Mary's Episode 7 Conversations

[Mary]

[14:54] spies8claude: Is there a real point to all of this questioning? Virtually the entire senate atm is set on exiling awohali today.
[14:55] spies8mary: I think Jenny could be a spy. I want to get people's opinions of her, mostly other people but I wanted to see what you thought.
[14:55] spies8claude: It's definetely possible.
[14:55] spies8mary: I was more hoping for Jasmine's perspective.
[14:55] spies8mary: But she bailed and left us to answer.
[14:55] spies8claude: heh
[14:56] spies8mary: She switched from Jenny to you after a reread.
[14:56] spies8mary: Which is odd to me.
[14:56] spies8claude: I don't think that re-read actually happened
[14:56] spies8claude: Since she was asking whether or not I've been telling people what I've done with my ability the last few days in her thread.
[14:56] spies8mary: She mentioned a few details.
[14:56] spies8claude: And I was as public as can be about that.
[14:56] spies8mary: That's true.
[14:57] spies8mary: I had a Citizen read on Jasmine from earlier.
[14:57] spies8claude: Me too.
[14:57] spies8claude: I still do really.
[14:57] spies8mary: She hasn't done anything yet other than suspect you.
[14:57] spies8mary: So we'll see what she does next.
[14:57] spies8mary: Are you worried about Imprisonment?
[14:57] spies8claude: Eh.
[14:57] spies8claude: Not really
[14:58] spies8mary: I imagine it might come as a relief to you.
[14:58] spies8claude: I think you/cory/owen are more likely targets atm.
[14:58] spies8mary: I'm tired of this Senate thing.
[14:58] spies8claude: I'm tired of this game
[14:58] spies8claude: shrug
[14:58] spies8mary: If I get Imprisoned it'll just be more time to enjoy monsoon season outdoors.
[14:59] spies8mary: It's a nice day out.
[14:59] spies8mary: Overcast and way cooler than usual.
[14:59] spies8claude: Yeah?
[14:59] spies8claude: It's just hot here, as usual.
[14:59] spies8mary: You're in Phoenix, right?
[14:59] spies8claude: In that area
[15:00] spies8claude: Chandler specifically
[15:00] spies8mary: Same here.
[15:00] spies8claude: wait really?
[15:00] spies8mary: Please don't spread it around.
[15:00] spies8claude: small world
[15:00] spies8mary: Yes. Our internet goes out at the same time.
[15:00] spies8mary: That's how I noticed.
[15:00] spies8claude: haha
[15:00] spies8claude: Cox :-(
[15:01] spies8mary: Anyhow, I want Lawrence to catch up so we can grill him.
[15:01] spies8claude: Yeah.
[15:01] spies8mary: My spy list is something like Rondak, Jenny, Lawrence, Cinnamyn, maybe Hambone or Dane.
[15:02] spies8mary: But that's a few too many lurkers.
[15:02] spies8mary: I'm probably missing one in the "decent players" list.

[Mary]

