Episode 9: Group Chats

[Jasmine]

Posted what I had from all of today in EPPY EIGHT's thread. Hopefully we can do this without Jenny. R.I.P girl.

[Stephanie]

(8:38:31 PM) spies8claude entered the room.
(8:38:31 PM) JinjosandJiggies entered the room.
(8:38:31 PM) spies8lawrence entered the room.
(8:38:31 PM) spies8jasmine entered the room.
(8:38:31 PM) spies8stephanie entered the room.
(8:38:48 PM) spies8stephanie: hi?
(8:39:09 PM) spies8lawrence: Time to move the Spy meeting
(8:39:13 PM) spies8lawrence: A Citizen got in here
(8:39:30 PM) spies8lawrence: Wait, was that in the wrong chat box?
(8:39:33 PM) spies8lawrence: Crap.
(8:39:48 PM) spies8stephanie: cy?
(8:39:58 PM) spies8lawrence: No, joke.
(8:40:25 PM) spies8lawrence: Even though we all know Jinjos and Jiggies are very scummy, we were not having a criminal planning session
(8:41:38 PM) spies8stephanie: so is there anything else going on in here?
(8:41:46 PM) spies8claude: Not really
(8:41:59 PM) spies8stephanie: claude?? you're really here?
(8:42:08 PM) spies8claude: That appears to be correct.
(8:42:09 PM) spies8stephanie: so tell me about your role...
(8:42:17 PM) spies8claude: What about it.
(8:42:23 PM) spies8lawrence: How did you use your role last round?
(8:42:28 PM) spies8lawrence: And how do you plan on using it this round?
(8:42:30 PM) spies8stephanie: why didn't you use it last time? and are you going to use it this time?
(8:42:43 PM) spies8lawrence: I believe I beat you, Stephanie.
(8:43:14 PM) spies8stephanie: anybody can beat me in typing competition
(8:44:15 PM) spies8jasmine: i guess i wont add anything to the discussion, or else people might think im going to vote them and not want me to have my vote back.
(8:44:17 PM) spies8jasmine: ill go mute.
(8:44:35 PM) spies8claude: Yes, being petty is a great way to endear yourself to people.
(8:44:39 PM) spies8claude: I forgot last time, honestly.
(8:44:47 PM) spies8claude: I'll be using one of the abilities this time.
(8:45:23 PM) spies8jasmine: seems so, hambone is pretty petty
(8:45:43 PM) spies8lawrence: At least in my case, that is not why I'm giving him his vote back.
(8:45:52 PM) spies8jasmine: your an exception.
(8:45:59 PM) spies8jasmine: whcih is fine.
(8:46:09 PM) spies8jasmine: but others dont have any reason but that, or have at least not expressed anything but that.
(8:46:20 PM) spies8jasmine: i hoenstly think both of us are citizens
(8:46:33 PM) spies8jasmine: because i dont suspect hambone. but i still would like people to have a reason before lynching me aside to votelessness.
(8:47:24 PM) spies8cinnamyn entered the room.
(8:47:35 PM) spies8stephanie: hey cinn
(8:47:44 PM) spies8lawrence: Good evening Cinnamyn
(8:47:48 PM) spies8cinnamyn: aye yall
(8:47:56 PM) spies8stephanie: jasmine was just complaining cause i'm voting not to give her vote back
(8:48:26 PM) spies8jasmine: And you havent expressed a reason
(8:48:28 PM) spies8jasmine: u fucking bitch
(8:48:32 PM) spies8jasmine: i love how u indirectly say shit
(8:48:36 PM) spies8jasmine: just express your thoughts
(8:48:47 PM) spies8jasmine: is my anger the problem?
(8:48:56 PM) spies8stephanie: i told lawrence this morning that since i was number 1 on jasmine's spy list, i thought i'd rather have hambone with a vote
(8:48:57 PM) spies8jasmine: the fact that i gave u my "secondary" vote last round?
(8:48:58 PM) spies8jasmine: or something else.
(8:49:03 PM) spies8stephanie: it made sense to me
(8:49:04 PM) spies8jasmine: that is a BS reason, imo.
(8:49:19 PM) spies8jasmine: the fact that i suspect u shouldnt influence if you think im more of a cit or spy
(8:49:21 PM) spies8jasmine: then hambone
(8:49:29 PM) spies8jasmine: the fact that i suspect people
(8:49:33 PM) spies8jasmine: and am actualy doing things
(8:49:36 PM) spies8jasmine: is being punished
(8:49:44 PM) spies8jasmine: against someone who activly hasnt went after more people
(8:49:50 PM) spies8jasmine: he's been firm on jenny
(8:50:05 PM) spies8jasmine: its pretty BS, imo
(8:50:05 PM) spies8lawrence: I encourave everyone to take the above line out of context.
(8:50:14 PM) spies8lawrence: And in an inappropriate manner.
(8:50:21 PM) spies8lawrence: The "he's been firm on jenny" statement.
(8:58:56 PM) spies8cinnamyn: 1 min
(9:01:10 PM) spies8stephanie: eggplant?
(9:01:13 PM) spies8stephanie: lol
(9:01:31 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i h8 eggplant
(9:01:59 PM) spies8stephanie: it just needs more garlic
(9:39:10 PM) spies8cinnamyn left the room.
(10:18:33 PM) spies8jasmine left the room.

[Chance]

spies8broderick has entered the room. 9:49 pm
spies8broderick is on your blocked list. 9:49 pm
spies8rondak has entered the room. 9:49 pm
spies8lawrence has entered the room. 9:49 pm
viewernotgert has entered the room. 9:49 pm
sorintheseeker has entered the room. 9:49 pm
spies8stephanie has entered the room. 9:49 pm
spies8chance has entered the room. 9:49 pm
spies8stephanie 9:50 pm
hi?
spies8chance 9:50 pm
hi.
spies8broderick 9:50 pm
Oh. Wasnt posted in the logs then?
Hi Stephanie
spies8lawrence 9:50 pm
It just now happened tonight
spies8broderick 9:50 pm
Oh. lol. For some reason I was thinking am
spies8stephanie 9:51 pm
chance! quick in the next 9 1/2 minutes.. can you tell us your thoughts on claude now?
spies8chance 9:51 pm
yes.
i think he's been sliding through this game unlooked at since the isaac exile and i don't think that should be happening anymore.
spies8chance 9:52 pm
i think it's quite probable that one of kiara and claude is a spy based on role alone.
spies8stephanie 9:53 pm
did you send last words to anyone?
spies8jasmine has entered the room. 9:53 pm
spies8broderick 9:53 pm
hi Jasmine
spies8lawrence 9:53 pm
Good evening Jasmine
spies8chance 9:54 pm
i'm typing them up as we speak, i have like six minutes, heh.
spies8owen has entered the room. 9:54 pm
spies8stephanie 9:54 pm
ok go for it
hi owen
spies8owen 9:54 pm
Evening.
spies8broderick 9:54 pm
Hi Owen
spies8stephanie 9:54 pm
who did you send your last words to?
spies8stephanie 9:55 pm
or would you like to tell us now?
spies8owen 9:55 pm
Didn't send anything out this time.
If you meant me. Heh.
spies8broderick 9:56 pm
You spy!!!!
;-)
spies8jasmine 9:56 pm
hello
spies8chance 9:57 pm
whoo, sent.
stephanie, cinnamyn, owen - expect a pm.
spies8mary has entered the room. 9:59 pm
spies8stephanie 10:00 pm
mary, you have no time for last words
too late :-( h
spies8broderick 10:00 pm
Hi Mary
spies8mary 10:00 pm
Hi.
spies8lawrence 10:00 pm
Good luck everyone in escaping the fury of the criminals.
spies8jasmine 10:00 pm
Mary, why are you not a spy?
spies8lawrence 10:00 pm
Also, good evening Mary.
spies8mary 10:01 pm
Sam didn't make me one.
spies8chance 10:01 pm
hey mary.
spies8jasmine 10:01 pm
I love Mary.
spies8mary 10:01 pm
I just posted all my stuff from today barely in time. I hope it's helpful.
spies8jasmine 10:02 pm
in time for what?
spies8chance 10:02 pm
I don't think he's capable of faking it, as he wears his emotions on his sleeve.

