group chat.
Jul 13, 2010 19:51:15 GMT -6
Post by Chance on Jul 13, 2010 19:51:15 GMT -6
the group chat mary made after finding out i had a role.
spies8mary has entered the room. 3:00 pm
spies8chance has entered the room. 3:00 pm
spies8cory has entered the room. 3:01 pm
spies8mary 3:01 pm
"As for my nominations, I am currently wavering between Chance and Lawrence."
spies8chance 3:01 pm
i don't even feel like hitting on you right now, cory.
spies8cory 3:01 pm
Lol
spies8mary 3:01 pm
"I'll be nominating Chance, of course, and trying to get others to do the same."
spies8cory 3:01 pm
Yes, I posted that.
spies8mary 3:01 pm
"Haven't nominated yet.
Currently have my mind on Chance, Gertrude, and a bit o' Stephanie & Kiara."
"I am considering going Retro and getting my groove on with a vote for Chance."
"My vote is on Chance. I think that Chance and Lawrence are both spies, but I am thinking that Chance's death might give us more information."
spies8mary 3:03 pm
CHANCE (4): Broderick, Mary, Awohali, Jasmine
Chance was just explaining to me how I've been shortsighted for thinking he's a Spy.
Did he give you the same speech, Cory?
spies8cory 3:04 pm
Not exactly.
He showed disappointment in many of my reasons before though
spies8chance 3:05 pm
i never said you were shortsighted, by the way, mary. i don't believe i ever used that word.
spies8cory 3:16 pm
So.
Let the interrogation begin.
spies8mary 3:30 pm
Sorry, there was a police officer at the door again.
I had to hide in the closet until he left.
spies8chance 3:30 pm
no problem.
spies8cory 3:30 pm
Silly cop should know to check the closet.
spies8chance 3:31 pm
cops can't barge in without a warrant.
spies8mary 3:31 pm
That's why I just hide.
Then I don't have to talk to anyone.
spies8mary 3:33 pm
I'm looking at your list from last night.
spies8claude has entered the room. 3:34 pm
spies8claude 3:35 pm
Isn't it just 'spies8' usually?
spies8mary 3:35 pm
Chance's spy list is Jasmine, Stephanie, Rondak, Claude, Magalie, Cinnamyn.
spies8mary 3:36 pm
Claude's spy list is Chance, Tina, Cinnamyn, Gertrude and who else?
spies8claude 3:37 pm
N ot Tin a..
er Not Tina.
Kiara.
Maybe Rondak(Gertrude and Kiara have both expressed suspicion toward him, so, I'm not as suren ow)
spies8cory 3:38 pm
Hello Claude.
Kiara is sketchy
spies8claude 3:38 pm
I just don't see how anyone can think that Magalie is a good lynch now. She is apparently a shitty person.
spies8cory 3:38 pm
The more I think about it the less I like her
spies8claude 3:38 pm
But there's no way she came up with all of that last night as a Spy.
spies8chance 3:39 pm
if there's anyone that deserves a lynch at this point it's magalie..
and i don't know why there's a second period there.
spies8claude 3:39 pm
Based on what, principle?
Principles don't make good lynches.
spies8mary 3:39 pm
Magalie has to go, and she is going.
Cory and Owen and Cinnamyn see her as the best Exile.
spies8chance 3:40 pm
good lynches according to...?
spies8claude 3:40 pm
So...why am I in this room?
They don't make good lynches according to the game of mafia.
spies8mary 3:40 pm
To talk about next steps.
spies8chance 3:41 pm
mary took it upon herself to play jenny and make her own spies room. :-P
spies8mary 3:41 pm
Chance, your case on Jasmine.
spies8cory 3:41 pm
I'm not as convinced on Magalie. I agree with Claude that she probably didn't come up with that gambit on her own
spies8chance 3:41 pm
in progress. i just need to actually go back through and physically grab the quotes i need.
spies8mary 3:41 pm
Does it take into account what Claude and Cory and I see as Citizenish about her?
spies8chance 3:41 pm
i actually managed to put a contact in today.
spies8cory 3:41 pm
But I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that her spy team helped her conoct it
It's not really a mod-killable offense
spies8chance 3:42 pm
you mean the fact that jasmine was on isaac before isaac was exiled, mary?
spies8mary 3:42 pm
That's part of it, yes.
spies8chance 3:42 pm
what's the other part?
spies8mary 3:42 pm
Her general tone in the process.
spies8claude 3:42 pm
Or the fact that Isaac tried to push her to be the leading Republican vote hours before Exile.
spies8chance 3:42 pm
i don't find her stance on isaac to be conclusive proof that she's a citizen, no.
spies8claude 3:43 pm
Or the manner in which he attacked her for ignoring your case(another point against YOU), by the way.
spies8mary 3:43 pm
I didn't say conclusive.
