Hey there, everyone. Since I've suspected Rondak for a long time now, I feel like it's about time I post my stuff on him. I've said before that he feigns ignorance to basic game mechanics and logical sequencing, and that's why I suspect him. Let's start with that.
This is just a cute little set of quotes of Rondak expressing his true feelings towards situations.
[21:11] spies8rondak: I am confused.
[21:46] spies8rondak: I am as confused as a half-elf bisexual.
[22:24] spies8rondak: Many apologies, good sir, but I am as dumbfounded as you on that question.
[21:51] spies8rondak: I need to find a potion of comprehension.
[20:51] spies8rondak: I am [here], although I do not know what is going on.Then, when being questioned by Mary about the first Exile, he seems slow and hesitant.
[16:42] spies8mary: Who seemed to be the biggest follower on that wagon?
[16:42] spies8rondak: Probably myself.
[16:43] spies8rondak: I did not do much to help the case out, admittedly. I brought to light a curious incident between Alexei and I that rang as suspicious, but nobody really thought it was that incriminating. [16:50] spies8mary: It looks like two votes could have changed the result. Only one if Alexei had switched.
[16:50] spies8rondak: *nods*[16:50] spies8mary: Did you draw any conclusions from that vote?
[16:51] spies8rondak: That Alexei was a Spy, of course. Other then that, nothing too grand.[16:52] spies8mary: I would consider that it might tell something about Allan and Stephanie.[16:52] spies8rondak: How so?[16:52] spies8mary: If they were Spies, what could they have done to change the result?
[16:53] spies8rondak: Voted Zedekiah?[16:53] spies8mary: Yes. Unless he's a spy, and then it wouldn't matter as much.
[16:53] spies8rondak: *nods*
[16:54] spies8rondak: Jenny believed that he was a Spy, or the most suspicious, up until a little before the last exile.[16:54] spies8mary: Did anyone ever bring that up in their defense?[16:54] spies8rondak: Bring what up?[16:54] spies8mary: That they could have possibly saved Alexei if they wanted to?
[16:55] spies8rondak: No.
[16:55] spies8rondak: Theoretically, anyone could have saved Alexei.Just the fact that Mary had to ask what Allan and Stephanie could've done to change the outcome of the vote is ridiculous enough as it is, coupled with the fact that he responded
with a question. It simply does not sit right with me.
The following quote, I believe, fits in nicely with the section above and below it.
[23:12] spies8rondak: You are talking to me like I'm a child. I can develop complex thoughts.
[23:12] spies8rondak: I'm a elf, after all. I forget, too. I can also formulate arguments and slay dragons. Rondak's contribution to the Alexei case:
[20:21] spies8rondak: I may have something to add to this Alexei case.
[20:21] spies8rondak: If you could hear me out, I'm not sure if his actions with me were suspicious or not, but they struck myself as very odd.[20:21] spies8jenny: Okies.
[20:21] spies8tina: I am listening.
[20:21] spies8hambone: lezz here it homedawg
[20:21] spies8rondak: *nods*
[20:21] spies8rondak: We were discussing the Zed situation a few nights ago.
[20:22] spies8rondak: Am I allowed to copy and paste conversations, sirs and lasses?[20:22] spies8tina: Parts of it. Not the whole thing.
[20:22] spies8rondak: *nods*
[20:23] spies8rondak: Well, at the time, I was not aware of a difference between roles and allegiances.[20:23] spies8jenny: Hold on.
[20:23] spies8jenny: Was this in the public chat?
[20:23] spies8rondak: Since Zed's story said that he did not talk individually after roles were given out, I was assuming he meant alignments.
[20:23] spies8rondak: No, lass, it was a conversation between Alexei and I.[20:23] spies8jenny: If it was a private one, we're only supposed to do a few lines from a private chat.
[20:23] spies8rondak: *nods* I'll do my best to summarize and then post a few lines.[20:24] spies8jenny: Lemme grab something fast.