claude is a robot. all know this.
spies8mary 10:02 pm
Claude gets pissed.
spies8jasmine 10:02 pm
i didnt know imprisonment was tonight
i forgot
=-O
spies8chance 10:02 pm
yeah right.
spies8jasmine 10:02 pm
do we have to post convos now? or?
but i dont vote, so i dont think it matters
spies8stephanie 10:03 pm
just glanced at it mary, but will read in more depth, looks excellent
spies8jasmine 10:03 pm
? and i thought u all had till exile anyways
so "right in time" ?
spies8lawrence 10:03 pm
The first post for Imprisonment is up
spies8mary 10:03 pm
We're not allowed to post suspicions after 10.
spies8jasmine 10:03 pm
huh?
spies8jasmine 10:04 pm
why not?
spies8broderick 10:04 pm
This is incase she is imprisoned
spies8jasmine 10:05 pm
oh
spies8cinnamyn has entered the room. 10:05 pm
spies8chance 10:05 pm
those jerks!
dead philosoraptor my ass.
he's just sleeping.
...right?
spies8broderick 10:06 pm
That picture is pretty awesome, even if it did come from the spies.
spies8cinnamyn 10:06 pm
yes yes chance
*soothes*
spies8chance 10:06 pm
okay, good.
this chatroom is missing... kiara, dane, and hambone.
spies8mary 10:07 pm
Poor philosoraptor.
spies8broderick 10:07 pm
Hambone had company
spies8mary 10:07 pm
He looks cold.
spies8lawrence 10:08 pm
While witty, the picture is slightly depressing
spies8lawrence 10:08 pm
Are we allowed to post threatening messages to the criminals?
*images
spies8chance 10:08 pm
i don't see why not.
spies8stephanie 10:08 pm
i'm not sure i understand the picture
spies8jasmine 10:08 pm
i dont understand the dinosaur part.
spies8chance 10:08 pm
i get the jenny and awohali part, but not the cory part.
spies8stephanie 10:09 pm
obviously i'm picture impaired -- didn't understand jenny's suspect pix either
spies8jasmine 10:09 pm
the star wars boards?
spies8stephanie 10:09 pm
ya
spies8jasmine 10:09 pm
me either, gurl
spies8chance 10:09 pm
those were easy to understand though.
spies8chance 10:11 pm
haha, i annoy mary.
also this is the first imprisonment story i've been a part of.
spies8broderick 10:12 pm
congratulations Owen lol
Pics dont work for me. wont load
spies8chance 10:12 pm
the first one didn't load for me either, broderick, but the second one is a squirrel.
spies8lawrence 10:12 pm
Yes, congrats Owen
spies8stephanie 10:12 pm
that's a cute little squirrel
spies8lawrence 10:12 pm
The first picture is a cat sleeping on the window sill.
And yes, I would quite like having that squirrel as a pet.
It is very cute.
spies8broderick 10:14 pm
Dane/Hambone
spies8chance 10:15 pm
*snort*
jasmine, it's a cake, dammit.
not a pie.
god.
and mary wants to burn our fingertips. :-(
also, ewww, one thousand envelopes.
why would i do that?
i think i'm being misrepresented here.
spies8jasmine 10:16 pm
Me too. I aint this dumb
I wouldnt take out no pan if i didnt need it
=-O
spies8mary 10:16 pm
I would never burn someone.
I'm in D wing.
spies8jasmine 10:16 pm
of course not, mary
spies8chance 10:16 pm
unless you're going to whack me on the head with it later. how dare you, spymine.
spies8mary 10:16 pm
They keep the pyromaniacs in C wing.
spies8stephanie 10:18 pm
well, hambone is safe...all my jasmine pictures were not in vain
spies8rondak 10:18 pm
very kinky readings, mary
spies8chance 10:18 pm
uh oh, fire.
spies8chance 10:19 pm
mary lit the candle, jasmine hung the pan, and i made the books unstable. clearly we're all spies.
mary also opened the window. she's the spy ringleader.
spies8mary 10:19 pm
This is a good story, but nervewracking.
spies8chance 10:19 pm
the fourth spy is obviously the cat.
cat = kiara!
dun dun dun.
game over.
spies8rondak 10:19 pm
I say...squirrel!
spies8broderick 10:19 pm
mmhmm to MAry
spies8lawrence 10:19 pm
No Rondak, the squirrel is simply a third party.
spies8jasmine 10:20 pm
i hope i get out of the fire.
spies8rondak 10:20 pm
like Nita?
spies8broderick 10:20 pm
Claude. Rofl @ romance cover
spies8stephanie 10:21 pm
"The perfect mix of passion and pageantry" pageantry? rly?
spiesxtonisha (spiesXTonisha) has entered the room. 10:21 pm
spies8chance 10:21 pm
sup toni.
spiesxtonisha 10:21 pm
hey guuuurl
spies8chance 10:22 pm
i have a dick, hon.
spies8rondak 10:22 pm
so does jazz
spies8chance 10:22 pm
anyway sam just said the spies are me, mary, jasmine, and kiara.
spiesxtonisha 10:22 pm
i thot u lyked dicks
spies8chance 10:22 pm
nice, huh?
i do!
but i don't have a vagina.
spiesxtonisha 10:23 pm
ur still one of the ladies
spies8stephanie 10:23 pm
this game needs more girls
spies8chance 10:23 pm
pshhh.
i guess i'm an honorary girl then.
:-P
spiesxtonisha 10:23 pm
yes
spies8rondak 10:23 pm
are you from california?
because I heard California Gurls are somewhat unforgettable
spies8chance 10:24 pm
they're apparently undeniable, too.
undeniably what? spyish?
spies8lawrence 10:24 pm
Considering the fact that most of the women in this game are played by men, I would agree that we need more girls.
spies8rondak 10:24 pm
You know, with their daisy dukes and bikinis on top
spies8lawrence 10:24 pm
Maybe they are criminals
They are so hot, they melt popsicles
Is that hot enough to start a fire?
spies8chance 10:24 pm
whoa. oh oh oh.
spies8rondak 10:24 pm
oh oh oh
wo wo, west coast
spies8stephanie 10:25 pm
sexy fireman?
spies8rondak 10:25 pm
that cake was already carbonized by that point!
spies8jasmine 10:25 pm
HES COMING TO RESCUE ME
spies8lawrence 10:25 pm
I am starring in this Imprisonment story!
spies8chance 10:25 pm
sexy fireman?
spies8lawrence 10:25 pm
But I am a magician, not a fireman.
spies8chance 10:25 pm
where?!
also, the cake. :-(
spies8chance 10:25 pm
and wtf why would we haul mary up to the second floor.
i, at least, am not that stupid.
spies8rondak 10:26 pm
or are you?
spies8jasmine 10:26 pm
:-)
it was my idea.
spies8chance 10:26 pm
exactly, it was her idea.
spies8rondak 10:26 pm
These live updates are so cool
spies8chance 10:27 pm
notice how rondak only shows up for imprisonments.
clearly he wants to see his handiwork in action.
spies8lawrence 10:27 pm
Rondak, this is why Spies is the best game ever created.
spies8mary 10:28 pm
Actually, fencing is the greatest game ever created.
spies8chance 10:28 pm
fencing is a sport, not a game.
spies8mary 10:28 pm
You score points by stabbing the other guy with long sharp stabby things.
spies8chance 10:28 pm
like in prostitution!
...i meant to say 'acupuncture'.
that just slipped out. promise.
spies8jasmine 10:32 pm
*scratches head*
spiesxtonisha 10:32 pm
lol wtf
spies8stephanie 10:32 pm
well that's interesting, if a bit sad
spies8chance 10:32 pm
....holy fuck what?
spies8lawrence 10:32 pm
That kill is . . . interesting.
spies8broderick 10:33 pm
;-)
spies8mary 10:33 pm
Goodbye, Broderick.
spies8broderick 10:34 pm
Bye all. ;-)
spies8jasmine 10:34 pm
Bye Broderick.
spies8lawrence 10:34 pm
Yes, good bye . . . this is sad. :-(
spies8jasmine 10:34 pm
I'm surprised. :-\
spies8broderick has left the room. 10:34 pm
spiesxtonisha 10:34 pm
":
spies8chance 10:34 pm
um, i'm sorry he was a citizen, i guess.
spies8mary 10:35 pm
The last thing he said to me was "I hope it's Chance."
spies8claude 10:36 pm
I can't decide if this kill means that cinnamyn is a Spy, or, that the Spies just want to make her look bad.
spies8chance 10:36 pm
that doesn't surprise me, mary.
spies8claude 10:36 pm
Hopefully it's the former, since I took away her vote today.
spies8lawrence 10:36 pm
Yes, Claude, why was this?
spies8mary 10:36 pm
Who was she planning on voting?
spies8cinnamyn 10:36 pm
thx claude, luv u 2
spies8chance 10:36 pm
i know how it feels, cinnamyn.
:-P
spies8mary 10:36 pm
Cinnamyn, who were you going to vote?
spies8jasmine 10:36 pm
have to let more men vote than woman, i see.
spies8cinnamyn 10:36 pm
sum1 in da rolegroup
spies8jasmine 10:36 pm
sexist pigs.
spies8mary 10:37 pm
Why someone in the rolegroup?
spies8cinnamyn 10:37 pm
cuz theres obviously a spy in there
or gert wudnt have died
spies8mary 10:37 pm
Why is that?
spies8cinnamyn 10:37 pm
and the zed exile is shady as hell
spies8jasmine 10:37 pm
that is true, i dont see why gertrude would have been exiled without someone blabbing about it.
spies8lawrence 10:37 pm
Claude - Why Cinnamyn?
spies8rondak 10:38 pm
so, this week we lost both the avoider and the confronter...
spies8chance 10:38 pm
i don't know about the zed exile being shady, though, cinnamyn. virtually everyone in the group agreed we should keep kiara over zedekiah given the roleclaim.
but you know, that was a chat with like five people, so it should be postable, right?
let me go find it.
spies8mary 10:39 pm
Cinnamyn, do you think Rondak and Dane are both Cits?
spies8cinnamyn 10:39 pm
but da quickness with how they believed kiara..and switching 2 gert even tho mary, who wuz in da citgroup, sed she thot he wuz a cit, iz confusing
sorry, switchin 2 zed
i think rondak iz probly a spy
spies8cinnamyn 10:40 pm
who knowz about dane, aint had much suspishin on him really
spies8mary 10:40 pm
So why would you tunnel on people in the "role group"?
spies8cinnamyn 10:40 pm
itz not tunneling, itz playing odds
sorintheseeker 10:41 pm
g'night all have a great thursday =)
sorintheseeker has left the room. 10:41 pm
spies8cinnamyn 10:41 pm
narrowing down ur vote 2 a grup in which u kno there iz at least 1 spy iz not a bad idea
spies8mary 10:41 pm
Who is left in that group?
spies8lawrence 10:41 pm
There are what, four members of the role group left?
Claude, Chance, Kiara, Owen?
spies8cinnamyn 10:42 pm
and itz very possible that more than 1 is spy
plus mary, lawrence
spies8rondak 10:42 pm
what's owen's role?
spies8cinnamyn 10:42 pm
but i take out chance cuz i think hez cit
spies8lawrence 10:42 pm
I didn't realize Mary was involved, my apologies
Owen does not have a role, unless I am mistaken, but he was part of the group.
spies8mary 10:42 pm
Stephanie was half-in. So that splits it as
Claude, Chance, Mary, Stephanie, Kiara, Owen
spies8chance 10:42 pm
i never knew stephanie was a part of things, by the wayl.
spies8cinnamyn 10:42 pm
me neither
spies8stephanie 10:43 pm
i only knew that something was up with chance
i knew that owen and cory suddenly decided he was cit
but not why
spies8mary 10:43 pm
Hambone, Dane, Lawrence, Jasmine, Cinnamyn, Rondak
spies8stephanie 10:43 pm
and i didn't know anything about gert
spies8chance 10:43 pm
there you go, cinn.
spies8cinnamyn 10:43 pm
dont thro steph in a grup mary 2 make it bigger
spies8mary 10:44 pm
I said correctly that she was half in.
spies8chance 10:44 pm
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg&thread=1500
spies8cinnamyn 10:44 pm
but i get a firm cit read
spies8cinnamyn 10:44 pm
so it narrows down 2 kiara/claude/owen/mary
which itz very likely therez more than 1 spy
so itz a gud place 2 look
spies8stephanie 10:45 pm
half in is right, mary, but i think cinn is focusing on people who knew about gert to imprison her
spies8jasmine 10:45 pm
I'm going to go shower. Bye.
spies8jasmine has left the room. 10:45 pm
spies8mary 10:45 pm
Which group do you find scummier?
spies8mary: Hambone, Dane, Lawrence, Jasmine, Cinnamyn, Rondak
spies8mary: Claude, Chance, Mary, Stephanie, Kiara, Owen
spies8cinnamyn 10:46 pm
rolegroup, definitely
spies8mary 10:46 pm
So you think Rondak is probably a spy but you'll throw a dart at the "role group" and hope to get lucky?
spies8cinnamyn 10:47 pm
i also think kiara is probably a spy
spies8mary 10:47 pm
That doesn't make sense.
spies8cinnamyn 10:47 pm
and theres a strong chance u, owen, and claude r
spies8stephanie 10:47 pm
she might, except that claude took her dart away?
spies8chance 10:47 pm
you think all four are spies, cinn?
spies8mary 10:47 pm
Yes, but we shouldn't let her off the hook for making cases.
Like Chance exile 2.
spies8stephanie 10:48 pm
agreed
spies8chance 10:48 pm
you let brod off the hook for making cases, mary.
spies8cinnamyn 10:48 pm
no i dont chance, but up 2 3
spies8stephanie 10:48 pm
up to 3?? wow!
spies8mary 10:48 pm
I meant we should force her to still make cases.
spies8chance 10:48 pm
and i am starting to suspect claude again, so.
spies8cinnamyn 10:49 pm
who do u think iz a spy mary.?
spies8mary 10:49 pm
You, Dane, Hambone and Rondak.
spies8chance 10:49 pm
cinn, are you saying that out of kiara, mary, owen, and claude, three are spies?
spies8cinnamyn 10:49 pm
2-3
spies8mary 10:50 pm
That's ambitious.
spies8cinnamyn 10:50 pm
our constant suspishinz have led us nowhere
time 2 luk sumwhere new
viewernotgert has left the room. 10:50 pm
spies8cinnamyn 10:51 pm
if u say me, dane, hambone, rondak mary
then y wuz gertie imprizined.?
spies8mary 10:52 pm
I don't know.
spies8stephanie has left the room. 10:52 pm
spies8cinnamyn 10:52 pm
thatz wut i thot
spies8chance 10:52 pm
to play devil's advocate here, gertie could have been imprisoned because she was constantly immune from exile.
but i agree that it's much more likely the spies knew about her role.
spies8stephanie has entered the room. 10:53 pm
JinjosandJiggies has left the room. 10:53 pm
jinjosandjiggies has entered the room. 10:53 pm
spies8stephanie 10:53 pm
i hate my internet
spies8lawrence 10:54 pm
It hates you too.
JinjosandJiggies has entered the room. 10:54 pm
spies8mary has left the room. 10:54 pm
spies8chance 10:54 pm
??
spies8cinnamyn 10:54 pm
and y have all of owen, mary, claude and kiara survived imprisonment?? espeshully if the las' two apparently have rolez and the first two were citz 4 a long time
sorry but there r spiez there
spies8chance 10:55 pm
i find it very hard to get past the fact that during the episode when neither cory nor owen was immune from imprisonment, cory went over owen. i'm just saying.
also i have to wonder if the spies didn't imprison me because i'm wrong on jasmine.
spies8stephanie 10:56 pm
well it would be absolutely logical to choose cory over owen if you thought cory was doc
spies8chance 10:56 pm
and how/why would the spies have known that unless they were in the rolegroup?
spies8stephanie 10:57 pm
idk i thought the rolegroup were those who knew about you and gert
spies8cinnamyn 10:57 pm
mary ran away wen i challenged her
ha
spies8chance 10:57 pm
and cory.
spies8stephanie 10:57 pm
did they all also know about cory?
spies8chance 10:57 pm
yes.
spies8lawrence 10:57 pm
Cory had a role?
spies8chance 10:57 pm
cory was the doctor.
spies8lawrence 10:57 pm
AH
spies8claude 10:58 pm
lol
spies8cinnamyn 10:58 pm
well that only confirms my feelingz more
spies8lawrence 10:58 pm
Do we know who he saved during round 1, and is the information relevant now?
spies8chance 10:58 pm
he saved gabriel.
spies8cinnamyn 10:58 pm
oooo
spies8lawrence 10:58 pm
Disappointing.
spies8cinnamyn 10:58 pm
so y he wuz imp'd next im shure
spies8lawrence 10:59 pm
I was hoping there was a confirmed Citizen walking around.
spies8chance 10:59 pm
spies8chance 10:58 pm
something wrong?
spies8mary 10:58 pm
Hmm?
spies8chance 10:58 pm
you left the chatroom.
spies8mary 10:58 pm
I did?
I must have disconnected.