I'm just saying, how does it make you consider her compared to others.
spies8chance 3:43 pm
if claude is just going to turn things back around against me then i'm leaving.
spies8mary 3:43 pm
No, I want to try to leave the Chance/Claude thing out of it.
spies8chance 3:43 pm
he can do that perfectly well without me having to sit through it.
spies8claude 3:43 pm
Have a nice chat.
spies8claude has left the room. 3:43 pm
spies8cory 3:44 pm
Well great.
So Mary.
What is your take on all of this?
spies8chance 3:44 pm
and i was being civil, too.
anyway, back to jasmine.
spies8chance 3:45 pm
i think it's within the realm of possibility that there was bussing on the isaac wagon.
spies8mary 3:45 pm
Has Chance claimed his partner to you?
spies8chance 3:45 pm
and i think her actions against me early on and the timing of her vote for themba push her farther down the scale than the isaac exile pushes her up.
spies8cory 3:46 pm
Yes
spies8chance 3:46 pm
'timing of her vote' is probably a bad way to put that, but i don't really know how else to say it.
spies8mary 3:46 pm
But her Themba vote was 1) self-preservation and 2) "forced" by Lilith, right?
spies8chance 3:46 pm
that's not what i'm arguing.
spies8mary 3:46 pm
" the timing of her vote for themba push her farther down the scale"
spies8chance 3:46 pm
i'm arguing that it's fishy that jasmine had a full half-hour, according to her, to either post in the burg or tell someone else that she was changing her vote to themba.
so far no one has come forward to say that jasmine told them about her vote switch.
spies8chance 3:47 pm
like i said, that's probably a bad way to describe my point, but i don't know how else to word it.
spies8mary 3:47 pm
Was there a running vote count at the time in their group chat?
What would her goal there be as a Spy?
spies8chance 3:47 pm
if there was, i would think someone would have mentioned it in response to my point. plenty of people know about it.
i can't speak for jasmine. i would guess that her goals as a citizen or a spy there were the same - self preservation.
but i think a citizen would have said that, not kept it secret.
spies8mary 3:50 pm
If she had said it, what would the vote count have been?
That's such a thin piece of evidence. There are many reasons why people don't always post.
spies8chance 3:52 pm
as far as i can tell, the vote count was themba 4, jasmine 3. i suspect knowing that she was more likely to be exiled over jasmine might have made themba fight harder, although i can't be certain.
spies8chance 3:52 pm
hahaha. nothing i say is ever going to be good enough, is it, mary?
spies8mary 3:53 pm
I'm just biased I guess.
spies8cory 3:53 pm
Sorry, was getting my lifeguard food
spies8mary 3:53 pm
When Jasmine and I compared notes about Isaac, it didn't feel like she was bussing.
spies8chance 3:53 pm
good bussing never feels like it's bussing.
spies8mary 3:53 pm
I guess she could be more crafty than I think but I don't think so.
spies8chance 3:54 pm
not only do i think she's a spy, i know she's a lurker.
spies8chance 3:54 pm
where the hell has she been lately?
spies8mary 3:54 pm
Anyhow, Rondak.
I have no idea.
spies8cory 3:54 pm
Yeah
The only 'case' against him I've heard is him faking being a newbie
Which, I dunno
spies8mary 3:55 pm
Rondak could easily be a spy.
Or not.
spies8cory 3:55 pm
Feels like a coin toss to me
spies8mary 3:55 pm
There's just about no evidence either way.
spies8chance 3:55 pm
i'd like to see him gone on principle, but i liked gertie's points on him.
spies8mary 4:18 pm
Did you find Gertrude suspect for her bandwagoning?
spies8chance 4:20 pm
originally, yes. however she said it was for playstyle reasons and would try to change, and she clearly has, so i don't any more.
spies8mary 4:20 pm
Who did you want exiled after Episode 3?