[20:24] spies8rondak: I'll be patient, lass.
[20:24] spies8jenny:
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?bo....splay&thread=72[20:24] spies8rondak: 4-8 lines of chat sounds reasonable, then.
[20:25] spies8rondak: Alexei, then, told me this.
[20:25] spies8rondak: spies8alexei (5:33:08 PM):I don't even know if I was on when the roles were given out. spies8rondak (5:33:47 PM):I'm certain I was. Everyone announced that they received their roles in the chat. spies8alexei (5:34:11 PM):ah spies8alexei (5:34:24 PM):I was there for allegiances, but I don't think for roles
[20:25] spies8rondak: Then, he appeard to backtrack. I asked him if roles and allegiances were the same.
[20:26] spies8rondak: spies8alexei (5:34:52 PM):not necessarily spies8alexei (5:35:02 PM):not in the mafias I usually play, anyway spies8alexei (5:35:12 PM):they might be in this, I'm not sure\ spies8rondak (5:35:41 PM):Well, roles must exist if Jenny's story is correct, right?
[20:26] spies8rondak: It is not much.
[20:26] spies8rondak: But it seemed rather odd to me, how he would backtrack the lack of roles after telling me there was a distinct difference.
[20:26] spies8rondak: *shrugs*
[20:27] spies8rondak: Well, I tried. *chuckles*[20:28] spies8tina: So.
[20:28] spies8jenny: I think I might be able to figure out an explanation there.
[20:28] spies8tina: Because he got confused between alignment and role?
I think Tina's comments at the end sum this lame argument up. I'd argue that this is an example of an attempt to bus, something Rondak should understand completely after asking about it multiple times.
This next segment... I don't know what to say. It just seems
so preplanned.
[21:26] spies8rondak: Would anyone care to backtrack with me and discuss some early parts of the game?[21:27] spies8jenny: Sure, anything in mind?
[21:27] spies8rondak: I'm attempting to get caught up with my confessional and I realized there were a few questions I am curious about.
[21:27] spies8rondak: First, the reasons behind the Gabriel imprisonment.
[21:27] spies8rondak: From just a perfunctory glance over the chat logs with Gabriel, and general chat logs, Gabriel really was focused on Savannah.
[21:28] spies8rondak: Does anyone know if he had any other major suspicions?[21:28] spies8jenny: Savanny was his big one really.
[21:28] spies8rondak: *nods*
[21:29] spies8rondak: So, the motives behind the imprisonment could be that Gabriel was a capable citizen, and since his only suspicion was a citizen, his imprisonment would prevent us from gaining any real leads?[21:29] spies8cory: Hard to know for sure
[21:30] spies8cory: But probably something like that.
[21:30] spies8rondak: *nods*I suspect this is a point that will be dismissed as due to his personal issues. However, this particular example occurred before said issues. Rondak, at the oddest of times, is very aggressive. The following is from the group challenge where the Democrats were attempting to draw a unicorn.
[21:21] spies8rondak: I am here.[21:21] spies8jenny: Rondie, help us with piece 5!
[21:21] spies8rondak: Odd that you did not need my help before.
[21:21] spies8rondak: But, alright.[21:22] spies8jenny: Ni-Ni vanished
[21:22] spies8cory: Nita was working on it
[21:22] spies8cory: But she vanished
[21:22] spies8rondak: I was here before NIta.[21:22] spies8cory: #3 and #6 will be simple
[21:22] spies8jenny: Just hurry![21:22] spies8rondak: And I asked to help. Twice.I won't go so far as to say this was an attempt to throw the challenge, but it's certainly striking behavior either way.
One of the Burg's favorite topics right now is the concept of OMGUS. The following takes place some time after I had publicly announced my suspicions of Rondak.
[14:01] spies8mary: Which Democrats have you found suspect?
[14:01] spies8rondak: And I wasn't really active that much on the Democrats.
[14:01] spies8rondak: Because of work happenings.