there is, lawrence. :-P
spies8mary has been invited. 10:59 pm
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spies8lawrence 10:59 pm
I meant based on the Doctor. h
spies8lawrence 11:00 pm
Anyways, I must retire for the evening.
I bid you all good night.
spies8chance 11:01 pm
night larry.
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spies8mary 11:04 pm
Cinnamyn, who's your top suspect right now?
spies8cinnamyn 11:05 pm
after claude blocked my vote and wont tell me y
and u seem 2 b protecting the rolegroup
i wud have 2 say kiara
spies8claude 11:05 pm
back
I blocked your vote because you're my top suspect atm
spies8cinnamyn 11:06 pm
y.?
spies8claude 11:07 pm
Because you have done effectively nothing all game. Even your vote on magalie had no meat to it, you just voted her and it happened to be when she got lynched and flipped Spy.
spies8mary 11:07 pm
Can you please explain your case on Kiara?
spies8cinnamyn 11:07 pm
i've done nothing???
spies8claude 11:07 pm
It was by far the vote that I feel was most likely to be a bus.
Youv'e created some forum threads
and asked a million question
questions
But..none of it ever went anywhere.
spies8cinnamyn 11:08 pm
it only went in2 how i felt about ppl and whether i thot they were cit or spy
doez that not mean n e thing.?
spies8claude 11:08 pm
I fail to see where that happened.
spies8cinnamyn 11:08 pm
haz rondak done more than me.?
jazmine.?
hambone.?
dane.?
spies8chance 11:09 pm
claude, i have a question. the time before you took away cinnamyn's vote, you controlled owen's, right?
spies8claude 11:09 pm
Well, a couple of days before
The 2 previous times I didn't do anything
E7 I just forgot
and E8 I wanted to wait until the senate was over
spies8chance 11:09 pm
i'm talking about the last time you used your role before this episode.
spies8claude 11:09 pm
plus Jenny was getting obvlynched anyway
Yeah, that was the last time
I wasn't really suspicious of Cinnamyn then.
Just has grown over the last few days.
spies8chance 11:10 pm
to the point where you're more suspicious of her than owen?
spies8cinnamyn 11:10 pm
itz taken u the las' few dayz 2 cum up wit' that i have dun nothing.?
cmon claude
spies8chance 11:10 pm
what has owen done that's made him less suspicious than cinnamyn?
i ask because the last time you used your role it was because, according to you, owen was the most suspicious person on the senate.
spies8claude 11:14 pm
Owen has points in his favor, shrug
spies8chance 11:14 pm
did owen have these points in his favor at the time you controlled his votes?
what points are these?
spies8claude 11:15 pm
The biggest reason that I used my ability on Owen was I felt that you were a Spy, and that he was protecting you by completely ignoring my case against you.
Obviously things have changed since then.
I'm still suspicious of Owen, especially considering that you didn't die today.
spies8chance 11:16 pm
so you didn't really think owen was a spy when you controlled his vote.
despite your stated reason for doing so.
spies8claude 11:16 pm
Yes, I did.
Well.
spies8claude 11:16 pm
I thought he was the most suspicious person on the Senate.
Did I think he was a Spy? Not necessarily. But I thought he was more likely to be one than any other Senate member at that time.
spies8chance 11:16 pm
okay, but you said that owen 'has points in his favor'.
what points are these and did he have them at the time you controlled his vote?
spies8claude 11:16 pm
Sure. When I talk to him, I feel like he is a Citizen.
No, he didn't then, because he was intentionally keeping information from me(because of your shortsightedness).
I knew that he was hiding something, I obviously just didn't understand what it was.
spies8stephanie 11:17 pm
who else was in senate then, claude?
spies8claude 11:17 pm
Tina, Cory, Cinnamyn, Mary.
Well, then Tina died, but w/e.
spies8chance 11:18 pm
i'll ignore the insult and focus on the fact that at least one of those points you mention, owen had going for him at the time you controlled his vote.
spies8claude 11:18 pm
Which point is that?
spies8chance 11:18 pm
'when i talk to him i feel like he is a citizen'.
spies8claude 11:18 pm
Now, sure.
At the time, no.
To be fair, I didn't talk to him much then.
Because all I wanted to talk about was you, and he obviously couldn't respond to any of it.
spies8chance 11:19 pm
but you're back to being suspicious of him since broderick was imprisoned.
spies8stephanie 11:19 pm
so now the only ones left are mary, owen and cinn
spies8claude 11:19 pm
I've always been kind of suspicious of him. Most people see 'Owen has been right a bunch of times'
I see: Owen has been right too many times.
spies8stephanie 11:19 pm
and you've switched to cinn?
spies8claude 11:19 pm
Yes.
spies8cinnamyn 11:19 pm
bcuz i haven't done n e thing this whole game
spies8claude 11:20 pm
You haven't done enough.
Neither have alot of people.
spies8chance 11:20 pm
you've always been kind of suspicious of him but when you talk to him you think he's a citizen?
spies8claude 11:20 pm
But I feel like you have pretended to participate.
spies8chance 11:20 pm
i don't think that makes any sense.
spies8cinnamyn 11:20 pm
so me not doing "enuf" iz more suspishis than other ppl.?
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spies8mary 11:20 pm
Claude, Owen was pretty much forced into his actions as Dictator.
Some of those exiles are null tells.
spies8claude 11:20 pm
Like your various 'lots of questions' threads. Those should have gone somewhere. But I don't see where they have.
spies8cinnamyn 11:20 pm
where shud they have gone.?
i weaved them in2 my suspishinz
spies8claude 11:21 pm
My views on Owen are torn. He is one of the more capable players in this game, and it is 100% possible that he bussed multiple scum buddies.
However, I can't prove that is the case.
spies8mary 11:21 pm
He voted Isaac before becoming Dictator.
spies8claude 11:21 pm
When I talk to him, it feels like he is honest and sincere. But he's a good enough player that he could be faking it.
So what?
spies8mary 11:22 pm
Then he voted Isaac as dictator partially because we pressed him into it.
But I think he was leaning that way.
spies8claude 11:22 pm
I gotta take my kids swimming
back in like 30
spies8mary 11:22 pm
Good luck.
spies8mary 11:22 pm
Chance, who were the other choices at Magalie's exile? You were one, right?
spies8chance 11:22 pm
let me think.
spies8cinnamyn 11:22 pm
i still dont understand how it only recently wud have dawned on him that i am not doing n e thing, after broderick posts a case
spies8chance 11:23 pm
i was one, yes.
spies8mary 11:23 pm
Who else?
spies8chance 11:23 pm
i don't remember off the top of my head, but i'll go look.
spies8cinnamyn 11:23 pm
rondak/gert.?
iirc
spies8mary 11:23 pm
Did Owen know about your role and Gert's role at the time?
spies8chance 11:24 pm
yeah, gertrude and rondak.
spies8mary 11:24 pm
If so, his choice was basically between Magalie and Rondak, which could easily be two Spies.
spies8chance 11:24 pm
let me think.
i believe he did, but let me make sure.
spies8cinnamyn 11:26 pm
and mary i suspect kiara still 4 her earlier ackshinz and y i voted her (prevoting allan, believing tina even tho she suspected her) combined with how she claimed her role and how quickly the rolegroup believed it
makes me think it wuz an inside job
and kiara iz paired with sum1 else in there
spies8chance 11:27 pm
we claimed to owen on the eighth or the ninth. we decided to on the eighth, but the chat is posted in our forum on the ninth, so i don't remember which.
what day was magalie exiled?
spies8cinnamyn 11:27 pm
and she haz not dun 1 thing that has made me think cit about her
spies8mary 11:27 pm
Who are Kiara's suspects?
spies8cinnamyn 11:27 pm
gud queschin
spies8chance 11:27 pm
cinnamyn - why does the fact that we believed kiara so quickly reflect badly on kiara herself?
spies8cinnamyn 11:28 pm
bcuz i think it wuz sum1 in there that probly influenced it
and it made an ez sway off on2 zed
spies8chance 11:28 pm
yes, but us believing her didn't really have anything to do with her, per se.
spies8stephanie 11:28 pm
mags was exiled july 13
spies8chance 11:29 pm
that reason is fine for suspecting people in the rolegroup along with kiara, but i don't think it flies on kiara herself.
okay, then yes. owen knew about gertie and i before magalie was exiled.
spies8cinnamyn 11:29 pm
meh
may b
spies8mary 11:30 pm
I think the Isaac trail is the best argument in favor of Owen being a Cit.
spies8mary 11:31 pm
That plus his general tone seems Cittish. But I've only talked to him a few times.
spies8chance 11:31 pm
i will agree with that statement.
spies8cinnamyn 11:31 pm
but if he voted isaac e3, he had 2 vote him again e4 or it wud have been weird
spies8chance 11:31 pm
about the isaac trail, i mean.
spies8mary 11:31 pm
His vote was solo, I believe, E3.
Which gives it less meat unless he tried to convince people to switch from Themba to Isaac.
I believe he posted a few sentences in support of his vote.
spies8chance 11:32 pm
yes, he was the only one to vote isaac episode 3.
spies8cinnamyn 11:32 pm
1 of which wuz "gut"
spies8mary 11:33 pm
So you think Owen knew Kiara's claim was coming?
spies8cinnamyn 11:33 pm
very likely
spies8chance 11:34 pm
in favor of owen being a spy - it does make sense, given that gertie and i claimed to him first, that he'd keep us around rather than imprison us off the bat.
especially since most of gertie's immunities went to him.
spies8stephanie 11:35 pm
if he were spy, he wouldn't need her immunities
spies8mary 11:35 pm
Did he lobby for them?
spies8cinnamyn 11:35 pm
if he iz a spy they were probly laffin' their azz off
spies8mary 11:35 pm
Or were they given willingly?
spies8chance 11:35 pm
stephanie, if he was a spy he had control of the immunities, which is what a spy would want.
he actually lobbied for tina/cory to be made immune most if not all of the time.
spies8mary 11:36 pm
Ok.
That's a plus.
Cinnamyn, what do you think of Dane?
You mentioned you don't know much?
spies8cinnamyn 11:37 pm
i dont think n e thing of him
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spies8chance 11:37 pm
speaking of dane, i never see him on aim.
ever.
spies8mary 11:37 pm
He must work nights.
spies8cinnamyn 11:37 pm
ive had 1 very short private chat with him
and thatz it
spies8chance 11:37 pm
i'd like to vote rondak for exile 9.
JinjosandJiggies has entered the room. 11:37 pm
spies8cinnamyn 11:37 pm
y.
spies8chance 11:38 pm
i think he's a spy, and even if he's not he's a lurker.
definitely bandwagonish.
spies8stephanie 11:38 pm
does anyone have any idea at all why jenny thought he was cit?
spies8cinnamyn 11:38 pm
i wud b ok with a rondak exile, i guess, tho i wud prefer a rolegrouper
spies8chance 11:38 pm
and forgive me for being flippant, but hey - it worked with magalie. :-P
spies8stephanie 11:38 pm
dane*
spies8chance 11:39 pm
if a rolegrouper is exiled, i'd prefer it be claude/kiara.
JinjosandJiggies has left the room. 11:39 pm
spies8cinnamyn 11:39 pm
me 2, rite now
spies8chance 11:39 pm
if enough people publically decide to vote one of them, that's where my vote will go. if not, i'll probably be voting rondak.
JinjosandJiggies has entered the room. 11:39 pm
spies8mary 11:40 pm
Why Claude?
spies8chance 11:40 pm
because out of claude/kiara, i think one almost has to be a spy based on role alone.
claude's switch to cinnamyn this episode over owen doesn't make any sense to me.
and after thinking about it, kiara really didn't have much choice in whether to say awohali had a role or not.
had she said 'yes, awohali had a role', we'd have lynched jenny, jenny would have turned up cit, and then what would kiara have done?
spies8chance 11:43 pm
i'm gonna go do a jenny. brb.

[Chance]

spies8chance 11:43 pm
i'm gonna go do a jenny. brb.
i've been pondering a kiara/claude scumpair.
spies8chance 11:45 pm
we only have kiara's word that isaac was the vote fogger.
the vote fogger messes with votes. claude messes with votes.
the vote fog ended up saving rondak, i think.
spies8mary 11:45 pm
It's possible.
But I'm not sure why the Spies would save Rondak over Isaac.
spies8cinnamyn 11:46 pm
rondaks still here aint he.?
spies8mary 11:46 pm
I guess it could have been selfish, if Isaac was the fogger.
spies8chance 11:46 pm
owen's vote for isaac in e3 might have made the spies think owen would have lynched him regardless.
spies8chance 11:47 pm
cinn, i have a question.
you've spent a lot of this chat trying to show that owen's a spy. is he more or less scummy than claude and kiara?
spies8cinnamyn 11:48 pm
id say ive spent it more trying 2 disprove owens supercit status
spies8chance 11:48 pm
isn't that the same thing?
spies8mary 11:48 pm
I'd say you've been trying to refocus people on the "role group"
spies8cinnamyn 11:49 pm
i am, mary
spies8mary 11:49 pm
Instead of the other group, which includes you and Rondak.
spies8chance 11:49 pm
i don't think that's a bad thing, mary.
spies8mary 11:49 pm
Dane and Hambone.
spies8cinnamyn 11:49 pm
i dont think hez more scummy than claude/kiara, tho, no
spies8chance 11:49 pm
mary, cinn never said she thought all the spies were in the rolegroup.
just most.
spies8stephanie 11:52 pm
well she said up to 3
i might agree with 1
or maybe even 2
but 3???
spies8chance 11:52 pm
i think two is possible, but i don't think three is very likely.
spies8cinnamyn 11:52 pm
after both awo and jenny goin' cit and the weird imp's we've had
im not limiting myself
spies8stephanie 11:53 pm
awohali just guaranteed a mis-lynch
citizens should not lie!
spies8chance 11:54 pm
i don't think awohali gets all the blame for the jenny exile, personally.
he had to be believed, after all.
spies8mary 11:54 pm
Jenny got ten votes in exiles 5, 6, 7.
spies8stephanie 11:54 pm
if i can't believe confirmed cit's dying words, then what is left?
spies8mary 11:54 pm
She had plenty of suspicion on her.
spies8chance 11:54 pm
*shrug*
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spies8stephanie 11:55 pm
we might have exiled her anyway, we didn't need his lies to insure the mis-lynch
spies8stephanie 11:56 pm
*passes meatballs*
spies8cinnamyn 11:56 pm
*eats 30*
spies8chance 11:56 pm
mmm, meatballs.
spies8mary 12:01 am
I'm vegetarian.
Is Awohali animal, vegetable or mineral?
spies8stephanie 12:01 am
animal, i think
spies8chance 12:01 am
depends on what jenny did with his brain first.
if i had to guess, vegetable.
spies8mary 12:02 am
I might try one then.
spies8stephanie 12:02 am
lol i do wonder what jenny had to say to him
spies8mary 12:02 am
As long as it's not a meat sauce.
spies8stephanie 12:02 am
no meat in the sauce
spies8mary 12:02 am
Yes, Jenny must not be very happy with him.
spies8chance 12:02 am
understatement of the century.
spies8stephanie 12:03 am
anyone talking to owen?
spies8cinnamyn 12:04 am
he aint responding 4 me
spies8chance 12:04 am
i'm not.
spies8stephanie 12:04 am
or has he gone to sleep?
at the keyboard?
spies8claude 12:05 am
back
spies8chance 12:13 am
as my final act of the night, i took the remaining twelve alive people that aren't me and sorted them into three groups. heaven and hell, lurkers, and everyone else. my top suspect in heave and hell is claude - my top suspect in lurkers is rondak - my top suspect in everyone else is jasmine. that's all from me tonight.
good night.
spies8mary 12:14 am
Bye.

[Bizarrondak]

This piece of group chat comes just before what Chance posted:

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spies8rondak entered the room. (20:38:59)
spies8lawrence entered the room. (20:38:59)
20:39:01 spies8lawrence: Claude more so than Dane
20:39:02 spies8stephanie: watch? for what?
20:39:03 Brondak (spies8rondak): hi all
20:39:07 spies8stephanie: hi b-rondak
20:39:09 spies8lawrence: As in, keep an eye on them.
20:39:13 spies8lawrence: Good eveing Rondak.
20:39:15 spies8lawrence: *evening
20:39:23 Brondak (spies8rondak): What's the situation?
20:39:30 spies8lawrence: I've been meaning to look into Claude in more depth, but I have yet to have time.
20:39:38 spies8stephanie: 1:21 minutes to imprisonment?
20:39:44 spies8lawrence: The situation is a participant in the popular television reality program "Jersey Shore."
20:39:49 spies8lawrence: Not that I would watch such riffraff.
20:40:04 spies8stephanie: i've recently become more suspicious of claude and his role
20:40:16 spies8stephanie: i don't understand why he hasn't been using it
20:40:35 spies8stephanie: he said he forgot
20:40:40 spies8stephanie: but twice in a row?
20:41:04 spies8stephanie: i live very close to jersey shore in trenton
20:41:12 spies8stephanie: so no need for me to watch
20:41:32 spies8stephanie: but i love going
20:42:15 spies8stephanie: Rondak? any last words in case you are imprisoned?
20:43:19 spies8lawrence: Stephanie
20:43:26 spies8lawrence: Why are we keeping up this charade?
20:43:28 spies8stephanie: yes?
20:43:32 spies8stephanie: what charade?
20:43:37 spies8stephanie: talking to myself?
20:43:39 Brondak (spies8rondak): Hmmm, if I get imprisoned...
20:43:43 Brondak (spies8rondak): I'll say
20:43:47 spies8lawrence: We both know that we've chosen to Imprison Claude, and Rondak is too lazy to do anything about the knowledge.
20:43:53 spies8lawrence: We might as well have a criminal chat in here!
20:43:56 Brondak (spies8rondak): that there's a bigger manipulation of citizens going on
20:43:58 spies8lawrence: Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho!
20:44:17 spies8lawrence: (That was a joke, it is acceptable to laugh.)
20:44:30 spies8stephanie: :-P
20:44:41 Brondak (spies8rondak): be glad I'm not broderick
20:44:45 Brondak (spies8rondak): or Hambone for that matter
20:45:05 spies8stephanie: cause they can't take a joke?
20:45:15 Brondak (spies8rondak): *points to nose*
20:46:08 spies8stephanie: spies8broderick: what exactly did you mean by pointing to your nose rondak?
20:46:30 spies8lawrence: Do you mean to say "not it?"
20:48:42 spies8stephanie: lol
20:49:24 spies8stephanie: gertrude was better at imitating people than i
20:49:53 spies8stephanie: dinner break -- bbl
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21:11:17 Spies8Claude (spies8claude): I did not say that I forgot twice in a row.
21:11:35 Spies8Claude (spies8claude): I forgot once, and chose not to use it the next time.
21:11:47 Spies8Claude (spies8claude): Because I wanted to wait until the Senate thing was over.
21:11:56 Spies8Claude (spies8claude): I used it today, to prevent Cinnamyn from voting anyone.
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viewernotgert entered the room. (21:40:49)
21:42:44 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Hi
21:43:05 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): I saw Gertrude log on a minute or two ago. Any one else see that? ;-)
21:43:31 viewernotgert: No.
21:43:33 viewernotgert: Didn't happen.
21:44:25 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): OK.
21:44:52 spies8lawrence: Broderick, are you seeing ghosts?
21:45:02 spies8lawrence: I am sure Claude could prescribe some medicine for that.
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21:47:15 spies8lawrence: Claude, why did you use your role on Cinnamyn?
21:47:18 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): I am not Lawrence. ;-)
21:47:23 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Hi Sam.
21:47:28 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): You used it on Cinnamyn?
21:47:42 spies8lawrence: I did not say that I forgot twice in a row.
I forgot once, and chose not to use it the next time.
Because I wanted to wait until the Senate thing was over.
I used it today, to prevent Cinnamyn from voting anyone.
21:48:17 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Where did that come from?
21:48:30 spies8lawrence: Around 9:11 in this chat
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21:48:41 spies8lawrence: Before you entered