After the Themba exile.
spies8chance 4:21 pm
claude and jasmine.
in that order.
spies8mary 4:22 pm
Is that when you had your chats with Isaac?
spies8chance 4:22 pm
no.
the first chat with isaac i had episode 1.
let me check for when the second one was.
spies8chance 4:24 pm
we mentioned claude's hijacking of owen's thread, so it was right after owen was made dictator.
spies8mary 4:30 pm
What did you discuss, primarily?
spies8chance 4:30 pm
in which chat?
the first one, or the second one>?
spies8mary 4:30 pm
The second one I'm more curious about.
spies8chance 4:31 pm
let's see.
we talked about being suspicious of claude, and then i changed the subject to jasmine.
spies8mary 4:32 pm
Did he agree with you on Jasmine?
spies8chance 4:32 pm
i brought up a question i was going to ask her, and (in my opinion) he seemed to defend her.
stating absolute truth.
spies8chance (3:29:53 PM):question for jasmine - if you signed on 20-30 minutes before exile, as shown here -
[00:17] spies8jasmine: I didn't know, tbh. I signed on like 20-3 0 minutes before votes were due
why didn't you post your vote switch in the vote tally thread? spies8isaac (3:30:53 PM):She changed her vote last minute over something lilith said. It's in a post somewhere if I can find it. Hold on spies8isaac (3:34:02 PM):Hmmm, for some reason I can't pull up my chat logs. Basically because the votes were so close lilith IM'd Jasmine and persuaded her to change her mind. Since Jasmine didn't have strong feeling either way, she did
spies8mary 4:33 pm
That's kind of how I saw it.
From what I've read.
spies8chance 4:33 pm
i don't disagree.
spies8mary 4:33 pm
Did you ask him if he suspected Jasmine?
spies8chance 4:34 pm
but i was going to ask about the timing and isaac brought up the reason.
the chat ends pretty quickly after that.
spies8isaac (3:35:49 PM):I know, saw that. But then again I already had sevral reasons to voye Jasmine only many others don't seem to notice or care. Even Broderick questioning it last night didn't get anyone else really involved in the discussion
spies8chance 4:34 pm
is the last sentence of the chat.
spies8mary 4:34 pm
You had the same two primary suspects and you didn't talk about them much?
spies8chance 4:35 pm
not really. he signed off about eleven minutes after that.
spies8mary 4:35 pm
Ok.
spies8chance 4:35 pm
spies8isaac signed off at 3:46:36 PM
spies8mary has entered the room. 3:00 pm
spies8chance has entered the room. 3:00 pm
spies8cory has entered the room. 3:01 pm
spies8mary 3:01 pm
"As for my nominations, I am currently wavering between Chance and Lawrence."
spies8chance 3:01 pm
i don't even feel like hitting on you right now, cory.
spies8cory 3:01 pm
Lol
spies8mary 3:01 pm
"I'll be nominating Chance, of course, and trying to get others to do the same."
spies8cory 3:01 pm
Yes, I posted that.
spies8mary 3:01 pm
"Haven't nominated yet.
Currently have my mind on Chance, Gertrude, and a bit o' Stephanie & Kiara."
"I am considering going Retro and getting my groove on with a vote for Chance."
"My vote is on Chance. I think that Chance and Lawrence are both spies, but I am thinking that Chance's death might give us more information."
spies8mary 3:03 pm
CHANCE (4): Broderick, Mary, Awohali, Jasmine
Chance was just explaining to me how I've been shortsighted for thinking he's a Spy.
Did he give you the same speech, Cory?
spies8cory 3:04 pm
Not exactly.
He showed disappointment in many of my reasons before though
spies8chance 3:05 pm
i never said you were shortsighted, by the way, mary. i don't believe i ever used that word.
spies8cory 3:16 pm
So.
Let the interrogation begin.
spies8mary 3:30 pm
Sorry, there was a police officer at the door again.
I had to hide in the closet until he left.
spies8chance 3:30 pm
no problem.
spies8cory 3:30 pm
Silly cop should know to check the closet.
spies8chance 3:31 pm
cops can't barge in without a warrant.
spies8mary 3:31 pm
That's why I just hide.
Then I don't have to talk to anyone.
spies8mary 3:33 pm
I'm looking at your list from last night.
spies8claude has entered the room. 3:34 pm
spies8claude 3:35 pm
Isn't it just 'spies8' usually?
spies8mary 3:35 pm
Chance's spy list is Jasmine, Stephanie, Rondak, Claude, Magalie, Cinnamyn.
spies8mary 3:36 pm
Claude's spy list is Chance, Tina, Cinnamyn, Gertrude and who else?
spies8claude 3:37 pm
N ot Tin a..
er Not Tina.