[12:34] spies8mary: Do you want to win your vote back?
[12:35] spies8kiara: thats the main reason im on, i wanted to talk to you guys and see what you guys were doing. id happily take it, but that leave the house full of people i dont trust lol
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[17:06] spies8kiara: looking for your opinion on something
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[17:20] spies8mary: Hi.
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[18:55] spies8kiara: fyi im here if im needed, but hiding for the time being
[18:55] spies8mary: Hi.
[18:55] spies8mary: You had a question before and I just missed you.
[18:56] spies8kiara: its still valid. right now my vote is for chance, but im afraid of how im going to try and justify it to everyone else. thats why im keeping a low profile right now. any thoughts before the deadline passes and i cant change it?
[18:57] spies8mary: Why would you waste your vote?
[18:58] spies8kiara: so he can use his ability to protect gertrude so she can use hers
[18:58] spies8mary: Does she need protecting?
[18:58] spies8kiara: he seems to think so
[18:58] spies8mary: Who would you vote otherwise?
[18:58] spies8kiara: jenny
[18:59] spies8mary: If they're already getting nominated, then it doesn't matter.
[18:59] spies8kiara: thats part of why i didnt feel bad about it
[19:00] spies8mary: If you need a reason, you can always say that everyone else you suspected was already nominated?
[19:00] spies8mary: So you picked the name that was 5 or 6 down on your list?
[19:01] spies8kiara: thatd be a stretch, since ive been pretty vocal that i thought claudes role was scummy, but need be i can try it
[19:02] spies8mary: Have you changed your mind on Claude?
[19:02] spies8kiara: slightly, but mostly because he now seems to be working with chance and gert and you guys, which isnt a reason i could say publically
[19:03] spies8mary: That's not a good reason to change your mind on him.
[19:03] spies8kiara: thats why i said slightly
[19:04] spies8mary: Ok.
[19:04] spies8mary: I think you're ok with your vote.
[19:04] spies8kiara: its a point in his favor, but he has a lot against
[19:04] spies8mary: Who do you want to see exiled?
[19:04] spies8kiara: jenny or dane. though the other night it seemed like everyone else was on awohali
[19:05] spies8mary: I will probably vote for Jenny, Cinnamyn or Lawrence.
[19:06] spies8kiara: cinnamyn i wouldnt feel bad about, shes been creeping up my list recently
[19:06] spies8mary: Maybe Rondak, maybe Dane.
[19:06] spies8kiara: well rondak is only going up if he doesnt vote it looks like, but id be happy if he went too
[19:06] spies8mary: Who is "everyone" on Awohali?
[19:07] spies8kiara: chance/claude/gert, ot at least thats the impression i got in the h&h chat
[19:08] spies8kiara: rondak and chance are now in the senate. that takes the house down to 7
[19:08] spies8mary: Rondak?
[19:08] spies8kiara: apparently the person with the least votes also switched over
[19:09] spies8mary: That's interesting.

[Mary]