[Stephanie]

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(10:07:15 PM) spies8hambone entered the room.
(10:07:15 PM) spies8cinnamyn: whassap
(10:07:26 PM) spies8hambone: lots of ppl here
(10:07:27 PM) spies8hambone: this is good
(10:07:37 PM) spies8lawrence: Good evening Stephanie and Cinnamyn
(10:07:37 PM) spies8stephanie: hi
(10:07:43 PM) spies8hambone: wideface
(10:07:48 PM) spies8hambone: ur face is looking awfully wide today
(10:07:52 PM) spies8dane: OY
(10:07:54 PM) spies8dane: PEOPLES
(10:07:57 PM) spies8dane: GO TO THE BURG
(10:08:03 PM) spies8dane: AND POST IN MY THREAD
(10:08:10 PM) spies8stephanie: and your chin is looking longer than ever
(10:08:11 PM) spies8dane: AND COOL ITS LIKE A STAIRCASE
(10:08:23 PM) spies8dane: DANG IT STEPHANIE YOU RUINED MY STAIR
(10:09:02 PM) spies8stephanie: :-)
(10:09:52 PM) spies8dane: who was the spy messenger again?
(10:10:09 PM) spies8kiara: you?
(10:10:19 PM) spies8dane:
(10:10:32 PM) spies8dane: where did the spy messenger go
(10:10:48 PM) spies8dane: or was savannah the only messenger and her role got delayed or something of that sort?
(10:10:59 PM) spies8dane: or did allan use a stored up role delay on her?
(10:11:26 PM) spies8kiara: you know, that actually could be a possibility? were there other messages than the one allan got that im not aware of?
(10:11:38 PM) spies8dane: I thought there were 2 messages total
(10:11:44 PM) spies8dane: wait
(10:11:51 PM) spies8dane: magalie claimed ot have gotten one
(10:11:55 PM) spies8dane: saying nita was doc, lol
(10:12:07 PM) spies8dane: so... probably don't need to worry about that
(10:12:13 PM) spies8kiara: lol no
(10:12:40 PM) spies8dane: unless allan used his stored up message role to send it to he thought was a spy to try to get spies to imprison tina who he hated -_-
(10:12:45 PM) spies8dane: and it said tina was doc, not nita
(10:12:53 PM) spies8kiara: no, he said he sent it to owen
(10:13:01 PM) spies8dane: so owen got the second message?
(10:13:11 PM) spies8dane: that's right, to prove his own role and the messenger role
(10:13:48 PM) spies8kiara: well, i never counted that because it was sent by allan. the only other message i knew of was the one to allan
(10:13:48 PM) spies8hambone: DANE
(10:13:54 PM) spies8hambone: u lied to me
(10:14:13 PM) spies8dane: FINE
(10:15:33 PM) spies8kiara: lied about what?
(10:16:20 PM) spies8hambone: he said he would answer something for me
(10:16:23 PM) spies8hambone: in a minute
(10:16:26 PM) spies8hambone: and then a minute passed
(10:16:29 PM) spies8hambone: and he didnt :-D
(10:16:54 PM) spies8kiara: ...
(10:17:12 PM) spies8hambone: u dont get it!
(10:17:22 PM) spies8hambone: me and dane are two peas in a pod, this is how we work
(10:17:38 PM) spies8kiara: ...
(10:17:53 PM) spies8rondak: is that an euphemism?
(10:18:34 PM) spies8dane: he is trying to buddy up to me
(10:18:39 PM) spies8dane: just like everyone else right now
(10:19:04 PM) viewernotgert left the room.
(10:19:09 PM) spies8kiara: ...
(10:19:27 PM) spies8claude: yeah, the part where he lists you as his #1 suspect in your thread must count as 'trying to buddy up to you'
(10:19:30 PM) spies8rondak: oh yeah, everybody missed "Rondak hits Broadway"
(10:20:06 PM) spies8hambone: dane wont answer my questions !
(10:20:08 PM) spies8hambone: this is BAD
(10:20:09 PM) spies8hambone: dane
(10:20:10 PM) spies8hambone: why!!!!
(10:20:12 PM) spies8hambone: WHYYYYY
(10:20:13 PM) spies8dane: SHUT
(10:20:14 PM) spies8dane: UP
(10:20:15 PM) spies8hambone: ahahahhahahaha
(10:20:18 PM) spies8dane: I'm CATCHING UP
(10:20:22 PM) spies8hambone: on WHAT
(10:20:23 PM) spies8dane: and I can mute you here too
(10:20:31 PM) spies8dane: on what i missed being away 2.5 days
(10:20:32 PM) spies8stephanie: what was the question hambone?
(10:20:34 PM) spies8dane: dumbass
(10:20:34 PM) spies8hambone: are u feeding ur fish?
(10:20:48 PM) spies8kiara: ...
(10:21:05 PM) spies8dane: blocked you there
(10:21:08 PM) spies8hambone: :-(
(10:21:12 PM) spies8dane: i will mute you if you keep it up in here
(10:21:32 PM) spies8hambone: so do u do this to everyone who wants to ask u questions!
(10:23:24 PM) spies8rondak: how much are we allowed to publish from our private conversations?
(10:23:32 PM) spies8dane: snippets
(10:23:39 PM) spies8dane: max of about 8 at a time
(10:23:45 PM) spies8rondak: thanks
(10:23:47 PM) spies8dane: 8 lines that is
(10:23:59 PM) spies8dane: and don't just start where one snippet ends
(10:24:07 PM) spies8dane: :-\
(10:25:46 PM) spies8hambone: OH YA
(10:25:51 PM) spies8hambone: rondaks first case
(10:25:58 PM) spies8hambone: im excited
(10:36:37 PM) spies8hambone: dane r u gonna unblock me ever
(10:38:12 PM) spies8dane: I have 2 more posts to read in the exile thread
(10:38:15 PM) spies8dane: so hold your tongue
(10:40:00 PM) spies8dane: alright
(10:40:04 PM) spies8dane: now before we get started
(10:40:18 PM) spies8dane: how many of you read sam's response to my question about the role disappearing upon use
(10:40:30 PM) spies8dane: awohali's that is
(10:40:40 PM) spies8kiara: yo
(10:40:46 PM) spies8stephanie: i did, so what?
(10:40:52 PM) spies8dane: any others?
(10:41:06 PM) spies8dane: no one read?
(10:41:18 PM) spies8kiara: pfft, men
(10:41:25 PM) spies8dane: alright
(10:41:30 PM) spies8dane: lets just ask you then stephanie
(10:41:40 PM) spies8kiara: yo = i read it
(10:41:41 PM) spies8dane: why did you believe awohali over kiara
(10:41:43 PM) spies8dane: i know
(10:41:48 PM) spies8dane: but asking you about this ispointless
(10:41:51 PM) spies8stephanie: he was confirmed cit
(10:41:52 PM) spies8kiara: ahh, kk
(10:42:17 PM) spies8rondak: brb *scribbles notes*
(10:42:21 PM) spies8rondak left the room.
(10:42:26 PM) spies8dane: there's a question i want to ask, but I can't put it into words -_-
(10:43:03 PM) spies8dane: people knew after sam's post
(10:43:05 PM) spies8kiara: we could play charades?
(10:43:18 PM) spies8dane: that either awohali was an overzealous cit or kiara was outright lying
(10:43:45 PM) spies8stephanie: huh?
(10:43:46 PM) spies8dane: no one even debated the other possibility
(10:43:48 PM) spies8dane: myself included
(10:43:58 PM) spies8lawrence: Huh?
(10:44:04 PM) spies8dane: sam posted in the questions thread
(10:44:16 PM) spies8kiara: what other possibility?
(10:44:18 PM) spies8dane: when I asked about if a one-use role, after use, disappears leaving the person as a normal cit
(10:44:21 PM) spies8dane: he said no
(10:44:30 PM) spies8lawrence: test
(10:44:32 PM) spies8dane: a doctor that can't doctor anymore would still show as doctor
(10:44:39 PM) spies8kiara: hi larry
(10:44:47 PM) spies8lawrence: Sorry, my speakers randomly cut out
(10:44:57 PM) spies8dane: meaning either Kiara lied about awohali's role
(10:45:10 PM) spies8dane: or awohali was overzealously putting in a last ditch effort to get his prime suspect lynched
(10:45:57 PM) spies8dane: and hambone
(10:46:02 PM) spies8dane: you can ask me questions
(10:46:09 PM) spies8dane: in here
(10:46:34 PM) spies8kiara: are you trying to ask why, even after sam said one-use roles dont vanish, no one considered the fact that i was telling the truth and awohali was lying?
(10:46:35 PM) spies8stephanie: and dane i have no idea what your point is
(10:46:57 PM) spies8stephanie: cause awohali was confirmed cit
(10:47:16 PM) spies8stephanie: who are we going to believe?
(10:47:16 PM) spies8dane: not ask why
(10:47:21 PM) spies8dane: because I did it myself
(10:47:32 PM) spies8dane: but it just seems odd that I never heard anyone raise the possibility
(10:47:45 PM) spies8dane: and yet we were still wrong stephanie
(10:47:49 PM) spies8dane: and btw
(10:47:56 PM) spies8dane: why does everyone have me on their spy list now?
(10:48:11 PM) spies8cinnamyn: welcum 2 my world
(10:48:12 PM) spies8dane: I thought I was "dead man walking" if jenny flipped spy
(10:48:21 PM) spies8stephanie: we weren't wrong, awohali was wrong and i hope jenny has chewed him up and spit him out
(10:48:26 PM) spies8kiara: because with jenny gone everyone has a vacancy? lol
(10:48:34 PM) spies8dane: we were wrong between the two options steph
(10:48:43 PM) spies8dane: of awohali being overzealous or kiara lying
(10:49:11 PM) spies8kiara: and i never got an apology either, all you mean people telling me im a liar :,(
(10:49:28 PM) spies8dane: hey, I tried to find a loophole so you could both be telling the truth :-P
(10:49:35 PM) spies8kiara: lol, tue
(10:49:39 PM) spies8kiara: true
(10:49:41 PM) spies8hambone: DANE u dont answer our questions
(10:49:50 PM) spies8dane: hambone, I said you could ask me questions in here
(10:49:51 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara, i'll make the same deal with you that i made with cory
(10:49:53 PM) spies8kiara: have you even asked one yet?!
(10:49:54 PM) spies8dane: AND i unblocked you
(10:50:03 PM) spies8hambone: HAVE I ASKED ONE
(10:50:06 PM) spies8hambone: i asked several
(10:50:07 PM) spies8dane: scroll up
(10:50:09 PM) spies8hambone: and got yelled at for it
(10:50:14 PM) spies8dane: fine
(10:50:15 PM) spies8dane: so ask
(10:50:16 PM) spies8hambone: in the activity
(10:50:16 PM) spies8stephanie: when you are imprisoned i will write a great big apology post in the dead thread
(10:50:29 PM) spies8hambone: OK
(10:50:31 PM) spies8hambone: Dane
(10:50:38 PM) spies8kiara: it better be good
(10:50:46 PM) spies8hambone: kiara
(10:50:47 PM) spies8dane: hambone's question or steph's apology?
(10:50:48 PM) spies8hambone: chill
(10:50:51 PM) spies8dane: speaking of which
(10:50:59 PM) spies8dane: never got an apology from you either fanny
(10:51:07 PM) spies8dane: or an explanation
(10:51:21 PM) spies8hambone: Dane as u may or not know
(10:51:24 PM) spies8kiara: ... are you telling me to chill?
(10:51:25 PM) spies8stephanie: ok dane you too can have the same deal
(10:51:26 PM) spies8hambone: YES
(10:51:34 PM) spies8dane: no steph, that wont do
(10:51:35 PM) spies8hambone: a spy is behind the Z lynch
(10:51:35 PM) spies8kiara: /hits hambone with a chair
(10:51:38 PM) spies8kiara: dont yell at me
(10:51:41 PM) spies8hambone: dane, y/n
(10:51:48 PM) spies8dane: m
(10:51:54 PM) spies8kiara: <3
(10:52:01 PM) spies8hambone: y/n
(10:52:03 PM) spies8dane: m
(10:52:05 PM) spies8hambone: dont lie to me
(10:52:10 PM) spies8hambone: if u have to choose one
(10:52:11 PM) spies8hambone: the
(10:52:12 PM) spies8hambone: then
(10:52:13 PM) spies8dane: nope
(10:52:14 PM) spies8dane: m
(10:52:18 PM) spies8hambone: god
(10:52:20 PM) spies8hambone: ok well anyway
(10:52:26 PM) spies8dane: I read your little theory
(10:52:26 PM) spies8hambone: LETS say our answer is yes cuz ur being stubborn
(10:52:30 PM) spies8dane: I had a little chuckle
(10:52:30 PM) spies8hambone: and u know where im going with this
(10:52:31 PM) spies8dane: and moved on
(10:52:39 PM) spies8hambone: do u think OWEN is a spy
(10:52:46 PM) spies8dane: possible, for now leaning no
(10:52:51 PM) spies8hambone: same
(10:52:55 PM) spies8hambone: do you think CHANCE is a spy
(10:53:05 PM) spies8dane: as far as I know, he is certified citeroni
(10:53:11 PM) spies8hambone: i agree!
(10:53:15 PM) spies8hambone: SO
(10:53:18 PM) spies8hambone: this only leaves you
(10:53:19 PM) spies8dane: m
(10:53:23 PM) spies8hambone: by the process of elimination!
(10:53:25 PM) spies8dane: nope
(10:53:28 PM) spies8hambone: yup!
(10:53:30 PM) spies8kiara: wait, how does that leave dane?
(10:53:34 PM) spies8dane: because there is no guarantee a spy was on the lynch :-)
(10:53:40 PM) spies8hambone: how is there not
(10:53:45 PM) spies8dane: how do you know there was?
(10:53:58 PM) spies8hambone: how can there not be?
(10:54:00 PM) spies8dane: if the spies see a cit was getting lynched, why would they jump on
(10:54:04 PM) spies8dane: and make themselves look worse
(10:54:15 PM) spies8dane: think with your brain hambone
(10:54:18 PM) spies8hambone: i urged everyone not to go after Z
(10:54:21 PM) spies8hambone: and ppl still did
(10:54:23 PM) spies8dane: we don't listen to you
(10:54:24 PM) spies8hambone: a spy had to be pushing that
(10:54:26 PM) spies8lawrence: Dane
(10:54:34 PM) spies8lawrence: Who are you planning on voting this round?
(10:54:39 PM) spies8kiara: han, had dane not nomed z, jenny would have. so i find your logic faulty
(10:54:44 PM) spies8kiara: ham
(10:54:53 PM) spies8dane: If a gun was put to my head, rondak
(10:55:09 PM) spies8hambone: well i put jenny behind the Z lynch
(10:55:12 PM) spies8hambone: as well as many other things
(10:55:14 PM) spies8hambone: but i was wrong
(10:55:18 PM) spies8dane: he's so far under the radar they are picking him up on sonar
(10:55:41 PM) spies8kiara: wait, hes making noise?
(10:55:47 PM) spies8dane: won't shut up
(10:55:52 PM) spies8dane: he's just under waater
(10:55:53 PM) spies8kiara: really?
(10:55:56 PM) spies8dane: so we can't hear him
(10:56:02 PM) spies8dane: did you know he has gills/
(10:56:03 PM) spies8dane: ?
(10:56:09 PM) spies8kiara: he is blue, apparently
(10:56:11 PM) spies8dane: elf magic or some such
(10:56:16 PM) spies8dane: also
(10:56:22 PM) spies8dane: what is with mary's reason for suspecting me
(10:56:23 PM) spies8dane:
Dane--leaning Spy.