Kiara.
Maybe Rondak(Gertrude and Kiara have both expressed suspicion toward him, so, I'm not as suren ow)
spies8cory 3:38 pm
Hello Claude.
Kiara is sketchy
spies8claude 3:38 pm
I just don't see how anyone can think that Magalie is a good lynch now. She is apparently a shitty person.
spies8cory 3:38 pm
The more I think about it the less I like her
spies8claude 3:38 pm
But there's no way she came up with all of that last night as a Spy.
spies8chance 3:39 pm
if there's anyone that deserves a lynch at this point it's magalie..
and i don't know why there's a second period there.
spies8claude 3:39 pm
Based on what, principle?
Principles don't make good lynches.
spies8mary 3:39 pm
Magalie has to go, and she is going.
Cory and Owen and Cinnamyn see her as the best Exile.
spies8chance 3:40 pm
good lynches according to...?
spies8claude 3:40 pm
So...why am I in this room?
They don't make good lynches according to the game of mafia.
spies8mary 3:40 pm
To talk about next steps.
spies8chance 3:41 pm
mary took it upon herself to play jenny and make her own spies room. :-P
spies8mary 3:41 pm
Chance, your case on Jasmine.
spies8cory 3:41 pm
I'm not as convinced on Magalie. I agree with Claude that she probably didn't come up with that gambit on her own
spies8chance 3:41 pm
in progress. i just need to actually go back through and physically grab the quotes i need.
spies8mary 3:41 pm
Does it take into account what Claude and Cory and I see as Citizenish about her?
spies8chance 3:41 pm
i actually managed to put a contact in today.
spies8cory 3:41 pm
But I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that her spy team helped her conoct it
It's not really a mod-killable offense
spies8chance 3:42 pm
you mean the fact that jasmine was on isaac before isaac was exiled, mary?
spies8mary 3:42 pm
That's part of it, yes.
spies8chance 3:42 pm
what's the other part?
spies8mary 3:42 pm
Her general tone in the process.
spies8claude 3:42 pm
Or the fact that Isaac tried to push her to be the leading Republican vote hours before Exile.
spies8chance 3:42 pm
i don't find her stance on isaac to be conclusive proof that she's a citizen, no.
spies8claude 3:43 pm
Or the manner in which he attacked her for ignoring your case(another point against YOU), by the way.
spies8mary 3:43 pm
I didn't say conclusive.
I'm just saying, how does it make you consider her compared to others.
spies8chance 3:43 pm
if claude is just going to turn things back around against me then i'm leaving.
spies8mary 3:43 pm
No, I want to try to leave the Chance/Claude thing out of it.
spies8chance 3:43 pm
he can do that perfectly well without me having to sit through it.
spies8claude 3:43 pm
Have a nice chat.
spies8claude has left the room. 3:43 pm
spies8cory 3:44 pm
Well great.
So Mary.
What is your take on all of this?
spies8chance 3:44 pm
and i was being civil, too.
anyway, back to jasmine.
spies8chance 3:45 pm
i think it's within the realm of possibility that there was bussing on the isaac wagon.
spies8mary 3:45 pm
Has Chance claimed his partner to you?
spies8chance 3:45 pm
and i think her actions against me early on and the timing of her vote for themba push her farther down the scale than the isaac exile pushes her up.
spies8cory 3:46 pm
Yes
spies8chance 3:46 pm
'timing of her vote' is probably a bad way to put that, but i don't really know how else to say it.
spies8mary 3:46 pm
But her Themba vote was 1) self-preservation and 2) "forced" by Lilith, right?
spies8chance 3:46 pm
that's not what i'm arguing.
spies8mary 3:46 pm
" the timing of her vote for themba push her farther down the scale"
spies8chance 3:46 pm
i'm arguing that it's fishy that jasmine had a full half-hour, according to her, to either post in the burg or tell someone else that she was changing her vote to themba.
so far no one has come forward to say that jasmine told them about her vote switch.
spies8chance 3:47 pm
like i said, that's probably a bad way to describe my point, but i don't know how else to word it.
spies8mary 3:47 pm
Was there a running vote count at the time in their group chat?
