of rondak now?
(9:46:27 PM) spies8dane: he also tried to lobby mary
(9:46:32 PM) spies8dane: me or lawrence?
(9:46:38 PM) spies8stephanie: larry?
(9:46:49 PM) spies8stephanie: are you still leaning cit on rondak?
(9:47:09 PM) spies8lawrence: The Cinnamyn interactions we're strange at the end of the round
(9:47:12 PM) spies8lawrence: (In the thead)
(9:47:25 PM) spies8lawrence: I'm not entirely sure
(9:47:42 PM) spies8lawrence: The fact that he's still kind of someone who people are converging on just for lurking bugs me
(9:47:50 PM) spies8dane: -_-
(9:47:56 PM) spies8lawrence: But as Claude mentioned, Cinnamyn RE: Rondak looks like distancing
(9:49:38 PM) spies8stephanie: as claude mentioned, i didn't see that
(9:49:49 PM) spies8stephanie: was that something he posted?
(9:49:55 PM) spies8lawrence: In chat after Exile
(9:50:06 PM) spies8stephanie: ahh ok
(9:51:38 PM) spies8stephanie: i thought you were in the camp that thought rondak was the cit scapegoat alternate candidate to cinnamny
(9:51:55 PM) spies8stephanie: rethinking that?
(9:52:03 PM) spies8lawrence: Yes
(9:53:13 PM) spies8stephanie: so who are your 3 spies right now?
(9:54:28 PM) spies8lawrence: Dane OR Rondak . . . . Jasmine . . . Owen
(9:54:34 PM) spies8lawrence: Not entirely confident on much of this stuff
(9:54:44 PM) spies8lawrence: Put in order of the reads I would pursue
(9:54:55 PM) spies8dane: you ought to take jasmine out of that for now
(9:55:02 PM) spies8dane: always assume worst case scenario
(9:55:09 PM) spies8dane: and worst case is that jasmine is a cit
(9:55:15 PM) spies8stephanie: jasmine is still in my list
(9:55:31 PM) spies8stephanie: why would i take her out?
(9:55:43 PM) spies8lawrence: There's no reason to take out someone you suspect
(9:55:52 PM) spies8lawrence: Go after the others first, perhaps
(9:55:56 PM) spies8dane: because she is not a threat to us and can always be voted last
(9:56:08 PM) spies8lawrence: But no reason to say "I don't suspect Jasmine" if you do just because she doesn't have a vote.
(9:56:17 PM) spies8dane: she should not be voted out until its confirmed she is a spy by the cit/spy ratio
(9:56:28 PM) spies8dane: I didn't say not to suspect her
(9:56:33 PM) spies8dane: she is one of my suspects
(9:56:44 PM) spies8dane: i'm saying she isn't one of the top people I would focus my efforts on
(9:56:55 PM) spies8dane: since sooner or later it will be proved to us by the ratio if she is or isn't a spy
(9:57:47 PM) spies8stephanie: so who are you focusing on, dane?
(9:58:07 PM) spies8dane: rondak primarily, followed by kiara and hambone
(9:58:51 PM) spies8dane: I'm still not sure why mary threw her vote away on a crucial vote, but her actions otherwise still have me on the fence with her
(9:59:21 PM) spies8dane: If only one of kiara and hambone is a spy, and jasmine is a cit, I think the last is lawrence, then you, then owen
(9:59:30 PM) spies8stephanie: i was surprised by mary vote, she told me she was voting cinn
(9:59:50 PM) MENAGERlE entered the room.
(9:59:52 PM) spies8dane: oh
(9:59:54 PM) spies8dane: OH!
(10:00:01 PM) spies8dane: nevermind, it makes perfect sense
(10:00:08 PM) spies8stephanie: oh?
(10:00:11 PM) spies8dane: chance has to be voted at least once for his role to activate
(10:00:19 PM) spies8dane: forgot that for a minute
(10:00:25 PM) spies8dane: thats actually pretty citish then
(10:01:11 PM) spies8stephanie: perhaps, although the vote was very close
(10:02:24 PM) spies8dane: wait
(10:02:36 PM) spies8dane: chances ability does what again?
(10:04:04 PM) spies8stephanie: why exactly did jenny think you were cit?
(10:04:39 PM) spies8dane: she said it was from talking to me and how I voted
(10:04:40 PM) spies8stephanie: cause you don't have a clue what
(10:04:45 PM) spies8stephanie: s going on?
(10:05:06 PM) spies8dane: I believe it is him having immunity from exile, I wasn't sure exactly how it worked if it required him to be voted to activate
(10:05:09 PM) spies8stephanie: chance can make someone immune from esile
(10:05:09 PM) spies8dane: so you can shut the fuck up
(10:05:11 PM) spies8stephanie: exile
(10:05:32 PM) spies8dane: I generally know more of what is going on than you do, but I check for details because I don't like making mistakes
(10:05:50 PM) spies8stephanie: mmmk
(10:07:51 PM) spies8stephanie: bedtime for me -- see you guys tomorrow