Why? Antagonistic the entire game and seems to make points to clarify facts but often fails to leave his opinions. Was #5 on Alexei under curious circumstances--read the group chat log to see he and Hambone fight when the Alexei case was posted, then Dane asks about people's other suspects instead of reading the case, then logs, then comes back to accuse Stephanie, then votes Alexei instead of Stephanie for stated reasons "using bad info" plus "big wagon". Rondak vote at Magalie exile looks sketchy. Zed vote despite not particularly suspecting him looks sketchy.
(10:56:31 PM) spies8lawrence: Why Rondak over one of your other suspects, Dane?
(10:56:54 PM) spies8dane: Rondak is the one no one pays any attention to, and is least likely to slip up because he never posts
(10:57:11 PM) spies8dane: he can't contradict himself often if he doesn't post
(10:57:12 PM) spies8hambone: hes making a case now
(10:57:15 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but dane, hes making a big post.! hes participating.!!!!!!
(10:57:15 PM) spies8hambone: but i too suspect brondak
(10:57:24 PM) spies8dane: congrats
(10:57:29 PM) spies8stephanie: lol cinn
(10:57:30 PM) spies8dane: isn't this his first case all game?
(10:57:32 PM) spies8jasmine entered the room.
(10:57:34 PM) spies8hambone: im looking at u now cinnamon too
(10:57:40 PM) spies8hambone: brody dying pisses me off
(10:57:44 PM) spies8hambone: and it points right to u
(10:57:45 PM) spies8cinnamyn: yes dane
(10:57:45 PM) spies8dane: makes me happy :-)
(10:57:53 PM) spies8dane: quite happy the douche is dead
(10:57:59 PM) spies8cinnamyn: we can play wifom all day hambone
(10:58:01 PM) spies8jasmine: I hear the ticking of the clock, I'm lying here the rooms pitch dark.
(10:58:02 PM) spies8hambone: w/e
(10:58:02 PM) spies8hambone: ok
(10:58:04 PM) spies8hambone: i gotta go
(10:58:05 PM) spies8hambone: bye
(10:58:08 PM) spies8hambone left the room.
(10:58:09 PM) spies8dane: lol
(10:58:11 PM) spies8dane: anyway
(10:58:12 PM) spies8jasmine: I wonder where you are tonight. No anser on the telephoneeeee
(10:58:13 PM) spies8dane: back to this
(10:58:14 PM) spies8dane:
Dane--leaning Spy.

Why? Antagonistic the entire game and seems to make points to clarify facts but often fails to leave his opinions. Was #5 on Alexei under curious circumstances--read the group chat log to see he and Hambone fight when the Alexei case was posted, then Dane asks about people's other suspects instead of reading the case, then logs, then comes back to accuse Stephanie, then votes Alexei instead of Stephanie for stated reasons "using bad info" plus "big wagon". Rondak vote at Magalie exile looks sketchy. Zed vote despite not particularly suspecting him looks sketchy.
(10:58:21 PM) spies8dane: episode 1 republicans
(10:58:24 PM) spies8dane: please refute
(10:58:35 PM) spies8dane: that is...stephanie -_-
(10:58:40 PM) spies8kiara: lol
(10:58:42 PM) spies8dane: WHY ARE YOU ALL DEMOCRATS
(10:58:51 PM) spies8dane: how many original republicans are still alive?
(10:58:52 PM) spies8kiara: im a rep, its just that was old kiaras time
(10:58:54 PM) spies8dane:
(10:58:57 PM) spies8dane: ah
(10:58:59 PM) spies8cinnamyn: hambone, owen
(10:59:01 PM) spies8jasmine: Kiara, Yourself, Hambone, Owen, Stephanie.
(10:59:06 PM) spies8jasmine: Five?
(10:59:10 PM) spies8jasmine: 5/12.
(10:59:12 PM) spies8dane: alright, that's not too bad
(10:59:13 PM) spies8jasmine: Almost half.
(10:59:17 PM) spies8jasmine: 7-5.
(10:59:24 PM) spies8kiara: after the switch were at 6/6
(10:59:33 PM) spies8jasmine: Pretty even.
(10:59:37 PM) spies8dane: stephanie, though there be much enmity between us
(10:59:40 PM) spies8dane: can you refute this
(10:59:40 PM) spies8jasmine: Just that republicans seem to be less in the limelight
(10:59:41 PM) spies8dane:
Dane--leaning Spy.