What would her goal there be as a Spy?
spies8chance 3:47 pm
if there was, i would think someone would have mentioned it in response to my point. plenty of people know about it.
i can't speak for jasmine. i would guess that her goals as a citizen or a spy there were the same - self preservation.
but i think a citizen would have said that, not kept it secret.
spies8mary 3:50 pm
If she had said it, what would the vote count have been?
That's such a thin piece of evidence. There are many reasons why people don't always post.
spies8chance 3:52 pm
as far as i can tell, the vote count was themba 4, jasmine 3. i suspect knowing that she was more likely to be exiled over jasmine might have made themba fight harder, although i can't be certain.
spies8chance 3:52 pm
hahaha. nothing i say is ever going to be good enough, is it, mary?
spies8mary 3:53 pm
I'm just biased I guess.
spies8cory 3:53 pm
Sorry, was getting my lifeguard food
spies8mary 3:53 pm
When Jasmine and I compared notes about Isaac, it didn't feel like she was bussing.
spies8chance 3:53 pm
good bussing never feels like it's bussing.
spies8mary 3:53 pm
I guess she could be more crafty than I think but I don't think so.
spies8chance 3:54 pm
not only do i think she's a spy, i know she's a lurker.
spies8chance 3:54 pm
where the hell has she been lately?
spies8mary 3:54 pm
Anyhow, Rondak.
I have no idea.
spies8cory 3:54 pm
Yeah
The only 'case' against him I've heard is him faking being a newbie
Which, I dunno
spies8mary 3:55 pm
Rondak could easily be a spy.
Or not.
spies8cory 3:55 pm
Feels like a coin toss to me
spies8mary 3:55 pm
There's just about no evidence either way.
spies8chance 3:55 pm
i'd like to see him gone on principle, but i liked gertie's points on him.
spies8mary 4:18 pm
Did you find Gertrude suspect for her bandwagoning?
spies8chance 4:20 pm
originally, yes. however she said it was for playstyle reasons and would try to change, and she clearly has, so i don't any more.
spies8mary 4:20 pm
Who did you want exiled after Episode 3?
After the Themba exile.
spies8chance 4:21 pm
claude and jasmine.
in that order.
spies8mary 4:22 pm
Is that when you had your chats with Isaac?
spies8chance 4:22 pm
no.
the first chat with isaac i had episode 1.
let me check for when the second one was.
spies8chance 4:24 pm
we mentioned claude's hijacking of owen's thread, so it was right after owen was made dictator.
spies8mary 4:30 pm
What did you discuss, primarily?
spies8chance 4:30 pm
in which chat?
the first one, or the second one>?
spies8mary 4:30 pm
The second one I'm more curious about.
spies8chance 4:31 pm
let's see.
we talked about being suspicious of claude, and then i changed the subject to jasmine.
spies8mary 4:32 pm
Did he agree with you on Jasmine?
spies8chance 4:32 pm
i brought up a question i was going to ask her, and (in my opinion) he seemed to defend her.
stating absolute truth.
spies8chance (3:29:53 PM):question for jasmine - if you signed on 20-30 minutes before exile, as shown here -
[00:17] spies8jasmine: I didn't know, tbh. I signed on like 20-3 0 minutes before votes were due
why didn't you post your vote switch in the vote tally thread? spies8isaac (3:30:53 PM):She changed her vote last minute over something lilith said. It's in a post somewhere if I can find it. Hold on spies8isaac (3:34:02 PM):Hmmm, for some reason I can't pull up my chat logs. Basically because the votes were so close lilith IM'd Jasmine and persuaded her to change her mind. Since Jasmine didn't have strong feeling either way, she did
spies8mary 4:33 pm
That's kind of how I saw it.
From what I've read.
spies8chance 4:33 pm
i don't disagree.
spies8mary 4:33 pm
Did you ask him if he suspected Jasmine?
spies8chance 4:34 pm
but i was going to ask about the timing and isaac brought up the reason.
the chat ends pretty quickly after that.
spies8isaac (3:35:49 PM):I know, saw that. But then again I already had sevral reasons to voye Jasmine only many others don't seem to notice or care. Even Broderick questioning it last night didn't get anyone else really involved in the discussion
spies8chance 4:34 pm
is the last sentence of the chat.
spies8mary 4:34 pm
You had the same two primary suspects and you didn't talk about them much?
spies8chance 4:35 pm
not really. he signed off about eleven minutes after that.
spies8mary 4:35 pm
Ok.
spies8chance 4:35 pm
spies8isaac signed off at 3:46:36 PM