[14:01] spies8rondak: Mmm, I have a gut read on Gertrude, but other than that, I don't have much.[14:02] spies8mary: Gut read of?
[14:02] spies8rondak: Spy.[14:02] spies8mary: Why do you think that?
[14:02] spies8jenny: Maggie seemed weird to have been around for 2 weeks now, and still hadn't done much of anything at all.
Claude has made a few odd remarks as well that made me question him a bit.
[14:02] spies8rondak: Both of the Exiles on the Democrats voted Gertrude *chuckles*.
[14:03] spies8rondak: It's gut, mind you. That's about it. Then, about 40 minutes later, her completely neglects to include me in his list of suspects.
[14:44] spies8stephanie: who are your suspects rondak?
[14:44] spies8rondak: Jenny, Zedekiah, you, and somewhat Tina.
[14:45] spies8rondak: In order of suspicion. The next thing quote is the chat where Rondak explains why he was/is suspicious of Zedekiah to Cinnamyn, and she dismantles it.
[16:07] spies8jenny: We're talking about Zeddy again.
[16:07] spies8rondak: Hot topic.[16:08] spies8cinnamyn: im tryin 2 undastand da case
[16:08] spies8rondak: And...?[16:08] spies8cinnamyn: but it seemz 2 rely on zedekiah gen'rally bein' awkward da furst round
[16:08] spies8rondak: And that he was.[16:09] spies8cinnamyn: so he sed "hq", didnt talk 4 2 hours after rolez went out, and..
[16:10] spies8cinnamyn: n e thing else.?
[16:10] spies8rondak: Of course, his voting for Allan is odd.[16:10] spies8cinnamyn: in wut way
[16:10] spies8rondak: In that he didn't vote Alexei.[16:11] spies8cinnamyn: iz erry1 dat didnt vote alexei suspishis.?
[16:11] spies8rondak: Are you really asking me that question?
[16:12] spies8rondak: I am working on the supposition that Zedekiah was already suspicious before not voting Alexei.[16:12] spies8cinnamyn: well y iz zedekiah more suspishis 4 not votin' alexei den..tina.?
[16:12] spies8rondak: Yes, because what he did before.[16:12] spies8cinnamyn: wut did he do b4.?
[16:12] spies8rondak: We just went over that.[16:13] spies8cinnamyn: so sayin' da wurds "hq" and bein' gone 2 hours make him suspishis cuz he didnt vote alexei.?
[16:13] spies8cinnamyn: not seein a connecshin boo
[16:13] spies8rondak: ...
[16:13] spies8rondak: This is rather frustrating.[16:27] spies8cinnamyn: how doez dat make zed suspishis.?
[16:27] spies8rondak: Because his behavior drastically changed from E1 to E2?
[16:27] spies8rondak: And he was stuck on Themba for two straight rounds?[16:28] spies8cinnamyn: well wud u rather sum1 b stuck on sum1, lyke zed on themba, or let off, lyke jenny on zed
[16:28] spies8cinnamyn: u cant have both
[16:28] spies8rondak: Well, we know that Themba was a citizen now.[16:28] spies8cinnamyn: i voted 4 margot twice
[16:28] spies8cinnamyn: she wuz a citizen
[16:29] spies8cinnamyn: if sum1 called u out on ur behavior round 1, wud u not change round 2.?
[16:29] spies8rondak: Sure.
[16:29] spies8rondak: I would.[16:29] spies8cinnamyn: so how doez dat make sum1 a spy, in dis case zed
[16:29] spies8rondak: I don't know.[16:30] spies8cinnamyn: well itz wut u jus' sed
[16:30] spies8rondak: I was wrong, then. I don't fucking know.[16:30] spies8cinnamyn: well, then
[16:31] spies8rondak: I'm just trying to make a case against someone. Sorry for being a massive failure.I'm breaking it here for a second to point out that Rondak plays the victim.