Why? Antagonistic the entire game and seems to make points to clarify facts but often fails to leave his opinions. Was #5 on Alexei under curious circumstances--read the group chat log to see he and Hambone fight when the Alexei case was posted, then Dane asks about people's other suspects instead of reading the case, then logs, then comes back to accuse Stephanie, then votes Alexei instead of Stephanie for stated reasons "using bad info" plus "big wagon". Rondak vote at Magalie exile looks sketchy. Zed vote despite not particularly suspecting him looks sketchy.
(10:59:52 PM) spies8stephanie: is there some point in that thing you'd like me to refute?
(10:59:55 PM) spies8dane: well, the middle part
(11:00:01 PM) spies8jasmine: Seriously, it's getting pretty annoying.
(11:00:04 PM) spies8stephanie: you did vote alexei right?
(11:00:04 PM) spies8jasmine: Just ask the question
(11:00:19 PM) spies8dane: Was #5 on Alexei under curious circumstances--read the group chat log to see he and Hambone fight when the Alexei case was posted, then Dane asks about people's other suspects instead of reading the case, then logs, then comes back to accuse Stephanie, then votes Alexei instead of Stephanie for stated reasons "using bad info" plus "big wagon".
(11:00:26 PM) spies8dane: this part
(11:00:27 PM) spies8stephanie: you have accused me at some point?
(11:00:34 PM) spies8lawrence: Jasmine - If you could vote who would you vote right now?
(11:00:49 PM) spies8jasmine: Claude.
(11:00:50 PM) spies8dane: the way it went down was NOT under "curious circumstances"
(11:00:52 PM) spies8jasmine: Or Kiara
(11:00:55 PM) spies8jasmine: Not sure which.
(11:01:05 PM) spies8dane: I voted him for much more than "using bad info"
(11:01:09 PM) spies8stephanie: i wasn't around on the exile day
(11:01:15 PM) spies8dane: this was during the big chat
(11:01:16 PM) spies8stephanie: it was father's day
(11:01:16 PM) spies8jasmine: The fact that Chance turned Cit. Should make people look at Claude in more of a bad light.
(11:01:19 PM) spies8jasmine: BUt it hasn't.
(11:01:19 PM) spies8dane: you were ther
(11:01:23 PM) spies8jasmine: He had a role, he outed it to save himself.
(11:01:28 PM) spies8dane: it was when we argued for a while
(11:01:36 PM) spies8jasmine: that is suspcious.
(11:01:44 PM) spies8jasmine: that and fighting against a proven cit for more then half the game.
(11:01:47 PM) spies8dane: fine
(11:01:49 PM) spies8dane: nevermind
(11:01:51 PM) spies8lawrence: Jasmine - I agree with you that Claude is suspicious, but for other reasons
(11:01:54 PM) spies8dane: i'll wait for a better republican
(11:02:02 PM) spies8jasmine: What are your reasons?
(11:02:04 PM) spies8lawrence: In fact I am voting for him
(11:02:12 PM) spies8dane: so lawrence, why do you think i'm a spy?
(11:02:15 PM) spies8stephanie: ok, if you want to say why you voted alexei do it
(11:02:19 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't know why you did
(11:02:30 PM) spies8lawrence: The main one is this: Throughout the majority of the game, he's hidden behind the Chance vote.
(11:02:34 PM) spies8stephanie: it was a good vote
(11:02:36 PM) spies8jasmine: Yes he has.
(11:02:51 PM) spies8lawrence: He says he faked this suspicion to help Chances role, however, he has done nothing to further discussion along with it.
(11:02:58 PM) spies8jasmine: And I think him being "depressed" could easily be a stragetic move on his part. To make him not look like a spy during that point. Because
(11:02:59 PM) spies8jasmine: if you notice now
(11:03:01 PM) spies8jasmine: he has snapped out of it
(11:03:08 PM) spies8jasmine: he's wirting long ass replies to people, etc.
(11:03:12 PM) spies8lawrence: His only other two main stances were Camilla (wrong) and (Isaac) wrong.
(11:03:19 PM) spies8jasmine: Isaac was right.
(11:03:21 PM) spies8lawrence: Not Isaac
(11:03:25 PM) spies8lawrence: That was supposed to be Magalie
(11:03:28 PM) spies8jasmine: Oh, gotcha.
(11:03:29 PM) spies8lawrence: I got my dead criminals mixed up
(11:03:31 PM) spies8lawrence: I'm tired
(11:03:32 PM) spies8dane: I voted him because he wanted to vote me for not liking me, not because I was a spy, but because the citizens were better off without me. I also voted him for jumping on to your reasons for voting me which were publicly agreed to be bogus 5 minutees prior
(11:03:34 PM) spies8jasmine: Magalie was a spy too
(11:03:35 PM) spies8jasmine: though
(11:03:40 PM) spies8lawrence: He defended her
(11:03:43 PM) spies8jasmine: Oh okay
(11:03:45 PM) spies8jasmine: gotcha
(11:03:47 PM) spies8jasmine: thats true
(11:03:49 PM) spies8jasmine: overall he's suspcious
(11:03:50 PM) spies8lawrence: After Chance was proven a Citizen
(11:03:53 PM) spies8stephanie: still don'
(11:04:00 PM) spies8lawrence: His votes have been Jenny and Cinnamyn, two bandwagons
(11:04:02 PM) spies8dane: never mind
(11:04:04 PM) spies8stephanie: t think my reasons for voting you were bogus, but w/e
(11:04:11 PM) spies8dane: >.<
(11:04:19 PM) spies8lawrence: He didn't comment on Broderick's Cinnamyn case the Awohali Exile, but jumped on it now.
(11:04:31 PM) spies8dane: lawwwwwreeeeeeence
(11:04:37 PM) spies8stephanie: and jumping into the claude discussion
(11:04:44 PM) spies8lawrence: Dane -
(11:04:47 PM) spies8jasmine: I agree Lawrence
(11:04:51 PM) spies8stephanie: i keep wondering about his role and why he hasn't been using it
(11:05:04 PM) spies8stephanie: i think he's not able to use it everytime
(11:05:04 PM) spies8jasmine: I think everyone needs to read what we just discussed.
(11:05:06 PM) spies8lawrence: Right now, I won't actively push for you to be Exiled, because you aren't one of my major suspects (like Claude is).
(11:05:18 PM) spies8jasmine: Voting Claude, or at least people looking into it--is wise. imo
(11:05:22 PM) spies8lawrence: However, I believe Rondak is a scapegoat, and your pushing of him strikes me as suspicious.
(11:05:32 PM) spies8dane: what makes you think rondak is a citizen?
(11:05:39 PM) spies8cinnamyn: a scapegoat.?!?! wuz magalie a scapegoat 2.?
(11:05:43 PM) spies8lawrence: The fact that you nominated him as an alternative to Magalie one round is also suspicious.
(11:05:57 PM) spies8dane: you mean when magalie was already going up?
(11:06:04 PM) spies8lawrence: There is nothing that Rondak has done that makes me believe he is a criminal or a Citizen.
(11:06:11 PM) spies8lawrence: However, the case on him is "he does nothing."
(11:06:14 PM) spies8dane: and that doesn't strike as suspcious in itself?
(11:06:17 PM) spies8cinnamyn: like bandwagoning.?
(11:06:29 PM) spies8lawrence: In mafia games, the mafia generally push lynches on these types of players as scapegoats.
(11:06:35 PM) spies8dane: spies 7
(11:06:39 PM) spies8dane: kathie
(11:06:44 PM) spies8dane: the end
(11:07:11 PM) spies8lawrence: One example does not prove my theory wrong
(11:07:15 PM) spies8lawrence: There are exceptions to every rule
(11:07:24 PM) spies8dane: but your rule IS the exception
(11:07:25 PM) spies8lawrence: In my experience on other mafia sites
(11:07:29 PM) spies8dane: mafia LURK
(11:07:37 PM) spies8dane: thats why there is a specific policy
(11:07:40 PM) spies8dane: called LAL
(11:07:45 PM) spies8dane: I don't subscribe to it
(11:07:48 PM) spies8lawrence: The active mafia push the cases on the failing Citizens.
(11:08:01 PM) spies8lawrence: Lynch All Lurkers, I believe, is more to keep the game fun, not to catch mafia.
(11:08:02 PM) spies8dane: but when someone has gone 9 episodes without contributing or giving opinions or pushing or doing anything
(11:08:04 PM) spies8dane: something is up
(11:08:12 PM) spies8lawrence: Policy lynches are not successful scumhunting skills.
(11:08:22 PM) spies8dane: policy lynches are made policy for a reason
(11:08:28 PM) spies8dane: because otherwise mafia coast to victory
(11:08:36 PM) spies8dane: like kathie
(11:08:37 PM) spies8dane: like rondak
(11:08:44 PM) spies8jasmine: I see no real objection to a Claude exile, it should happen. :-)
(11:08:45 PM) spies8stephanie: like you?
(11:08:53 PM) spies8dane: I make cases on you my dear :-)
(11:09:07 PM) spies8stephanie: pfft
(11:09:20 PM) spies8dane: go ahead and try to say rondak has done more than me
(11:09:28 PM) spies8lawrence: If coasting under the radar works as a mafia strategy, why don't all mafia do it?
(11:09:35 PM) spies8stephanie: no i won't say that
(11:09:40 PM) spies8lawrence: Because there is a policy against it.
(11:09:41 PM) spies8dane: because people have LAL
(11:09:48 PM) spies8stephanie: but jenny did
(11:09:55 PM) spies8lawrence: Why would a mafia knowingly coast under the radar with that in place?
(11:10:05 PM) spies8dane: because if it's just 1 or 2 out of 7
(11:10:07 PM) spies8dane: they can
(11:10:08 PM) spies8stephanie: and part of the reason she was exiled was cause she never made a case
(11:10:25 PM) spies8dane: most of the masons and I wouldn't have exiled her if it wasn't for awohali
(11:10:53 PM) spies8dane: but lawrence, you don't think any spy would coast through the game?
(11:11:01 PM) spies8dane: you don't think they'd try to stay under the radar?
(11:11:05 PM) spies8stephanie: yet you keep saying it wasn't his fault?
(11:11:05 PM) spies8lawrence: I think, if it were a viable strategy, they would
(11:11:17 PM) spies8dane: when did I ever say it wasn't wholly awohali's fault?
(11:11:26 PM) spies8dane: spies7kathieeeeeee
(11:11:30 PM) spies8lawrence: However, as you have proven yourself, it is not, because people target lurkers
(11:11:33 PM) spies8dane: spies6peeeeeteeeee
(11:11:42 PM) spies8lawrence: This amounts to lurking being a nulltell
(11:11:51 PM) spies8dane: it is a nulltell TO A POINT
(11:11:54 PM) spies8dane: 9 episodes in
(11:11:56 PM) spies8dane: its a scumtell
(11:12:11 PM) spies8lawrence: Rondak is not 9 episodes in though
(11:12:14 PM) spies8lawrence: He was replaced
(11:12:15 PM) spies8dane: -_-
(11:12:20 PM) spies8dane: how many episodes ago
(11:12:29 PM) spies8dane: 5?
(11:12:30 PM) spies8dane: 6?
(11:12:34 PM) spies8lawrence: While I am not advocating lazy replacements, it makes a point on this argument.
(11:12:37 PM) spies8kiara: less than that i think
(11:13:04 PM) spies8lawrence: I want to say three, but I may be wrong.
(11:13:05 PM) JinjosandJiggies left the room.
(11:13:13 PM) spies8lawrence: Yes, it was during episode 6.
(11:13:28 PM) spies8dane: hmmm, thought it was earlier
(11:13:34 PM) JinjosandJiggies entered the room.
(11:13:35 PM) spies8dane: that is a bit more excusable
(11:13:46 PM) spies8jasmine: I'm so hungry
(11:13:48 PM) spies8jasmine: Where is hambone?
(11:13:58 PM) spies8stephanie: he was here
(11:14:01 PM) spies8jasmine: :-(
(11:15:17 PM) spies8lawrence: Dane, what do you think of Claude?
(11:15:27 PM) spies8dane: hmmmm
(11:15:30 PM) spies8jasmine: I know Cinnamyn was suspcious of Claude as well.
(11:15:45 PM) spies8jasmine: But I think more people need to look in his direction and make up their mind on him.
(11:15:47 PM) spies8jasmine: I think he's really suscpious.
(11:15:49 PM) spies8dane: Claude is the guy everybody loves to hate
(11:16:00 PM) spies8dane: i'm not sure with him
(11:16:02 PM) spies8jasmine: Do you think his "depression" coul dhave been a stragetic move, as a spy?
(11:16:08 PM) spies8jasmine: Because he seems to have snapped out of it
(11:16:11 PM) spies8kiara: brb
(11:16:22 PM) spies8jasmine: I think it was.
(11:16:29 PM) spies8jasmine: And I think his role is a spy role.
(11:17:05 PM) spies8lawrence: Dane - How is it that you have such a strong stance on someone with not a lot of discussion about them (Rondak) but a noncommital stance on someone with a relatively high level of discussion (Claude)?
(11:17:24 PM) spies8dane: because with so much on both sides of claude, its a lot of WIFOM
(11:17:26 PM) spies8kiara left the room.
(11:17:29 PM) spies8dane: and could honestly go either way
(11:17:38 PM) spies8dane: I feel more strongly about someone in hiding
(11:17:40 PM) spies8lawrence: What is there pointing town on Claude?
(11:17:47 PM) spies8dane: isaac
(11:18:07 PM) spies8stephanie: what exactly about isaac was it?
(11:18:18 PM) spies8lawrence: He voted for Isaac when he couldn't vote for Chance in episode 2
(11:18:23 PM) spies8dane: he pushed the case quite a bit, to the point that owen and mary scolded me for suspecting him
(11:18:49 PM) spies8lawrence: Where did he push the case?
(11:19:04 PM) spies8jasmine: I don't see how voting Rondak makes any since.
(11:19:11 PM) spies8jasmine: We are down to 12. 4 spies ermain.
(11:19:20 PM) spies8jasmine: and there is nothing solid on rondak, or any real reason
(11:19:30 PM) spies8dane: he pushed the case TO owen and mary I believe, he also may have had a case in the burg
(11:19:42 PM) spies8dane: there's nothing cit on rondak
(11:19:47 PM) spies8dane: there's something cit on claude
(11:19:52 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, but jenny was suspicious of rondak
(11:19:55 PM) spies8dane: claude might slip up later
(11:19:56 PM) spies8jasmine: there is more sketchyness to claude
(11:19:58 PM) spies8jasmine: then things that are cit
(11:20:00 PM) spies8dane: rondak is not going to slip up
(11:20:05 PM) spies8lawrence: There's also more scumminess to Claude than to Rondak.
(11:20:05 PM) spies8jasmine: Later? Dane
(11:20:09 PM) spies8jasmine: there isnt going to b a later.
(11:20:16 PM) spies8dane: we have 2 ml's
(11:20:16 PM) spies8jasmine: 1/3 of the remainign people are spies
(11:20:20 PM) spies8lawrence: Dane, you are voting Rondak because "if he is scum he is dangerous."
(11:20:31 PM) spies8dane: nice misinterpration as usual lawrence
(11:20:35 PM) spies8dane: first off
(11:20:44 PM) spies8dane: I said this was if there was a gun to my head
(11:20:46 PM) spies8lawrence: If he is lurking scum, he is dangerous
(11:20:50 PM) spies8dane: I still haven't even caught up to everything
(11:20:56 PM) spies8dane: since i was gone for 2.5 days
(11:20:57 PM) spies8lawrence: Do you have any specific reasons as to why Rondak in particular is lurking scum?
(11:20:58 PM) spies8dane: second off
(11:21:10 PM) spies8dane: I already gave you my reasons for rondak being scummy
(11:21:21 PM) spies8lawrence: True
(11:21:23 PM) spies8dane: you chose to ignor them or dismiss them
(11:21:31 PM) spies8lawrence: I chose to ignore them?
(11:21:35 PM) spies8lawrence: Dismiss them, maybe.
(11:21:44 PM) spies8lawrence: But we discussed them, I couldn't have ignored them.
(11:21:49 PM) spies8lawrence: My last question was misworded
(11:21:56 PM) spies8lawrence: I know what I want to ask, trying to verbalize it
(11:21:58 PM) spies8dane: you tend to do that a lot
(11:22:02 PM) spies8dane: mis word
(11:22:04 PM) spies8lawrence: When have I done that?
(11:22:09 PM) spies8lawrence: Other than just now?
(11:22:31 PM) spies8dane: lol, do you remember the conversation where me and kiara kept having to correct you because you took the most obviously wrong misinterpretatiuon of everything I said?
(11:22:35 PM) spies8dane: and then voted me on those reasons?
(11:22:39 PM) spies8dane: fun times
(11:22:40 PM) spies8dane: fun times
(11:23:11 PM) spies8lawrence: I voted you from a gut read based on what went on in that conversation plus the nomination of Rondak alongside Magalie.
(11:23:17 PM) spies8dane: mhmmm
(11:23:22 PM) spies8dane: which was also already explained
(11:23:34 PM) spies8dane: since magalie was already obviously going up
(11:23:34 PM) spies8lawrence: You said "Magalie was already going up."
(11:23:39 PM) spies8dane: and I wanted rondak up there too
(11:23:49 PM) spies8dane: since he was a SUSPECT
(11:23:49 PM) spies8lawrence: . . . . that's exactly what I'm saying.
(11:24:09 PM) spies8dane: so what about nominating a SUSPECT is SUSPICIOUS
(11:24:21 PM) spies8dane: it wasn't unplanned
(11:24:24 PM) spies8lawrence: When I believe that suspect to be a Citizen, I find it suspicious
(11:24:25 PM) spies8dane: it was publicly announced
(11:24:29 PM) spies8dane: and I gave reasons
(11:24:40 PM) spies8dane: you said you had no citizen read of him
(11:24:50 PM) spies8lawrence: Of his behavior
(11:25:00 PM) spies8lawrence: However, your behavior makes me believe he is a Citizen scapegoat
(11:25:04 PM) spies8dane: at that time
(11:25:06 PM) spies8dane: episodes ago
(11:25:10 PM) spies8dane: you had no cit read on him
(11:25:14 PM) spies8dane: I had a suspect read
(11:25:17 PM) spies8dane: and you voted me for that?
(11:25:24 PM) spies8dane: how does that logic work?
(11:25:31 PM) spies8lawrence: The gut read with that
(11:25:37 PM) spies8lawrence: Logically, if I suspect you, I don't suspect him
(11:25:46 PM) spies8dane: you said the gut read was from the conversation where you misinterpreted everything
(11:25:54 PM) spies8dane: not from my rondak nom
(11:26:05 PM) spies8lawrence: That was also from the episode where I voted you
(11:26:15 PM) spies8lawrence: It was the gut read from that conversation AND the Rondak nom.
(11:26:40 PM) spies8dane: I voted you from a gut read based on what went on in that conversation plus the nomination of Rondak alongside Magalie
(11:26:41 PM) spies8lawrence: Which was my motivation for nominating you in episode 7.
(11:26:43 PM) spies8dane: doesn't sound like it
(11:27:00 PM) spies8lawrence: . . . How does it not sound like it?
(11:27:03 PM) spies8dane: or maybe im just misinterpreting :-)
(11:27:06 PM) spies8lawrence: That's exactly what I just said.
(11:27:07 PM) spies8dane: but I don't think so
(11:27:22 PM) spies8lawrence: That was also from the episode where I voted you
It was the gut read from that conversation AND the Rondak nom.
spies8dane 11:26 pm
I voted you from a gut read based on what went on in that conversation plus the nomination of Rondak alongside Magalie
(11:27:23 PM) spies8dane: it doesn't sound like you were putting the gut read part on the rondak nom
(11:27:41 PM) spies8lawrence: I don't understand what you are saying at all
(11:28:04 PM) spies8dane: it sounds like you voted me from 1. the gut read on the convo plus 2. me nominating rondak
(11:28:15 PM) spies8lawrence: That is why I voted you
(11:28:18 PM) spies8dane: no gut read on the rondak
(11:28:30 PM) spies8dane: you nominated me BECAUSE I nominated rondak
(11:28:35 PM) spies8dane: you still haven't explained why
(11:28:37 PM) spies8lawrence: The gut read was developed independantly from the Rondak nomination
(11:28:38 PM) spies8dane: but you tried to cover up
(11:28:40 PM) spies8dane: and backtrack
(11:28:46 PM) spies8dane: and say it was a gut read for that too
(11:28:53 PM) spies8dane: but you originally didn't
(11:28:59 PM) spies8lawrence: Serious question: Are you drunk?
(11:29:00 PM) spies8dane: is what I am saying
(11:29:02 PM) spies8dane: lol
(11:29:06 PM) spies8dane: i'm talking logically
(11:29:19 PM) spies8lawrence: Does anyone else see where I covered up and backtracked?
(11:29:20 PM) spies8dane: there is a hole in your thought process
(11:29:29 PM) spies8dane: why you voted me for nominating rondak
(11:29:41 PM) spies8lawrence: I don't see it
(11:29:43 PM) spies8dane: who at that time
(11:29:48 PM) spies8dane: you didn't have a read on either way
(11:29:53 PM) spies8lawrence: I voted you for a gut read and the fact that you nominated rondak
(11:30:04 PM) spies8dane: but you didn't have a cit read on rondak
(11:30:09 PM) spies8dane: so why was that suspicious to you?
(11:30:10 PM) spies8lawrence: That has always been my motivation for doing so
(11:30:23 PM) spies8dane: SO WHY WAS THAT SUSPICIOUS TO YOU IF YOU DIDN"T HAVE A CIT READ ON HIM
(11:30:31 PM) spies8lawrence: HOORAY FOR CAPS LOCK
(11:30:41 PM) spies8lawrence: When did I say I didn't have a Cit read on him?
(11:30:42 PM) spies8dane: ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION YOUVE BEEN AVOIDING FOR 5 MINUTES
(11:30:49 PM) spies8dane: un momento
(11:30:50 PM) spies8lawrence: Tell me that
(11:30:52 PM) spies8lawrence: Tomorrow
(11:30:52 PM) spies8dane: and I'll grab the quote :-D
(11:30:55 PM) spies8dane: hell no
(11:30:58 PM) spies8dane: sit right here
(11:31:03 PM) spies8dane: because its in this conversation
(11:31:05 PM) spies8lawrence: I know which quote your going to grab
(11:31:08 PM) spies8dane: lol
(11:31:09 PM) spies8lawrence: And its a misrepresentation
(11:31:11 PM) spies8lawrence: :-D
(11:31:14 PM) spies8dane: ROFL
(11:31:17 PM) spies8dane: just a moment :-D
(11:31:55 PM) spies8lawrence: I said something about Rondak's behavior
(11:32:01 PM) spies8lawrence: Not giving me a cit read nor a criminal read
(11:32:04 PM) spies8dane: There is nothing that Rondak has done that makes me believe he is a criminal or a Citizen.
(11:32:16 PM) spies8dane: you
(11:32:17 PM) spies8dane: had
(11:32:17 PM) spies8dane: no
(11:32:18 PM) spies8dane: cit
(11:32:19 PM) spies8dane: read
(11:32:25 PM) spies8lawrence: Later I said that your behavior towards him made me believe that he was a Citizen scapegoat
(11:32:34 PM) spies8dane: you said that referring to THIS episode
(11:32:37 PM) spies8lawrence: Which is true both of the Rondak nomination
(11:32:38 PM) spies8dane: not that one
(11:32:44 PM) spies8lawrence: And this episode
(11:32:48 PM) spies8dane: nope
(11:32:54 PM) spies8dane: you were only talking about this episode at that time
(11:32:56 PM) spies8lawrence: It follows quite logically
(11:32:59 PM) spies8dane: nope
(11:33:07 PM) spies8lawrence: If I suspected you that episode, that I would not suspect Rondak that episode
(11:33:13 PM) spies8dane: we hadn't discussed the past nomination at that time
(11:33:21 PM) spies8dane: we were discussing my current vote of him
(11:33:25 PM) spies8dane: which by the way
(11:33:31 PM) spies8dane: hasn't even happened yet
(11:33:38 PM) spies8dane: so to summarize
(11:33:42 PM) spies8dane: one, i'm right :-D
(11:33:58 PM) spies8dane: two, half your reason for voting me when you did is false
(11:34:05 PM) spies8lawrence: Your wrong
(11:34:07 PM) spies8dane: nope
(11:34:08 PM) spies8dane: :-D
(11:34:12 PM) spies8lawrence: But time is short and so is my patience
(11:34:15 PM) spies8dane: lol
(11:34:19 PM) spies8dane: run away
(11:34:32 PM) spies8dane: or resort to more drunk comments
(11:34:34 PM) spies8dane: either way
(11:34:36 PM) spies8lawrence: So when the alcohol/fatigue/whatever is clouding your logic wears off, I will be happy to calmly explain this to you
(11:34:39 PM) spies8dane: LMAO
(11:34:40 PM) spies8dane: called it
(11:34:41 PM) spies8lawrence: Good night
(11:34:55 PM) spies8lawrence left the room.
(11:35:03 PM) spies8dane: so would anyone like to comment?
(11:35:19 PM) spies8dane: ...
(11:35:29 PM) spies8stephanie: nty
(11:35:35 PM) spies8dane: fine, simple question
(11:35:46 PM) spies8dane: was my point valid or invalid
(11:35:52 PM) spies8dane: the point being
(11:36:17 PM) spies8dane: that at the time he voted me, he said it was because he thought it was suspicious that I nominated rondak, who I found suspicious
(11:36:25 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i thot lawrence wuz in the wrong about lurking, but i lost yall after that lmbo
(11:36:27 PM) spies8dane: while he himself had no read on rondak at all
(11:36:54 PM) spies8cinnamyn: hmm
(11:36:54 PM) spies8dane: was I correct in saying that?
(11:37:06 PM) spies8cinnamyn: y did he find it suspishis.?
(11:37:11 PM) spies8cinnamyn: did he say.?
(11:37:20 PM) spies8dane: thats my point
(11:37:24 PM) spies8dane: he didn't have a reason
(11:37:29 PM) spies8cinnamyn: o
(11:37:31 PM) spies8cinnamyn: lmbo
(11:37:34 PM) spies8stephanie: sry, when i said nty, i meant no thank you, i do not care to comment
(11:37:42 PM) spies8dane: thats ok, i'm talking to cinnamyn now :-)
(11:37:51 PM) spies8stephanie: oh good
(11:37:58 PM) spies8dane: I shouldn't have expected you to actually be useful :-)
(11:38:16 PM) spies8cinnamyn: regardless, i still think rondak iz a gud vote, may b lawrence iz protecting him
(11:38:21 PM) spies8dane: that could be
(11:38:33 PM) spies8dane: I'd like to update my list
(11:38:39 PM) spies8dane: but at this point it would look like an omgus
(11:38:40 PM) spies8dane: brb
(11:39:10 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i sed the same thing about claude, but then decided fuck it
(11:39:14 PM) spies8cinnamyn: if i suspect him i suspect him
(11:42:19 PM) spies8dane: alright, i'm going to head to bed
(11:42:30 PM) spies8dane: satisfied in my logical victory
(11:42:31 PM) spies8dane: :-D
(11:42:35 PM) spies8cinnamyn: lmbo.! gnite boo
(11:42:38 PM) spies8stephanie: gn
(11:42:42 PM) spies8dane: and that I called his exit comment before he could say it :-D
(11:42:43 PM) spies8dane: night
(11:42:50 PM) spies8stephanie: rondak never posted his case?
(11:42:58 PM) spies8dane: nope :-)
(11:43:01 PM) spies8cinnamyn: im not holding my breath
(11:43:04 PM) spies8stephanie: lol
(11:43:13 PM) spies8dane: sadly, this reminds me of zed
(11:43:27 PM) spies8stephanie: it does
(11:43:44 PM) spies8dane: was old rondak going to post a big case but never got around to it as well?
(11:43:51 PM) spies8dane: no
(11:43:51 PM) spies8dane: nm
(11:43:54 PM) spies8dane: must go to bed
(11:43:55 PM) spies8dane: lol
(11:43:56 PM) spies8dane: night
(11:43:58 PM) spies8stephanie: gn
(11:44:04 PM) spies8dane left the room.
(11:44:29 PM) spies8jasmine left the room.
(11:44:30 PM) spies8stephanie: it's odd that he is so quick to quote history from past spies games
(11:44:44 PM) spies8stephanie: but can't manage to remember anything about this one
(11:45:06 PM) spies8cinnamyn left the room.