[20:03] spies8hambone: yo
[20:03] spies8hambone: has anyone voted for u
[20:03] spies8hambone: nomination or exile vote
[20:04] spies8hambone: ?
[20:46] spies8hambone: where u at hooo
[21:56] spies8hambone: U HERE
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[10:18] spies8hambone: hi
[10:39] spies8hambone: ...
[10:39] spies8mary: Hi.
[10:39] spies8hambone: there u are
[10:39] spies8hambone: whatsup
[10:40] spies8mary: Nothing.
[10:40] spies8mary: We need to look interested, but let the Citizens do the dirty work today and tomorrow.
[10:41] spies8hambone: ive been doing that all game, lol
[10:43] spies8hambone: i gotta show u somethin
[10:43] spies8hambone: but ur not allowed to show anyone
[10:44] spies8hambone: dammit mary
[10:44] spies8hambone: i have to go like now
[10:44] spies8hambone: u never talk
[10:44] spies8mary: Ok.
[10:44] spies8mary: I'm here.
[10:44] spies8hambone: ok
[10:44] spies8mary: I had to get a drink.
[10:44] spies8hambone: i showed cinnamon last night
[10:44] spies8hambone: im not showing lawrence
[10:44] spies8hambone: cuz i cant trust him
[10:45] spies8hambone: but u 2 i can
[10:45] spies8mary: I don't want to see your penis.
[10:45] spies8hambone: lol
[10:45] spies8hambone: she said the same thing
[10:45] spies8hambone: ive made 3 songs
[10:45] spies8mary: Wow.
[10:45] spies8hambone: sam says i can give u the link
[10:45] spies8mary: That's interesting.
[10:45] spies8hambone: u just cant give the link to anyone
[10:45] spies8mary: Now I am all curious.
[10:45] spies8hambone: cuz the only way its viewable is if u spread the link
[10:45] spies8mary: When will he let you post it?
[10:46] spies8hambone: when the game is over
[10:46] spies8hambone: everyone gets to see it
[10:46] spies8mary: Are you Trey?
[10:46] spies8hambone: but he says i can show us spies
[10:46] spies8hambone: trey?
[10:46] spies8hambone: no
[10:46] spies8mary: He is the only weirdo I know who writes songs about Spies.
[10:46] spies8mary: Now there are two.
[10:46] spies8hambone: lol
[10:46] spies8hambone: no
[10:46] spies8hambone: im new to spies
[10:46] spies8mary: Good for you.
[10:46] spies8mary: In spite of your small brain, you're doing quite well.
[10:47] spies8hambone: ok the first one i made is "Tell Me Your Roles" by Jenny.... and its prolly the worst, since its freestyled and i was just goofin around
[10:47] spies8hambone: the second is my favorite, which i tried on, called... "Cant Sign Off" by Zedekiah
[10:47] spies8mary: Oh god.
[10:47] spies8mary: You're the Yurinator.
[10:47] spies8hambone: and the third is Sam's favorite... callled "I Hate The Aim Aspect" by Allan
[10:48] spies8hambone: the what?
[10:48] spies8mary: Ok, let me see them.
[10:48] spies8hambone: lol what did u call me
[10:48] spies8mary: I will tell you if you have a future in entertainment.
[10:48] spies8hambone: I CANT SING FOR SHIT -__-
[10:48] spies8hambone: www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXTGqfWmtiw&feature=player_embedded
[10:49] spies8mary: That was pretty good, Boner.
[10:50] spies8hambone: thanks :-)
[10:50] spies8mary: You kind of busted out a groove in 8-bit style.
[10:50] spies8hambone: ya
[10:51] spies8hambone: ill show u the Allan one
[10:51] spies8hambone: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyfNzjz07qw&feature=player_embedded
[10:51] spies8hambone: it gets good at 1:30 imo
[10:51] spies8hambone: but ya
[10:52] spies8mary: Where's the third one?
[10:52] spies8hambone: EH =/
[10:52] spies8hambone: i need to redo it
[10:52] spies8hambone: its bad
[10:52] spies8mary: Ok.
[10:52] spies8hambone: cyn laughed at it
[10:52] spies8hambone: cuz it sucked
[10:52] spies8hambone: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYFHkMYJrFY&feature=player_embedded
[10:52] spies8hambone: thats it
[10:53] spies8hambone: the second half of the Allan one is good
[10:53] spies8hambone: there are small bits of the jenny one that are ok
[10:53] spies8mary: Hame.
[10:53] spies8hambone: lol
[10:54] spies8mary: I like that one too.
[10:54] spies8hambone: ya same
[10:55] spies8mary: The best part of the game is quitting.
[10:55] spies8hambone: JENNY one needs a revamp
[10:55] spies8mary: That almost made me laugh.
[10:55] spies8hambone: lol
[10:55] spies8hambone: Cyn was laughin hard last night
[10:56] spies8hambone: ya ive said the word Jenny so much this game
[10:56] spies8hambone: so ill redo hers
[10:56] spies8hambone: cuz i gotta
[10:56] spies8hambone: lol
[10:56] spies8hambone: ttyl
[10:56] spies8mary: I have a suggestion.
[10:56] spies8hambone: what
[10:56] spies8mary: I'll tell you later.
[10:56] spies8hambone: tell me now
[10:57] spies8mary: The Jenny song.
[10:57] spies8hambone: ok
[10:57] spies8mary: "Why do I suspect him? Cause he's never around."
[10:57] spies8mary: "I'd like to see more of him."
[10:57] spies8hambone: lolol
[10:57] spies8mary: That's all she ever says.
[10:57] spies8mary: In 200 different ways.
[10:57] spies8hambone: lol
[10:57] spies8mary: I like the butter on my roles part though.
[10:58] spies8hambone: lol same
[10:58] spies8hambone: also
[10:58] spies8hambone: You Say you're the copycat
[10:58] spies8hambone: well ill copy that
[10:58] spies8hambone: roger that
[10:58] spies8mary: haha
[10:58] spies8hambone: Sam says he giggled like a girl
[10:58] spies8hambone: over the Nita part of it
[10:58] spies8mary: Third party la-di-dah-dee
[10:58] spies8hambone: you say you're third party
[10:58] spies8hambone: that sounds really hotty
[10:59] spies8mary: I say you're a hottie.
[10:59] spies8hambone: you're so naughty
[10:59] spies8hambone: lol
[10:59] spies8mary: Ridiculous, Boner.
[10:59] spies8hambone: hehe
[10:59] spies8hambone: sam said that ppl do video convressionals
[10:59] spies8hambone: cinamon said she does
[10:59] spies8hambone: so maybe i will do one
[11:00] spies8mary: You should.
[11:00] spies8mary: I do therapy sessions with Claude.
[11:00] spies8mary: So I don't hurt anybody.
[11:00] spies8hambone: lol
[11:00] spies8hambone: k ill ttyl
[11:00] spies8hambone: bye
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[11:01] spies8mary: Have a nice swim.