[16:31] spies8cinnamyn: im jus' tryin 2 make shure itz valid, i dont want errybody 2 go n' exile sumbody i dont think da case iz substanshal 4
[16:32] spies8rondak: Thank god you were here, then.[16:32] spies8cinnamyn: u aint gotta b snippy, im jus' tryin 2 exile da spiez
[16:32] spies8cinnamyn: ur argument sux, so i called u out
[16:32] spies8cinnamyn: live n' learn
[16:32] spies8rondak: You were the one who just said you wanted more talk about other suspects.
[16:33] spies8rondak: It wasn't just my argument, honey.[16:33] spies8cinnamyn: well ur da 1 dat sed it, lmbo
[16:33] spies8rondak: Read the group chat.
[16:33] spies8rondak: Maybe I'm not the best at reiterating it.[16:33] spies8cinnamyn: so iz its jennys argument.?
[16:34] spies8rondak: No, I claim some of it as my own, as I just said.[16:34] spies8cinnamyn: well ur part of da argument sux, n' u cant back it up
[16:34] spies8rondak: Alright.
[16:34] spies8rondak: Fair enough.[16:35] spies8cinnamyn: i appreshiate da effort do'.!
[16:35] spies8rondak: Yeah, whatever.Cinnamyn essentially rips his argument to shreds before he decides that it's not just his argument. When under fire, he deflected and played the victim, then shut down. Not exactly indicative of Citizen behavior.
Also, this is a possible connection between Cinnamyn and Rondak for future reference. I got a little feeling that this argument may have been staged.
Rondak is talking about Dane.
[13:15] spies8rondak: He just asked me about my suspicions and left in the middle of it.[13:16] spies8mary: I was going to ask you the same thing.
[13:16] spies8mary: Do you mind answering?
[13:16] spies8rondak: I don't mind.
[13:16] spies8rondak: Dane said that some of my suspicions sucked.
[13:16] spies8rondak: But, I'll answer them.
[13:16] spies8rondak: My top four now are: Jenny, Stephanie, Zedekiah, and possibly Tina.[13:16] spies8mary: Did he say they were Spyish or that they sucked?
[13:17] spies8rondak: They sucked.But then, later, confronted by Dane...
[23:01] spies8rondak: *chuckles*
[23:01] spies8rondak: You never said my reasons sucked.
[23:01] spies8rondak: That was the impression that you gave off to me.[23:06] spies8dane: [13:20] spies8rondak: We only discussed Jenny.
[23:06] spies8dane: not true
[23:06] spies8dane: we discussed teeny as well
[23:06] spies8rondak: Our topic of discussion was mainly Jenny.
[23:06] spies8rondak: Okay, whatever, you're right.[23:07] spies8dane: just saying, you pretty well misrepresented our talk
[23:07] spies8dane: f.n.a.r
[23:07] spies8rondak: I do not think I did.[23:07] spies8rondak: FNAR?[23:07] spies8dane: for no apparent reason
[23:07] spies8rondak: I do not think I misrepresented it.
[23:07] spies8rondak: If you think I did, I'm glad to go over it.
[23:07] spies8rondak: To everyone again.[23:07] spies8dane: you summarized our discussion to the group by saying "dane said my reasons sucked"
[23:08] spies8rondak: Alright.
[23:08] spies8rondak: I fucked up. Caught in a blatant lie.
My final point, I feel, is one of the strongest. Rondak is apparently a new player, and has said before that reading about past seasons is "extra credit" rather than homework. So, why would he know this?
[20:57] spies8lilith: What made you think that Spies would come up with a strategy to not talk via AIM?
[20:58] spies8rondak: Because they have their own HQ board, and to avoid slips.
[20:58] spies8rondak: Why do you ask?I, for one, wasn't aware that Spies had their own board separate from the Spies8 forum until yesterday. I thought they had their own subforum or whatever, but Rondak is acutely aware that there is an entirely different site where Spies hang out.
For all of these reasons, in addition to the ones posted above, I strongly believe that
Rondak is a Spy. He will be getting my vote.
Thanks for reading!