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spies8claude has entered the room. 6:21 pm
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spies8chance 6:22 pm
hi.
spies8claude 6:22 pm
Eh. Jenny trusted you, and she seemed to be good at her 'finding citizens' thing.
So that's something.
I'm not really sure how far that'll get you.
spies8dane 6:22 pm
i asked
if I was in your prospective 4-person spy team
that we are posting in my spy team thread
spies8claude 6:23 pm
I don't believe that I've posted one of those?
spies8dane 6:23 pm
thats my point
please do so
before exile
spies8claude 6:24 pm
It probably won't happen.
spies8dane 6:24 pm
i want records of everyones 4 spy choices
spies8claude 6:24 pm
I'm not a fan of scumlists.
spies8dane 6:24 pm
...
fine
were you in the chat last night?
when me and lawrence went at it?
spies8claude 6:24 pm
I might have been in the chat room, but I wasn't present.
spies8dane 6:24 pm
did you get to read it?
or read my thread?
spies8chance 6:25 pm
claude, are you currently voting cinnamyn?
spies8dane 6:26 pm
normally I'd complain about you butting in line
but I know you have to go soon
spies8chance 6:26 pm
actually what i was going to got canceled.
spies8dane 6:26 pm
oh
then wait your turn bitch
:-D
spies8chance 6:26 pm
:-P
spies8claude 6:27 pm
Yeah, I am.
spies8dane 6:27 pm
oy oy, back to my question first :-(
spies8claude 6:27 pm
I could probably vote for Rondak though, he seems like scum either way.
spies8dane 6:28 pm
I need people's opinion on if I'm right about lawrence or just nitpicking
spies8chance 6:28 pm
claude, are you at all suspicious of rondak?
sorry, ninja.
right now i'd much prefer a rondak lynch over cinnamyn.
spies8claude 6:28 pm
I don't know Dane, I'd have to read it.
spies8dane 6:28 pm
you know what's funny?
I was obviously concerned when I appeared on basically everyone's spylists
so I investigated
spies8chance 6:29 pm
also, kiara just said something interesting.
spies8claude 6:29 pm
That's not to imply that I won't read it, I'm willing to do so.
spies8dane 6:29 pm
and not one person had the same reason as any one else
spies8chance 6:29 pm
spies8kiara 6:27 pm
if it was anyone other than cinn he was targeting id probably feel better about lynching him before her. but her record is just a wagony, and shes been doing it most the game, whereas brondak had only been doing it since he replaced.
spies8claude 6:29 pm
Just saying that I haven't done so now.
spies8dane 6:29 pm
gotcha claude
it's all good
spies8chance 6:29 pm
this is in response to me saying rondak has bandwagoned all game.
spies8dane 6:29 pm
i'm not pushing lawrence yet anyway
spies8claude 6:29 pm
I can't figure out Kiara.
spies8chance 6:29 pm
cinnamyn has not been on the exile several times. i don't see how her record is 'just as scummy'.
she's gone from saying rondak is her #2 after cinnamyn to defending him to me.
spies8dane 6:30 pm
cinnamyn did float to awohali and jenny
spies8dane 6:30 pm
espoused some ideas that had already gone around
spies8chance 6:30 pm
i can hardly find her suspicious for the awohali exile. i suspected him myself.
and /everyone/ but me floated to the jenny exile.
spies8claude 6:30 pm
Like, it just doesn't make sense that she would have claimed extra guesses for her ability, and have to make up an ability to explain those extra guesses, AND have the foresight to include the fact that she could guess 'neither', which apparently only relates to one person in the game.
spies8chance 6:31 pm
which is actually a thread i'm going to put up later.
that's one piece of information we do have - every spy was on the jenny wagon.
but back to this.
spies8claude 6:31 pm
But it really, really bugs me that people with roles started dying as soon as she was let into the group
Of course, that could just be someone else setting her up.
I dunno, I've decided that I hate chat based mafia, heh.
spies8dane 6:31 pm
i have decided
odds are there was a mole in the "angels"
or their associates
whatever
spies8claude 6:32 pm
Probably
But it's either owen or kiara.
spies8dane 6:32 pm
and i've decided its between owen, claude, or kiara
there are some valid points against owen
spies8dane 6:32 pm
some valid about you claude
spies8chance 6:33 pm
kiara is very well informed about cinnamyn's voting record.
spies8dane 6:33 pm
and some valid against kiara
and both you and kiara have used your role to give you some cit points
but besides the alexei exile, owen hasn't really earned his keep
spies8chance 6:34 pm
something i'm going to bring up in the jenny thread later, but kiara really had no choice regarding awohali.
spies8dane 6:34 pm
I know
I already talked to mary about that
spies8claude 6:34 pm
Awohali is not a point for or against Kiara
spies8dane 6:34 pm
that's why I wasn't talking about awohali
spies8claude 6:34 pm
She was going to handle that situation the same way no matter what her alignment is
spies8dane 6:35 pm
anyway, gotta go for a bit
but claude, please change to ronak
rondak
spies8dane has left the room. 6:35 pm
spies8claude 6:36 pm
I feel like there is alot more evidence against cinnamyn
especially with broderick dying
spies8chance 6:36 pm
you don't think it could be a frame?
spies8claude 6:36 pm
It's possible
spies8chance 6:36 pm
spies consist of a third of the burg right now.
mislynches are insanely easy.
spies8claude 6:37 pm
But at the same time like, when magalie was given her vote back, that looked like a frame too.
And it wasn't.
spies8chance 6:37 pm
it's wifom either way but i don't discount the possibility.
and the fact that rondak is pushing cinnamyn makes me think she's more cit-like.
spies8claude 6:37 pm
See, I read that as more likely to be a bus.
I dunno, I guess Rondak seems like scum in either case, heh.
spies8chance 6:38 pm
why bus cinnamyn? she didn't seem likely to be exiled until broderick was imprisoned.
spies8claude 6:38 pm
She seems likely now.
It doesn't seem like Rondak really looked at her until other peopel were doing so AND he was under suspicion himself.
spies8chance 6:38 pm
uh huh, and he didn't post his case until after cinnamyn was likely.
spies8chance 6:39 pm
the thread for his case has been up for days.
yet he decides to post it after cinnamyn is suspected, and it just happens to be on her?
spies8claude 6:40 pm
There is a decent possibility that they are both Spies. But like, if we lynch Rondak first, I think it becomes harder to lynch Cinnamyn, because she has 'A Spy went after me' as a point in her favor.
If we lynch Cinnamyn first, especially if she flips Spy, Rondak is pretty doomed.
spies8chance 6:41 pm
and if cinnamyn flips cit?
we've lost another exile.
spies8claude 6:41 pm
That's part of the game, shrug. Anyone COULD be a citizen.
spies8chance 6:41 pm
we only have two left, right now.
spies8claude 6:41 pm
I don't feel like there is much chance of her flipping Citizen.
spies8chance 6:41 pm
i think we need to take out the more likely spy, and that's rondak.
spies8claude 6:42 pm
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree there.
spies8claude 6:47 pm
blah
I'll think about it.
spies8chance 6:48 pm
heh.

[Chance]

spies8claude 6:47 pm
blah
I'll think about it.
spies8chance 6:48 pm
heh.
spies8claude 6:49 pm
I see the merit in what you're saying.
Rondak's 'wtf do you want from me' post to you felt really over the top to me, also.
spies8chance 6:51 pm
yes it did.
spies8chance 6:52 pm
about the only thing that gives me pause about a rondak exile is a meta reason.
spies8claude 6:52 pm
Hmm?
spies8chance 6:54 pm
i don't recall a spy ever needing replacement in spies history.
first time for everything, i guess.
spies8claude 6:54 pm
Ah, heh.
If anything, the fact that he replaced in and really just continued lurking seems like a point in favor of him being a Spy, to me.
spies8chance 6:55 pm
i agree.
spies8mary has entered the room. 7:05 pm
spies8mary 7:06 pm
Hi.
spies8claude 7:06 pm
Evening Mary.
spies8chance 7:06 pm
hi mary.