[Mary]

[11:09] spies8rondak: So, Mary, what are your thoughts?
[11:10] spies8mary: I have a lot of thoughts.
[11:10] spies8rondak: Anything stand out?
[11:10] spies8mary: I don't like the push on Awohali.
[11:10] spies8mary: What do you think of him?
[11:11] spies8rondak: There might be something hidden behind his strange sense of humor
[11:11] spies8rondak: but on gut dfeeling, I'm getting an innocent vibe
[11:11] spies8mary: What do you think of the three cases on him?
[11:11] spies8rondak: let me check them really fast
[11:11] spies8mary: Ok.
[11:21] spies8rondak: Hmm...
[11:21] spies8rondak: It seems strange
[11:22] spies8rondak: that instead of refuting the caes on him, Awohali keeps saying "not true" orthe likes
[11:22] spies8rondak: He doesn't seem to back up most of his counter-arguments
[11:23] spies8mary: What's an example of that?
[11:27] spies8rondak: nevermind, I misread
[11:27] spies8mary: I think he addresses Chance's points pretty well.
[11:28] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=1269&post=7562
[11:28] spies8rondak: But, I'm not sure if it's his personality...but I find it awkward that he tends to attack the person as well as the argument
[11:28] spies8rondak: Take Cinnamyn for an example.
[11:28] spies8rondak: :
[11:28] spies8rondak: These asre some of Awohali's responses "Secondly, I have not coasted or rested on the same suspicions at all. I have added many things to my thoughts and cases on many people since Episode 2. To actually suggest that I have not is quite honestly flabbergasting."
[11:29] spies8rondak: "I tried to push for Magalie over Margot. People such as yourself were not having that. I find it funny that in a round in which you voted for a Citizen over the Spy, you are criticizing me for voting the Spy over the Citizen."
[11:29] spies8rondak: "I am never sarcastic. Overall, I am quite disappointed in this case against me. I would have expected more substance, rather than claims easily proven to not be true."
[11:29] spies8mary: That does make it personal.
[11:30] spies8mary: Instead of simply addressing the accusation, it tries to make the accuser look bad.
[11:30] spies8rondak: And that last statement stood out now that I read it again.
[11:30] spies8rondak: What did he mean when he said he expected "more substance"
[11:30] spies8rondak: ?
[11:30] spies8mary: That is about Cinnamyn's case?
[11:31] spies8rondak: yes
[11:35] spies8mary: He's clearly trying to say that he addressed all her points, but also that all her points were bad.
[11:36] spies8mary: Because it is possible to make points of substance that are still refuted successfully.
[11:43] spies8rondak: who are you voting for?
[11:43] spies8mary: I am trying to decide between Jenny and Cinnamyn.
[11:44] spies8mary: I am interested in learning more about your suspicions.
[11:46] spies8rondak: innamyn fell completely off my radar, since I haven't had much contact with her.
[11:46] spies8rondak: The previous rondak had suspicions about Jenny, but he didn't leave much as to wht
[11:46] spies8rondak: why*
[11:46] spies8mary: She has made a few big posts lately, and also has a fairly significant post history.
[11:46] spies8rondak: While some players claim is her being avoiding
[11:46] spies8mary: Cinnamyn, that is.
[11:46] spies8mary: With Jenny, it is the constant lack of suspicions.
[11:47] spies8mary: She nominated a player she didn't have a Spy read on.
[11:47] spies8mary: Her reasons for votes or suspicions often seem to be "I need to see more of him/her."
[11:48] spies8mary: And yet when she sees them, she rarely asks anything that would help determine alignment.
[11:48] spies8rondak: true,and I rmember her saying that she "wasn't ready to see [Chance] go"
[11:49] spies8rondak: It's a very complicated game
[11:53] spies8mary: Well, you've only had 8 days to learn 4 weeks worth of happenings.
[11:53] spies8rondak: For now, I'll just try to see who I agree with the most
[11:58] spies8mary: Who are the four spies?
[12:02] spies8rondak: If I had to pick with just gut feeling...
[12:03] spies8rondak: I would say
[12:03] spies8rondak: Chance, Claude, Jenny and Gertrude
[12:03] spies8rondak: but that's just blindly guessing
[12:04] spies8mary: Do you suspect that Claude is bussing Spies?
[12:04] spies8rondak: could be
[12:04] spies8rondak: see,this is my motto
[12:04] spies8rondak: "You never know the extent of Reverse Psychology"
[12:06] spies8mary: How do you apply that motto to this game?
[12:06] spies8rondak: Maybe a player seems to be very pro-town, and is very good at finding spies
[12:06] spies8rondak: That could be a cover-up for a spy
[12:07] spies8rondak: At that point you could think that such a good player shouldn't be exiled
[12:07] spies8mary: So your list of people you agree with most.
[12:07] spies8rondak: So bussing becomes a good strategy for survival
[12:07] spies8mary: Could have all four spies.
[12:08] spies8rondak: Yes, it's all probabilistic
[12:08] spies8mary: Owen has voted for three Spies. How will you evaluate him?
[12:09] spies8rondak: That's the thing, I haven't talked to him
[12:09] spies8rondak: So my suspicions would be that he's a spy because
[12:10] spies8rondak: From what I read about Tina, she was very good with cases
[12:10] spies8rondak: and she was exiled
[12:10] spies8rondak: now, if Owen was such a good player at finding spies, why wasn't he imprisoned before?
[12:11] spies8mary: A valid point that also applies to me.
[12:16] spies8rondak: But, yeah I'll guess I'll have to go with however I feel.
[12:18] spies8mary: What do you think of Broderick?
[12:18] spies8rondak: He takes it too seriously
[12:18] spies8mary: Do you find that Spyish?
[12:19] spies8rondak: When the Hambone issue happened, Broderick spent about 30-minutes asking me about my wording
[12:19] spies8rondak: not really
[12:19] spies8mary: I think Broderick makes good cases, even though I don't always agree with them.
[12:21] spies8rondak: Let's see what happens
[12:21] spies8rondak: was there an activity this week?
[12:22] spies8mary: The vote to make you and Chance Senators.
[12:22] spies8rondak: that went well, lol
[12:23] spies8mary: Why do you suspect Jenny?
[12:25] spies8rondak: She seems to base her cases on the amount of time she talks with people
[12:25] spies8rondak: But mostly because old Rondak voted for her before leaving
[12:26] spies8rondak: I have this strage feeling that she might be playing "klutzy girl" as a cover up
[12:27] spies8mary: My biggest problem with her is that she doesn't seem truly curious about who the Spies are.
[12:28] spies8mary: I have a similar problem with Cinnamyn. At times, her posts leave me feeling like she's making appearances, not cases.
[12:28] spies8rondak: true