[Mary]

[21:08] spies8stephanie: well at least we were right about cinnamyn
[21:08] spies8lawrence: Yes
[21:09] spies8stephanie: i must admit i wasn't feeling that good about my vote
[21:09] spies8lawrence: And at this point, I don't think the reward the criminals received will do much damage
[21:09] spies8claude: Maybe not.
[21:09] spies8claude: I wanted to ask Sam something
[21:09] gingercocktail: Can I ask what was the challenge about?
[21:09] spies8claude: But he left already. :-(
[21:09] gingercocktail: For the people to have their power to vote again?
[21:09] gingercocktail: =-O
[21:10] spies8lawrence: I am intrigued . . . who accused me?
[21:10] spies8claude: They're probably not going to tell you heh.
[21:10] spies8stephanie: and when you weren't up for exile?
[21:10] spies8chance: it doesn't clear rondak of being a spy, in any case.
[21:10] spies8chance: and on that note, i'm going to bed before i chuck my computer across the room cause of lag.
[21:10] JinjosandJiggies: No Ginger; it was for immunities for the citizens, and role investigations for the spies.
[21:10] spies8lawrence: It wasn't to try to get me exiled, it was just to send a signal that someone knows who I am
[21:11] gingercocktail: I see.
[21:11] spies8chance: good night.
[21:11] spies8lawrence: Also to make me paranoid
[21:11] gingercocktail: So the Spies are safe.
[21:11] spies8lawrence: It worked
[21:11] gingercocktail: And one of the Citizens will go.
[21:11] spies8lawrence: Not neccessarily "safe," they just learn a little extra information
[21:11] gingercocktail: Hmm.
[21:11] gingercocktail: But if they are spies they don't need info.
[21:11] gingercocktail: Unless there's a third party like NIta right?
[21:11] spies8chance: has left the chat
[21:11] spies8lawrence: The info is about Citizens who have roles
[21:12] gingercocktail: I see.
[21:12] spies8lawrence: Take, for example, Kiara
[21:12] gingercocktail: Kiara is so INV.
[21:12] spies8lawrence: She has a role that can let her learn if dead players had roles or not
[21:12] spies8lawrence: Her role is public knowlege
[21:12] gingercocktail: Hmm.
[21:12] spies8lawrence: However, it is smart to keep roles hidden
[21:12] spies8lawrence: Though at this point in the game, I bet all of them are out by now
[21:12] gingercocktail: Yeah.
[21:12] gingercocktail: So at this point people know who is a spy and what not?
[21:13] gingercocktail: I was SUPER shocked to see MagalieGoddess was a Spy.
[21:13] gingercocktail: She was like the HBIC.
[21:13] spies8claude: HBIC?
[21:13] spies8lawrence: In my home, I can actually hear the crickets chirping
[21:13] spies8claude: Head Bitch in Charge?
[21:13] gingercocktail: Duh.
[21:13] spies8lawrence: So when a comment like that is said, and there is an awkward silence, it adds to the humor
[21:13] gingercocktail: She was a goddess that didn't give a shit about people.
[21:13] spies8claude: ...
[21:14] spies8claude: So you're Magalie, then?
[21:14] gingercocktail: Not really.
[21:14] spies8lawrence: Not really?
[21:14] gingercocktail: I am Savannah's friend.
[21:14] gingercocktail: This is my first time reading a Spies game.
[21:14] spies8lawrence: Explains it
[21:14] JinjosandJiggies: meanwhile
[21:14] spies8lawrence: A Spies game is a lot different than a Survivor game ginger
[21:14] JinjosandJiggies: I am actually from spies 79, when Sam is just a head in a jar
[21:14] gingercocktail: I knoww. I'm interested in learning so I read when I can.
[21:14] JinjosandJiggies: asking for help plox
[21:14] spies8claude: Yeah. If only the 20ish survivor players in this game had figured that out before signing up.
[21:15] gingercocktail: lmao.
[21:15] spies8lawrence: It's interesting, seeing survivor players adapt
[21:15] spies8lawrence: Some do well
[21:15] spies8claude: Or not adept and get mislynched..
[21:15] gingercocktail: I'm good at Survivor.
[21:15] gingercocktail: Really good.
[21:15] spies8lawrence: Others fail, but it adds variety to the game
[21:15] gingercocktail: Social/Strategic/Challenge Whore.
[21:15] spies8lawrence: Generally if you are great at survivor, you fail at mafia
[21:15] gingercocktail: Dunno if it would translate to such a game.
[21:15] spies8claude: I'm pretty sure that..
[21:15] spies8claude: yeah what Lawrence just said.
[21:15] spies8lawrence: If I wasn't short on time
[21:15] gingercocktail: Then that means I would suck.
[21:15] gingercocktail: I can be VERY OTTN5
[21:15] spies8lawrence: I would host chat mafia right now to prove things
[21:15] gingercocktail: when people preassure me.
[21:16] gingercocktail: I read people well usually.
[21:16] spies8lawrence: But we probably don't have enough people
[21:16] spies8claude: OTTN5?
[21:16] gingercocktail: And rarely blindsided in games.
[21:16] spies8lawrence: Over The Top Neutral 5
[21:16] gingercocktail: I always have that good vibe
[21:16] gingercocktail: NEGATIVE
[21:16] gingercocktail: ;-)
[21:16] spies8lawrence: Negative, sorry
[21:16] spies8lawrence: It's an edgic rating, used to evaluate how the editors of reality shows portray their contestants
[21:16] gingercocktail: yea. Lawrence you seem to know a lot.
[21:16] gingercocktail: :-D
[21:16] spies8lawrence: A standout player would be CPP5
[21:17] spies8lawrence: Complex Personality Positive 5
[21:17] gingercocktail: I've been giving edgic ratings to player.
[21:17] gingercocktail: According to wHAT i READ.
[21:17] spies8lawrence: The higher the number, the better you are.
[21:17] gingercocktail: in this game.
[21:17] gingercocktail: lmao.
[21:17] spies8lawrence: Other ratings are UTR, under the radar.
[21:17] spies8lawrence: INV, invisible
[21:17] gingercocktail: Kiara is so INV to me.
[21:17] spies8lawrence: And there are others, but I don't remember them.
[21:17] gingercocktail: Same for Jenny.
[21:17] JinjosandJiggies: jenny got exiled.
[21:17] gingercocktail: I heard.
[21:17] spies8lawrence: (I am just saying, not all Survivor players fail at mafia)
[21:17] gingercocktail: She was boring.
[21:18] gingercocktail: I'm GLAD Tina is gone.
[21:18] gingercocktail: She's a despicable bitch.
[21:18] gingercocktail: Hated her so much.
[21:18] gingercocktail: Nita was my top favorite once Savannah left.
[21:18] gingercocktail: So shocked to see her gone.
[21:19] spies8lawrence: So
[21:19] spies8lawrence: Kiara/Dane/Lawrence/Owen/Rondak/Chance/Stephanie/Claude/Jasmine/Hambone/Mary left
[21:19] spies8lawrence: Eleven of us, three being criminals
[21:19] gingercocktail: I like almost everyone left.
[21:19] spies8claude: We'll probably lynch Rondak next.
[21:19] gingercocktail: Who is rondak.
[21:20] spies8mary: He slays dragons.
[21:20] spies8mary: Imaginary ones.
[21:20] gingercocktail: god hes so INV.
[21:20] spies8claude: The way he and Cinnamyn went at each other at the last minute seems like 'Super #1 Bus Goooooooooooooooo!'
[21:20] spies8lawrence: . . . which is pretty much why people are suspicious of each other
[21:20] gingercocktail: I love Jasmine.
[21:20] gingercocktail: Mary
[21:20] gingercocktail: Dislike Dane
[21:20] spies8lawrence: We all do
[21:20] gingercocktail: lmao.
[21:20] gingercocktail: Stephanie seems cuntish to me.
[21:20] spies8claude: Dane had one friend.
[21:20] spies8mary: Gingercocktail is a sexy name.
[21:20] spies8mary: You should be on tv.
[21:20] gingercocktail: So I have a mild dislike for her.
[21:20] spies8claude: But we exiled her.
[21:20] gingercocktail: omg.
[21:20] gingercocktail: ty.
[21:21] gingercocktail: Who was Danes friend.
[21:21] spies8claude: Jenny :-P
[21:21] spies8mary: Dane and Hambone are lovers.
[21:21] JinjosandJiggies: well, blame the spies; the spies didn't want her. see ginger, what spies is is a battle between an informed minority and an uninformed majority, both trying to eliminate each other. the spies do this by imprisoning players such as Gabriel and Nita, and by avoiding getting exiled at exile.
[21:21] gingercocktail: rly.
[21:21] JinjosandJiggies: and the spies win when they have an equal number to the citizens with votes or majority.
[21:21] gingercocktail: Nita was a strong contender to go all the way from my point of view.
[21:21] gingercocktail: But I thought she was SO strong that she would eventually be booted.
[21:21] JinjosandJiggies: And she was; via imprisonment by the spies.
[21:22] gingercocktail: I'm like the spies will so boot her.
[21:22] spies8claude: Sigh..why are we on break a gain
[21:22] gingercocktail: I figured the Spies would boot her asap.
[21:22] spies8claude: again
[21:22] spies8claude: this game has too many breaks.
[21:22] gingercocktail: Claude aren't you that hated guy.
[21:22] gingercocktail: Or at least int he early stages.
[21:22] spies8lawrence: Ginger - social play is not what determines who stays and who goes
[21:22] spies8lawrence: Activity helps
[21:23] gingercocktail: Hmm.
[21:23] spies8lawrence: But this game is more of a logic puzzle than a popularity contest
[21:23] gingercocktail: I'm good at the social.
[21:23] gingercocktail: :-)
[21:23] spies8claude: That's why survivor players fail at mafia!
[21:23] spies8claude: It's not about popularity.
[21:23] spies8lawrence: There are a handful of players who are all linked together from the beginning of the game
[21:23] gingercocktail: It's about smart.
[21:23] spies8lawrence: And are working to not get caught
[21:23] gingercocktail: orly.
[21:23] gingercocktail: Tell me MOAR
[21:23] spies8lawrence: The goal is to find these people
[21:23] JinjosandJiggies: those players are the spies
[21:23] gingercocktail: oh the spies
[21:23] gingercocktail: duh
[21:23] gingercocktail: So they know who each other are?
[21:23] JinjosandJiggies: yes
[21:23] spies8claude: yeah
[21:23] spies8lawrence: Looking for players who are trying to not get caught is the basis of scumhunting (searching for spies) 101.
[21:24] spies8claude: I played a mafia game once where the spies didn't know each other at first
[21:24] spies8claude: what a luls-fest that was.
[21:24] spies8lawrence: That's called Spies 5
[21:24] JinjosandJiggies: Claude: That'd have to suck for the spies.
[21:24] gingercocktail: lol.
[21:24] spies8lawrence: Spies 5 used that twist
[21:24] spies8lawrence: Citizens won
[21:24] spies8lawrence: Imagine that
[21:24] gingercocktail: This game is so intriguing.
[21:24] JinjosandJiggies: It's a terrible twist imo.
[21:24] spies8lawrence: I agree
[21:24] gingercocktail: I don't totally understand yet
[21:24] spies8lawrence: Ginger, think about it like this as well.
[21:25] gingercocktail: Themba was so annoying.
[21:25] gingercocktail: Glad her skank black ass is gone.
[21:25] spies8lawrence: The majority of us are trying to find Spies. The Spies are trying to blend in with the Citizens trying to find Spies, and act like they are looking for Spies. We are trying to catch the imposters.
[21:25] spies8lawrence: Have you ever played The Mole?
[21:25] gingercocktail: Yess.
[21:25] gingercocktail: But it's so hard to play The Mole online.
[21:25] spies8lawrence: Think of it like seven Moles.
[21:25] spies8lawrence: But not as many challenges
[21:25] spies8claude: I won the mafia game that I played like that by just 'catching' all of my teammates.
[21:25] JinjosandJiggies: and more like the moles can be voted off at any time
[21:26] spies8lawrence: Yes
[21:26] spies8lawrence: For instance, a very basic example of scumhunting, is this
[21:26] spies8lawrence: A Spy wants to survive the game
[21:26] spies8lawrence: If they see that someone who is not a Spy is collecting votes, they may vote for that person to insure that they don't go home
[21:26] spies8lawrence: Quite obviously, this is extremely basic, and Spies know that people will be looking for those who join vote bandwagons like that
[21:27] spies8lawrence: However, that is a basic scumtell
[21:27] gingercocktail: Ok so when people join the bandwagon its uusually a Spy?
[21:27] spies8lawrence: . . . then again, I think the reason mafia is so fun, is that no scumtell works 100% of the time.
[21:27] ohlookaviewer: has joined the chat
[21:27] ohlookaviewer: has left the chat
[21:27] spies8lawrence: ohlookaviewer . . . gotta be Jenny
[21:27] ohlookaviewer: has joined the chat
[21:27] gingercocktail: lmao.
[21:27] gingercocktail: Savannah said you guys thought I was Jenny.
[21:27] spies8lawrence: Each game is its own scenario
[21:27] gingercocktail: but im not her.
[21:28] gingercocktail: Shes so boring to be me.
[21:28] gingercocktail: I see.
[21:28] spies8claude: You're just using her font :-P
[21:28] spies8claude: It was mostly just a tongue in cheek joke.
[21:28] spies8lawrence: Good night everyone
[21:28] spies8lawrence: I must retire for the evening
[21:28] gingercocktail: OH
[21:28] spies8lawrence: And ponder who accused me
[21:29] gingercocktail: im using her font?
[21:29] spies8lawrence: has left the chat
[21:29] gingercocktail: omg wait
[21:29] gingercocktail: this is Jennys font?
[21:29] gingercocktail: this makes me boring now.
[21:29] gingercocktail:
[21:29] spies8stephanie: it's her color anyway
[21:29] gingercocktail: my real AIM is Yasminkov900M.
[21:29] gingercocktail: Yasminkov9000m
[21:29] gingercocktail: so im not Jenny
[21:29] gingercocktail: and my real name is Luis.
[21:29] gingercocktail: dunno if you guys know who Jenny really is.
[21:31] spies8claude: nah
[21:31] spies8claude: but don't worry about it, we weren't serious.
[21:31] gingercocktail: oh.
[21:31] gingercocktail: lmao.
[21:31] gingercocktail: just wanted to proof.
[21:32] gingercocktail: So only 3 spies left.
[21:32] gingercocktail: Hmm.
[21:34] gingercocktail: What was the impeach thing.
[21:34] spies8claude: It meant that one of 2 people would never get their vote back
[21:34] spies8claude: And everyone else effectively decided which.
[21:34] gingercocktail: for the rest of the game?
[21:35] spies8stephanie: everyone else meaning me
[21:35] gingercocktail: Stephaniee.
[21:35] gingercocktail: is your attitude on purpose.
[21:35] spies8claude: What do you mean, 'everyone else meaning you'?
[21:35] spies8stephanie: attitude?
[21:35] gingercocktail: Yea
[21:36] spies8claude: Most people posted those dumb propaganda things, right?
[21:36] gingercocktail: I think you act cuntish.
[21:36] spies8claude: Awwww.
[21:36] spies8claude: That's rude :-(
[21:36] gingercocktail: HEY dont take it rude.
[21:36] gingercocktail: Its just a description.
[21:36] spies8stephanie: claude, i was the one who posted all of the pictures in the jasmine thread
[21:36] gingercocktail: Jasman <3
[21:36] spies8claude: ah, heh
[21:36] spies8stephanie: i don't act
[21:37] gingercocktail: ok guys.
[21:37] gingercocktail: i dont wanna get involved in the game
[21:37] spies8claude: Good idea. :-P
[21:37] gingercocktail: someone said that this could get involved in the game
[21:37] gingercocktail: so im leaving the chat.
[21:37] gingercocktail: it was nice meeting yall.
[21:38] gingercocktail: have a good night everyone maybe ill show up again to see how this works
[21:38] gingercocktail: has left the chat
[21:38] spies8stephanie: ok
[21:39] spies8stephanie: calls me cuntish and then leaves... could that have been dane in disguise?
[21:39] spies8stephanie: or just dane's best friend?
[21:55] spies8stephanie: i wish i were as clever as gert and could talk to myself as wittily as she did
[21:56] spies8stephanie: but alas
[22:05] spies8stephanie: spies5cy enters the room.
[22:05] spies8stephanie: spies5cy: owen would be behind a rondak lynch
[22:06] spies8stephanie: fail, i am going to bed
[22:06] spies8stephanie: gn viewers