[Mary]

[08:51] spies8jenny: Only on for a few minutes, was hoping more people would be on right now.
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[09:13] spies8mary: Hi.
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[09:36] spies8jenny: How are you doing?
[09:42] spies8mary: Ok.
[09:42] spies8mary: I'm trying to catch up on the Awohali cases.
[09:43] spies8jenny: I'm trying to get some stuff together to respond to Hali about his comment yesterday. Pain in the neck really, much prefer to just talking about it in AIM, but oh well.
[09:43] spies8mary: Do you know if he will be around today?
[09:43] spies8jenny: Haven't a clue.
[09:43] spies8jenny: Maybe.
[09:44] spies8mary: What do you think of his back and forth with Cinnamyn?
[09:45] spies8jenny: In their thread you mean?
[09:46] spies8mary: Yes.
[09:51] spies8jenny: Well some of Spice put up is what I'm eventually going to post about when I get this thing done, I'd be easier to read half this stuff though if it wasn't in chat speak. I'm having to read these posts several times to figure out what she's saying at points.
[09:53] spies8mary: It looks like Cinnamyn thinks you and Awohali are Spies together.
[09:53] spies8mary: I think that's what she's getting at.
[09:54] spies8jenny: I didn't get that impression myself. What makes you say that?
[09:55] spies8mary: "in doing so, chance got 4 votez, while jenny only got 1. if he had voted 4 jenny, she wud have been up 4 nominashin also."
[09:56] spies8mary: "dis round he didnt vote jenny 2 get her nominated.?"
[09:56] spies8jenny: That might be why I didn't get that impression, I had actually brought that up with her myself. I thought it was weird at the time he didn't put a vote on me as well.
[09:56] spies8mary: And he defends with:
[09:56] spies8mary: "Likewise, had I known that Chance would get three votes this episode, I would have considered voting Jenny, but I did not feel that anyone in the Senate would vote for her so I did not see enoguh reward in risking not nominating Chance."